6 Replies Latest reply: Mar 4, 2009 9:17 AM by Seanb_us RSS

    Solved: Technical Communication Suite 2 Installer Crashes

    Seanb_us Community Member
      I was repeatedly getting a crash installing Tech Comm Suite 2 in Windows XP from installation files I downloaded to my hard drive. The crash happened in the preinstallation phase, right at the beginning even before a serial number was requested.

      The Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 Installer would freeze then crash with a message, "Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 Installer has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience."

      I had the correct specs and resources for the installation and had turned off all the stuff I could think of. FM8 and CS3, including Acrobat 8 Pro, were installed but not running.

      I found a workaround to this problem in the Adobe Knowledgebase and it works under light testing. Though, FM 9 is not outputting fonts correctly using Acrobat 9 (though Word and FM8 do not have this issue), but all seems functional.

      I'm a little nervous because it does not look like the TCS 2 installer did a complete removal of Acrobat 8 when it installed Acrobat 9, but I have not yet run into a gotcha.

      Here's what I found that worked to get TCS 2 installed:

      1) Access the KB search http://www.adobe.com/support.

      2) Search for "Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 Installer" in the product "Technical Communication Suite" and select the "Product Support" checkbox.

      3) Many results are for Vista--so Vista users presumably could run into this, too. Look for "Troubleshooting system errors and freezes (Technical Communication Suite 2 on Windows Vista) (kb408338)."

      4) Pay attention and try step 4.: "4. Run Technical Communication Suite 2 while no other applications are running" as follows

      [quote the Adobe KB article]

      To disable startup items and non Microsoft services:

      1. Quit all applications.
      2. Choose Start, type msconfig in the Search text box, and press Enter.
      3. Write down all unselected items under the Startup and Services tabs.
      4. Click the General tab, and choose Selective Startup.
      5. Click the Startup tab and select Disable All.
      6. Select any startup items that are essential for testing the problem. If you are unsure whether an item is essential, leave it deselected (disabled).
      7. Click the Services tab, and check Hide All Microsoft Services.
      8. Select Disable All then re-select any services that are essential for testing the problem. If you are unsure whether an item is essential, leave it deselected (disabled).
      9. Click Apply, and restart Windows for the changes to take effect.

      Note: Upon restart, you'll be notified that the System Configuration utility has made changes to the way that Windows starts up. Click OK. When the System Configuration utility appears click Cancel.

      10. Right-click icons in the Notification Area and close or disable any startup items that are still active.

      Then, try to re-create the problem:

      * If the problem no longer occurs, one of the startup items is the cause of the problem.
      * If the problem recurs, startup items are not the cause of the problem and you can re-enable them:
      1. Choose Start, type msconfig in the Search text box, and press Enter.
      2. Click the General tab, and choose Normal Startup.
      3. Deselect any items that you wrote down in Step 3 of the previous section.
      4. Click Apply, and restart Windows for the changes to take effect.
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        • 1. Re: Solved: Technical Communication Suite 2 Installer Crashes
          Arnis Gubins CommunityMVP
          Sean,

          You're quite correct in your assumption that the installer doesn't do
          a good job of cleaning out references to older versions of Acrobat
          from the Registry, especially if it wasn't installed in the default
          location on drive C:\Program Files.

          I had to manually go through the Registry and hunt down every Acrobat
          8 reference and deal with it. However, once it was cleaned out, things
          ran smoothly. Now, if they could just fix the Save As PDF for once and
          all... ;-)

          You might also want to run the CS4Clean script to scrub things down
          before doing an install. See:
          http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/cs4clean.html
          • 2. Re: Solved: Technical Communication Suite 2 Installer Crashes
            Seanb_us Community Member
            Thanks. I can't clean up CS3 though, as I still need and use Illustrator CS3, Dreamweaver CS3, and InDesign CS3. <g><br /><br />I'm not messing with the Acrobat 8 remnants unless I run into a gotcha. It took close to 3 hours to install TCS 2.0 and I don't want to waste that time again <g>.<br /><br />Any thoughts on my font issue?<br /><br />From FM 8, using Acrobat 9, all is well.<br />From Word 2002, using Acrobat 9, all is well.<br />From FM 9, using Acrobat 9 (same files as I test for FM8), ArialMTStd-Black.otf displays okay in FM but becomes TNR in the PDF. The font is installed correctly in Windows.<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />Sean
            • 3. Re: Solved: Technical Communication Suite 2 Installer Crashes
              Art Campbell Community Member
              Sean,

              You should start another thread on the font / PDF issues because they're probably not related to the Install thread.

              When you do, be sure to include details about your default system printer and the process you use to produce the PDFs.

              Cheers,
              Art
              • 4. Re: Solved: Technical Communication Suite 2 Installer Crashes
                Seanb_us Community Member
                Thanks Art. I found a thread that sounds like my trouble and posted there: http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b81870/4. I'd appreciate any advice you have to offer.

                Cheers,

                Sean
                • 5. Re: Solved: Technical Communication Suite 2 Installer Crashes
                  Arnis Gubins CommunityMVP
                  Read the options carefully - it doesn't mess with the CS3 components.
                  Quote: "The Adobe CS4 Clean Script is designed to not interfere with
                  existing Creative Suite 3 products, but it allows you to specify if
                  you wish to remove them as well."

                  For the font issue:

                  Check the settings in the Adobe PDF printer instance:

                  Printing Preferences > Paper/Quality > Advanced... button - should
                  have Download as Soft Font for the TrueType option enabled

                  Printing Preferences > Adobe PDF Settings

                  Do NOT have the "Rely on system font only; do NOT use document fonts"
                  option enabled!


                  Properties > General tab > Substitution table - except for Symbol and
                  Courier, there should be no substitutions allowed.

                  Also, check your Distiller options to see if the font location is
                  correctly specified and if the Fonts section of the joboptions in use
                  does not have a "Never Embed" setting for some of the fonts.
                  • 6. Re: Solved: Technical Communication Suite 2 Installer Crashes
                    Seanb_us Community Member
                    Thanks Arnis. I had neglected those settings. However, setting them didn't change the result.

                    Note, the font in question is not listed in the Font Substitution table in Properties > Device Settings > Font Substitution table. Though, the font is installed in C:\Windows\Fonts, which the joboptions recognize as the folder for fonts.

                    Cheers,

                    Sean