24 Replies Latest reply on Aug 7, 2017 4:24 PM by stebby

    I want to add a page to a form

    Level 1
      I am very very new to using Live Cycle. In fact, I stumbled upon it when we upgraded to Acrobat 8. I just finished using Live Cycle to design our company's new hire forms package. This consists of 12 pages of forms - and the HR manager insists it has to be one file. My question is, if I need to make edits to one of the forms, I can't seem to delete the page and insert a new one.

      Is this not possible once it's made into a multiple page form?

      I'm using LiveCycle Designer 8.0
      Acrobat 8.0
      Windows XP Pro
      Dell Precision laptop
      HP Laserjet 4250 printer
        • 1. Re: I want to add a page to a form
          Level 1
          In Designer, firstly go to Window and ensure you have Hierarchy selected. In this view pane you should be able to insert and delete pages during the design phase.
          • 2. Re: I want to add a page to a form
            Level 1
            Well I guess I started the whole form wrong, then. I don't have a master page. I have been reading more about LiveCycle, and it seems I have no clue what I'm doing.

            What I did was take a Word document with no form fields. Saved it as a PDF. Opened Acrobat 8 and clicked Forms, Create Form. Followed the wizard and had it auto detect the fields.

            Now I have this real pretty looking form with all these great fields, and it works great. Except, that if someone modifies one page in the multiple-page form, I have to re-PDF it and re-do all the fields again for the whole document because I cannot insert/delete a page.

            I see Hierarcy under Window in LiveCycle. But, when I click on a page in the Hierarchy pane, I don't see an insert page option, just an insert page set, and that is greyed out.

            When I click on the Insert menu, I see Insert Page, but it's greyed out.

            Can someone point me in the direction of brand new, almost totally LiveCycle-illiterate, references so I can figure out what I am doing. I thought it was so cool to auto detect fields and it looks great, but I can't work with it if I have to redo the form whenever someone changes a page.

            Gulp. Help?
            • 3. Re: I want to add a page to a form
              Level 1
              "Creating Dynamic Forms with Adobe LiveCycle Designer" by JP Terry is the only book I know of that is devoted to LC. It's pretty accessible and is as good a place to start as any. Beyond that; trial and error, this forum, and the links to other websites are the way to go. Don't forget there are some sample forms that you will find in your Adobe folder on your C:drive.
              Good luck.
              • 4. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                On the same topic, I have a pdf file with one form on the last page but my client needs to be able to insert pages in acrobat on their own after the form is made. They don't have access to LiveCycle...but the insert page option in acrobat is greyed out...is there any way in acrobat around this? Or a setting I can make in LiveCycle?
                • 5. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                  I am experiencing the exact same situation. Did anyone ever come up with a solution for Melanie?
                  • 6. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                    gkaiseril MVP & Adobe Community Professional
                    You can make your forms in Acrobat. LiveCycle Desinger is an XML form within a PDF wrapper and many features of Acrobat are lost. This is also why there are differences with LiveCycle Designer's JavaScript and Acrobat JavaScript.
                    • 7. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                      G0V.

                      Wonderful.

                      Just another shortcoming of those forms and LC designer in general I guess...

                       

                      Unable to add page because followed the steps from the wizard.

                      After two days of work & fine tuning I can just start over because I want to add a page :-\

                      • 8. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                        aitorl

                        The clue when importing a pdf into Adobe Lifecycle in order to generate a new Page, is to drag and drop the pages that Adobe Lifecycle generates under the section Pages into the section named (Master Pages).

                        Then you will be able to add as many pages as you want.

                         

                        Be good!!

                        • 9. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                          KellyC191

                          Here's what I'm going to try.

                           

                          Create the second page as a separate form.

                          Open the original form (page 1).

                          When you're not in Edit Form mode, you can add a page from a file. So, add the 2nd page and it should become a 2-page form.

                           

                          I haven't tried this, but maybe it will work.I can't believe how difficult it is to use this software sometimes. It could be made much more user-friendly.

                          • 10. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                            kennyboy2001

                            I don't know what the official Adobe process is on this but here is what I do...as I have run into the same issue. I'm learning LiveCycle with docs and some level of trial and error.

                            • Go to "New Page" (Menu - Insert >> New Page). 
                            • Go the the Hierachy pane (Menu - Window >> Hierachy). 

                            You will see that LiveCycle has added a new page to the end of your document. Depending on how long your doc is ot the number of elements, you may want to collapse all of your pages in this view by selection the [-] icon next to each page. Find the new page whish has been added at the bottom of the list.Drag and drop it into the your desired insert position in your doc.

                             

                            I have not tried to add an external page; Just tried blank.

                            Hope this helps somewhat.

                             

                            Ken

                            • 11. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                              paulk07 Level 3

                              Try this:

                               

                              Add a footer to your page.  Add two buttons (ADD & DELETE) to the footer.

                               

                              On the click event of the ADD button (javascript):

                               

                              form1.page1._body.addInstance(1);

                               

                              if (form1.page1._body.count > 1) {

                                  form1.page1.footer.deleteBtn.presence = "visible";

                              }

                              else {

                                  form1.page1.footer.deleteBtn.presence = "hidden";

                              }

                               

                               

                              body is the name of my subform on page1. 

                               

                               

                              On the click of the Delete:

                              form1.page1._body.removeInstance(1);

                               

                              if (form1.page1._body.count > 1) {

                                  form1.page1.footer.deleteBtn.presence = "visible";

                              }

                              else {

                                  form1.page1.footer.deleteBtn.presence = "hidden";

                              }

                              • 12. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                MaryseG

                                What worked for me was to:

                                1) Open the form already developped in Adobe Acrobat and extract all pages to a new document. All form fields are still working in the new document

                                2) Once the new document opens up, add a new page and continue developping the form...

                                • 13. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                  Catherine Zidane

                                  This is unbelievable! Isn't someone from Adobe going to comment on this problem?

                                  • 14. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                    Catherine Zidane Level 1

                                    This seems to work:

                                    go to the page below where you want to insert the new page. Show the Hierarchy (Windows >Hierarchy). In the hierarchy, right-click the page you are on and select Duplicate Page. It will rename the page and insert a dupe, eg Page 6[0] and Page 6[1]. You can then change the content on one of the pages. That's as far as I got so far, I'll have to see if this works or if the forms filling gets completely screwed up.

                                    Mama mia!

                                    • 15. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                      Catherine Zidane Level 1

                                      oops: it's not a right-click, you have to choose Edit > Duplicate when you've selected the page in the hierarchy.

                                      • 16. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                        Shrutiaman

                                        Livecycle Menu > Window > Hierarchy should be ticked > Hierarchy pane on the left > Beneath form 1 should be (untitled Subform) (page 1) > Right-click > New page

                                        • 17. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                          8i010g1x

                                          I have recently run into exactly the same problem.  Catherine's suggestion was spot on.  Windows > Heirarchy > Select the last page > Edit > Duplicate Page.  Then I renamed the page and everything was awesome.  Until... I finished designing the additional page, adding all of my fields and text.  I saved the form and then previewed it in PDF Preview.  However the page I added on was not there.  I went back to the desktop and opened the file in Adobe Reader.  It will only register the 1st 4 pages, and does not register the 5th page, which is the page I added on.  It's there, I can see it in the design view.  But it will not show up in the PDF Preview and will not print when opened with Adobe Reader.  #Stumped.

                                          • 18. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                            TruSake

                                            MaryseG

                                            Solution works 100%

                                            • 19. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                              JennyBecky

                                              Thank you so much  - this worked after so many headaches trying to figure this out!  I was about to have to recreate a 3 page job applicationin word and recreate all the form fields

                                              MaryseG wrote:

                                               

                                              What worked for me was to:

                                              1) Open the form already developped in Adobe Acrobat and extract all pages to a new document. All form fields are still working in the new document

                                              2) Once the new document opens up, add a new page and continue developping the form...

                                              • 20. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                                Catherine Zidane Level 1

                                                Back again, having completely forgotten that I posted on this issue, but once again needing to insert a page in Design View. Still can't get it to work, although I haven't tried MayseG's solution - a last resort for me, I think. So meanwhile ... to repeat ... ISN'T ANYONE AT ADOBE GOING TO COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE?

                                                • 21. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                                  Catherine Zidane Level 1

                                                  I tried the duplicate again and followed through to the point where I was trying to fill in the form. It seems to work for me, and all the inserted pages (within fields in them) show up in Print Preview. Can't think why it didn't work for you,  8i010g1x,  but <sarcasm>perhaps someone from Adobe will look at it </sarcasm>.

                                                  I also tried Shrutiaman's suggestion and that also worked for me (ie do Add PAge to get a new subform then move the subform down to where you want it.

                                                   

                                                  • 22. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                                    lisemainville Level 1

                                                    It works!

                                                     

                                                    Thank you so much!

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                                                    • 23. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                                      visioned

                                                      Hi Lise,

                                                       

                                                      About this issue I want to add a page to a form how did you get this working?

                                                       

                                                      Please let me know.

                                                      Regards,

                                                       

                                                      Ed Boon

                                                      • 24. Re: I want to add a page to a form
                                                        stebby

                                                        Ed,

                                                        I'm no Adobe Guru but the following worked for me.   Basically a modification of Catherine Zidane's method above.  Note that I had an original form I generated in LiveCycle from a PDF.  Then realized I needed to add pages to it and had the same issues noted in this thread.

                                                        1.  First I generated the extra pages I wanted to add in Word, converted to PDF through the Adobe print function, then ran through LiveCycle Designer (version 8) and saved it as an Acrobat 8 static PDF form.  Not sure if any of that matters, but want to put it all out there.

                                                        2.  Opened LiveCycle and clicked whatever that icon at the top right of the page is called that expands the program to fill the entire computer screen.

                                                        3.  Opened my original PDF form in LiveCycle and clicked that icon again so it was a small box in the big screen of LiveCycle

                                                        4.  Opened my extra pages PDF I previously ran through LiveCycle and clicked that icon again.  Point being you want to be able to see the two documents easily.

                                                        5.  Clicked on my original PDF to choose it.  Then clicked on Window and selected Hierarchy

                                                        6.  To make it easier for me to view, I went to the panel on the left and collapsed all the page data in the Hierarchy view by clicking on the "-" in each page box.  Hope that makes sense.  This left me with only a few items showing.

                                                        7.  Clicked on the last page of my form that was visible in the Hierarchy box.  This highlighted it.

                                                        8.  Clicked on Edit and selected duplicate.  A duplicate last page appeared

                                                        9.  Scrolled to that duplicated page in the LiveCycle document and select all the data on that page...but only that page.  I did this by using the ol' draw a box with your mouse so that it includes all the boxes of the page.  This will highlight them.  Note....my original form had page numbers at the bottom right.  I did not highlight this one box so I could use it later.

                                                        10.  Right click within that box you drew and choose delete

                                                        11.  Now you should have your original document with a blank page at the end.  In my case a blank page with a page number text box.

                                                        12.  Repeat steps 7 and 8 to generate as many blank pages as you need to add.  No more deleting needed as you are copying the blank page you made.

                                                        13.  Click on your extra pages document.  Draw the box as in step 9, but include ALL the boxes on that page so they are all selected.

                                                        14.  Go to Edit and select copy

                                                        15.  Click on your original document and then click on the first blank page in that Hierarchy box on the left to highlight it.

                                                        16.  Go to Edit and select paste.

                                                        17.  Voila!  You have just added a useful page to your original document.  Well...sometimes voila.  Worked great for my first page.  The other ones were all off in terms of margins so right after pasting I had to drag it with my mouse while everything was still highlighted to get the top margin and left margin right.

                                                        18.  Change the page numbers in the text boxes to reflect proper page number if applicable.

                                                        19.  Save as Adobe 8 static PDF form

                                                         

                                                        Sorry so long.  But I wanted to capture the process as best as I could.  Hope it works for you.