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>What I don't understand is that the photo's looks so good at first and afterwards
Initially, Bridge is using the embedded JPEG in the raw file to show you the thumbnail, then ACR builds a thumbnail from the raw file itself.
You want to turn off "Apply Auto Tone Adjustments" in the ACR preferences dialog box (Bridge menu).
Hi Ramón !
Sorry to say, the "Apply Auto Tone Adjustment" wasn't turned on in my ACR 4.2.... problem somwhere else.
Perhaps you need to "convert to" sRGB before you save your JPEG images. Be sure to use the Convert option, it is under the Edit menu in Photoshop.
>photo's looks so good at first and afterwards a lot less color.
What / where is 'first' and what / where is 'afterwards'?
It would be helpful if you could explain:
> "looks so good at first"
"Looks so good" where? In the Elements browser?
"At first" meaning before doing what?
> "afterwards a lot less color"
"Afterwords" means after what exactly?
What are you using to view the image "afterwards"?
Looks so good at first.../ The RAW-photo as it looks in the ACR after all the adjustments have been done.
Afterwards a lot less color.../ When you turn that good looking RAW-photo into a JPEG-photo and look at it on your computer screen. It looks like that photo has been overexposed with +1,0 EV (or something like that)....
What program(s) are you viewing the JPG with on your screen?
What color space are the JPG files in? Pro Photo? Adobe RGB? sRGB? Something else?
Viewing program : That "original" in XP
Color Space : sRGB
Make sure that your color management is consistent throughout the process.
The first potential colorspace mis-match could occur between ACR and Elements. Make sure the colorspace that ACR is producing (sRGB, ProPhoto, etc.) matches the working colorspace default being used by Elements.
The second could occur when you are creating the Jpeg. I use Photoshop - not Elements - so I am not sure of the exact settings but you need to make sure the image is being converted correctly to sRGB either before or as part of the Jpeg creation process. If Elements gives you the option of "assigning" or "converting" to the target colorspace (in this case sRGB), make sure you use "convert" - not "assign".
If checking all of the above doesn't turn anything up, then most likely you are seeing a difference between how a color-managed and non-color-managed application are displaying the image. If the Jpeg looks OK inside Elements but doesn't when viewed with Windows Picture and Fax Viewer or Internet Explorer then this may be the case. There is not much you can do about it other than to try to re-calibrate your monitor and selecting "native" white point and gamma for the calibration. That may help but no guarantees.
Almost certainly, you have your color space defined as something else than sRGB in Camera Raw. sRGB is the most used color space, and what non-color-managed applications expect. If your image is Adobe RGB or something else, it will look washed out in non-color-managed environments, such as the image viewer in windows(?). Look at the photo in Photoshop (elements), and it should be alright.
How do I do to know what color space I have in ACR ?
I have tryed to find out what color space I have, but just can't find any place where to check it ?????
And... I want to use the Windows Picture & Fax Viewer to veiw and show my friends my pictures
Look at the bottom of the ACR window. It looks like a link and it opens a dialog.
I just wonder if my Elements 6 is not fully installed on my computer ? I have the swedish version and when i open my ACR there are only 6 different places that I can click on at the bottom.....(translated names from swedish to english)
On the left side/ Help (doesn't work), Save Picture and 8/16 bit Channel
On the right side/ Finished, Exit and Open Picture.....
Sorry, but there just isn't this "thing" that looks like a link.
I opened this "Save Picture" and there was a few things one could adjust but not check out the color space......
I think everything is completely installed. I also think that what John overlooked is that you are using Photoshop Elements. I didn't look back through the thread so I don't know if it was overlooked or if it simply was not clarified. Although Photoshop and Photoshop Elements both use the same ACR plug-in, many of the features in ACR are unavailable in Photoshop Elements. That's just the way the program is designed. I haven't used ACR in Elements, but that is probably why you don't have that hyperlink available. In ACR running under Photoshop/Bridge it is located directly beneath the editing window.
So where would he define his output color space? Anyone?
A good question to ask in the Elements forum, maybe?
It seems that I have solved the problem...I think.
The whole thing is as many have said in this forum....adjust to sRGB.
I just right-clicked on the computer screen... There I clicked on "Properties" (I think that is the correct english word)...and there in some submenu I clicked on "Colormatch" (for the screen). There I saw that there was only the "original" screen colorspace for my Dell screen. So, I add the sRGB and it seems that the problem is solved.....
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