8 Replies Latest reply on May 26, 2008 11:00 AM by (Ed_Grenzig)

    Is CS3 better for working with RAW images than Elements 6?

      Hi all,

      I am trying to find out if it is worth buying CS3 in stead of elements 6. Surprisingly, nobody has been able to tell me what the difference exactly is.
      The best I got so far was that elements is a trimmed down version of CS3 but what more can I do with CS3?
      As I am in England, CS3 would cost me about $1100, as opposed to $650 in the US, which is a bit much if you don’t know exactly what you get for that amount.
      It says something on the adobe features section about BETTER raw processing, but not compared to what. Old version? Other software? Better than nothing?

      I will be running it under XP, and the only use will be to optimise images from a digital camera in RAW format, 90%, and a jpeg (10)%, partially for web use, partially for prints.
      The most common things are:
      Correcting exposure when pics are unevenly lit.
      Correcting color temperature.
      Removing unwanted parts of a picture e.g. somebody stepping into the picture, advertising signs or copyrighted material.
      Altering color of small parts of an image like that of a single flower in a bouquet.
      Removing blemishes in portraits.

      The photos will always stay single photos, I can not foresee any use for slide shows, animations, video or anything related.

      From what I have been able to find out so far, it seems that Elements 6 will do all this and I don’t need to spend the extra $1000, or should I?
        • 1. Re: Is CS3 better for working with RAW images than Elements 6?
          JimHess-8IPblY Level 3
          I have not used Photoshop Elements since version 2.0. In that version it was very similar to Photoshop as far as how the interface was designed. There were a few key elements that were missing such as the Curve adjustment. It is my understanding that there is a free download available from a third party source that will provide that capability.

          As far as Camera Raw is concerned, you only have the adjustments that are on the basic panel and the details panel. That means you don't have all of the hue/saturation/luminance adjustments, or lens correction, or the capability to create presets, or to calibrate ACR specifically for your camera. As I understand it, it is not possible to load multiple images into ACR so that you can apply changes to all of them at once. And I don't believe you have the option of working in ACR in 16-bit mode.

          With Photoshop Elements it is not possible to record actions to enable you to do batch processing of your images. What you have is a good quality basic single image photo editor.

          I cannot tell you which to purchase. I don't know what you are accustomed to, nor do I fully understand your expectations. There are trial versions of both programs that you can download and try for 30 days to see what you think. They are fully functioning programs for that trial period, which should be ample time for you to determine which program will give you the most value.
          • 2. Re: Is CS3 better for working with RAW images than Elements 6?
            Based on what your needs are, I would go w/ Elements and save your $$. I use both V6 & CS3, and will go eventually to Lightroom but thats another story. Elements is a surprsingly good low cost photo editor in my opinon. It has the latest Ver. Camera Raw which is where you'll do all your global processing. And remember w/ PS your paying for all that graphics dev capability that most photog's dont use... One really great feature you will not get w/ Elements is Curves adj., however, you have Levels and for local adj -- dodge & burn i.e. , just use a mask w/ levels -- and that works great ...
            SteveB
            • 3. Re: Is CS3 better for working with RAW images than Elements 6?
              Ramón G Castañeda Level 4
              ACR is substantially crippled in Elements, even though it's the same plug-in used by CS3.
              • 4. Re: Is CS3 better for working with RAW images than Elements 6?
                Substantially crippled is precisely the type of vague response the OP was
                aimed at clarifying.
                • 5. Re: Is CS3 better for working with RAW images than Elements 6?
                  annick vanderschelden
                  Hello,
                  I think this is a good question.
                  I think the best solution is to download the free trial version and just compare the two editors. Doing so you can apply it for your specific needs.
                  I'm also saying this 'cause I'm convinced most people use only one editor and aren't able to compare these two versions.
                  Furthermore I used to work with elements or a lite version whatever..
                  and I must say I never regretted having bought the full version.
                  I agree it is a lot of money.
                  Regards,
                  • 6. Re: Is CS3 better for working with RAW images than Elements 6?
                    athegn Level 2
                    I use Elements 3 with "The Hidden Power of Elements" which adds many "tools" that CS* has. Not the perfect answer but much cheaper:-

                    http://www.hiddenelements.com/index.html

                    Note there is not a Hidden Power for PSE 6, yet.

                    Do download a trial of PSE 6 before purchase and see if you can get on with the interface; some monitors struggle with dark grey on dark grey!

                    Also note that there are more threads like these in the Elements forum:-

                    http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b4c39d/18
                    http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b55c56/1
                    http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b53a81/3
                    • 7. Re: Is CS3 better for working with RAW images than Elements 6?
                      athegn Level 2
                      ACR 4.4.1 in PSE 6

                      Tools: Zoom, Hand, White Balance eye dropper, crop, straighten, Red eye remove, Camera RAW preferences, Rotate and Preview

                      Three channel Histogram with shadow and highlight clipping warning toggles.

                      RGB values under cursor and basic file info: F no., Shutter speed, ISO and Lens info. e.g. 24-85@85 mm

                      Drop down menu:-

                      Image Settings
                      Camera RAW defaults
                      Previous conversion
                      Custom settings
                      Clear Imported settings
                      Save new camera RAW defaults
                      Reset camera RAW defaults

                      Basic tab:-

                      White Balance: Temperature and Tint plus drop down menu:-
                      As Shot
                      Auto
                      Daylight
                      Cloudy
                      Shade
                      Tungsten
                      Fluorescent
                      Flash
                      Custom

                      Other sliders/input boxes:-

                      Exposure
                      Recovery
                      Fill Light
                      Blacks
                      Brightness
                      Contrast
                      Clarity
                      Vibrance
                      Saturation

                      Detail Tab sliders/input boxes:-

                      Sharpening: Amount, Radius, Detail, Masking

                      Noise reduction: Luminance, Color

                      Choice of 8 or 16 bits output.
                      • 8. Re: Is CS3 better for working with RAW images than Elements 6?
                        Level 1
                        Differences between PSCS3 and PSE6

                        http://thephotofinishes.com/adpsel6b.htm

                        http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/photoshop/f/elementscompare.htm

                        Ed