8 Replies Latest reply: Nov 7, 2008 5:11 PM by Maryann8 RSS

    <ol></ol> Used to wrap numbered lists

    grammatophile Community Member
      I have tried to format non-numbered items in FrameMaker. They look fine in Frame but when I import to RH they become completely skewed. The html files generated by RH envelope these non-numbered list items, along with the items of the numbered list, in an <ol></ol> tag. RH treats all the text inside a series of numbered list items as part of that <ol>, even when those items are not numbered themselves.

      RH retains the original (FrameMaker) formatting as long as the non-numbered items do not fall within a numbered series.

      Can anyone suggest a fix for this?

      I am especially interested in fixes that do not involve having to go into the html itself. I'd like something that would allow me to do the integration and mapping of styles from Frame to RH.
        • 1. Re: &lt;ol&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; Used to wrap numbered lists
          davewilks
          I don't know if this helps or not, but when you define the styles in RoboHelp (like your StepIndent), do not add any indentation to the style. Just by being within the list, it is already indented.
          • 2. Re: &lt;ol&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; Used to wrap numbered lists
            grammatophile Community Member
            Dave, That would work, but then it defeats the most of the purpose of Frame/RH integration. Also, I do have some places where the StepIndent works as formatted in Frame.

            Thanks for the suggestion, which I'll use in places.
            • 3. Re: &lt;ol&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; Used to wrap numbered lists
              grammatophile Community Member
              I've found that one of the only ways to fix this problem permanently is to move the closing css code </ol> to the end of the numbered list, thereby enveloping all the indented paragraphs. This is done with the topic displayed in html mode.

              When (if) you do this, be sure to click the save changes to html in the style sheet of the topic(s).

              As pointed out by Jain Vivek on another, related, topic at the forum::

              "Right click the FrameMaker document in RoboHelp project manager -> Select Properties -> navigate to tab File Update Settings. Please check if you have selected the HTML file in RoboHelp for "Preserve Modifications for these files"."

              What Jain's instructions don't say is that the Properties are for the specific topic. This is found under the StyleSheets in the Project Manager Pod.

              Click + to reveal the subtopics. (Don't right-click the style sheet.)
              Right-click the chapter/subtopic name. The list of RH topics appears.
              That's where you can take off with Jain's steps.


              This lets you update all topics without having the changes overridden by the update.
              • 4. Re: &lt;ol&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; Used to wrap numbered lists
                Maryann8 Community Member
                As you mentioned, editing your HTML files breaks your single source flow.

                Because of similar problems, including losing all my autotext, I stopped checking Convert AutoNumber to HTML List.
                That feature didn't gain anything for me anyway.

                In the final output, if the list looks like a list, it's a list.
                • 5. Re: &lt;ol&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; Used to wrap numbered lists
                  grammatophile Community Member
                  Maryann. I was able to get the formatting really close to what i need in the output. there were just these small glitches. I found that using the Convert AutoNumber to HTML Lis actually helped me. The thing is, you have to embrace its way of dealing with the control. It wants to format bullets and number sits way... If you let it do that and then finesses your way around it, you get pretty decent results.
                  • 6. &lt;ol&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; Used to wrap numbered lists
                    Maryann8 Community Member
                    grammatophile, how does Convert AutoNumber to HTML List help you?
                    It must be something, since so many people seem to be trying so hard to make it work (including me!)

                    I finally gave up (since the AutoNumber text from FM was so important in our applications), and then wondered why I had tried so hard to use the function in the first place. I designed my own css styles that look just fine, and map my FM list para styles to them.
                    • 7. Re: &lt;ol&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; Used to wrap numbered lists
                      grammatophile Community Member
                      Maryann, I use it to format the text so that when you resize the Help window, the numbered and bulleted text wraps correctly indented. When I removed the autonumber feature, this text was wrapping so that it lined up with the number itself in the left margin . Now, I get it to line up indented--as most numbered text does (except in the FM User Guide, strangely enough).

                      g
                      • 8. Re: &lt;ol&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; Used to wrap numbered lists
                        Maryann8 Community Member
                        "When I removed the autonumber feature, this text was wrapping so that it lined up with the number itself in the left margin ."

                        Hmm, I've removed the autonumber feature, and my the text in my steps still indents correctly when the help window is made really small...
                        It must be something in how your css is defined for your steps.