13 Replies Latest reply on Dec 8, 2008 2:05 PM by howeaver

    Evil Spirits

    howeaver
      I created a text image in Fireworks MX with a transparent background. I then exported it to a folder. When I inserted it into a Dreamweaver CS3 page, I got ghosting or a halo effect around the edges of the text. I have done this before with excellent results, so I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I tried to redo the text image using Adobe Illustrator CS, but got the same bad results.

      Can anybody help me?

      Thanks in advance.

      richardh
        • 1. Re: Evil Spirits
          Level 7
          Url address to the uploaded image?

          guessing- this is a halo effect because the canvas color in Fireworks is
          different than the background of the container you are putting the image
          into in the page.

          rough directions to fix, I don't have the apps open right now

          - Open the source file .PNG in fireworks.
          - Open the page in dreamweaver.
          In fireworks, go to modify->canvas->background color and get the color
          picker open

          then use the color picker to sample the color of the background where the
          image is going.

          Now export the image file from fw and place it into the page. The halo
          effect should be gone.


          --
          Alan
          Adobe Community Expert, dreamweaver

          http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/



          • 2. Re: Evil Spirits
            Level 7
            "howeaver" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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            >I created a text image in Fireworks MX with a transparent background. I
            >then
            > exported it to a folder. When I inserted it into a Dreamweaver CS3 page,
            > I got
            > ghosting or a halo effect around the edges of the text. I have done this
            > before with excellent results, so I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
            > I
            > tried to redo the text image using Adobe Illustrator CS, but got the same
            > bad
            > results.


            You need to set your matte the same colour as the page your placing it on.

            --
            Tim G.
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            • 3. Re: Evil Spirits
              Level 7
              Tim G wrote:
              > "howeaver" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
              > news:ggo0eh$8fo$1@forums.macromedia.com...
              >> I created a text image in Fireworks MX with a transparent background. I
              >> then
              >> exported it to a folder. When I inserted it into a Dreamweaver CS3 page,
              >> I got
              >> ghosting or a halo effect around the edges of the text. I have done this
              >> before with excellent results, so I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
              >> I
              >> tried to redo the text image using Adobe Illustrator CS, but got the same
              >> bad
              >> results.
              >
              >
              > You need to set your matte the same colour as the page your placing it on.

              Or use a PNG instead of a GIF... but IE6 has "issues" with transparent
              PNG which can be overcome with some clever trickery

              Dooza
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              • 4. Re: Evil Spirits
                Level 7
                "Dooza" <doozadooza@gmail.com> wrote in message
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                > Tim G wrote:
                >> You need to set your matte the same colour as the page your placing it
                >> on.
                >
                > Or use a PNG instead of a GIF... but IE6 has "issues" with transparent PNG
                > which can be overcome with some clever trickery


                Even a .png gets much better results if you have your matte set correctly.

                --
                Tim G.
                http://www.pactumweb.com
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                • 5. Re: Evil Spirits
                  Level 7
                  Tim G wrote:
                  > "Dooza" <doozadooza@gmail.com> wrote in message
                  > news:ggoc86$kjn$2@forums.macromedia.com...
                  >> Tim G wrote:
                  >>> You need to set your matte the same colour as the page your placing it
                  >>> on.
                  >> Or use a PNG instead of a GIF... but IE6 has "issues" with transparent PNG
                  >> which can be overcome with some clever trickery
                  >
                  >
                  > Even a .png gets much better results if you have your matte set correctly.

                  I didn't think PNG's suffered from halos at all, I could be wrong
                  (wouldn't be the first time)

                  Dooza
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                  • 6. Re: Evil Spirits
                    Level 7

                    Be smart: http://www.pactumweb.com/client/tips.php
                    "Dooza" <doozadooza@gmail.com> wrote in message
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                    > Tim G wrote:
                    >> "Dooza" <doozadooza@gmail.com> wrote in message
                    >> news:ggoc86$kjn$2@forums.macromedia.com...
                    >>> Tim G wrote:
                    >>>> You need to set your matte the same colour as the page your placing it
                    >>>> on.
                    >>> Or use a PNG instead of a GIF... but IE6 has "issues" with transparent
                    >>> PNG which can be overcome with some clever trickery
                    >>
                    >>
                    >> Even a .png gets much better results if you have your matte set
                    >> correctly.
                    >
                    > I didn't think PNG's suffered from halos at all, I could be wrong
                    > (wouldn't be the first time)

                    I've experienced it at times (quite recently too!), but I honestly don't
                    remember the circumstances. If all else fails, I'd say use a matte.

                    --
                    Tim G.
                    http://www.pactumweb.com
                    http://www.shortordersite.com


                    • 7. Re: Evil Spirits
                      Level 7
                      That's not correct. The 'halo' is a result of the anti-aliasing when you
                      transparentize the background.

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                      "Dooza" <doozadooza@gmail.com> wrote in message
                      news:ggodbs$of4$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                      > Tim G wrote:
                      >> "Dooza" <doozadooza@gmail.com> wrote in message
                      >> news:ggoc86$kjn$2@forums.macromedia.com...
                      >>> Tim G wrote:
                      >>>> You need to set your matte the same colour as the page your placing it
                      >>>> on.
                      >>> Or use a PNG instead of a GIF... but IE6 has "issues" with transparent
                      >>> PNG which can be overcome with some clever trickery
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Even a .png gets much better results if you have your matte set
                      >> correctly.
                      >
                      > I didn't think PNG's suffered from halos at all, I could be wrong
                      > (wouldn't be the first time)
                      >
                      > Dooza
                      > --
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                      • 8. Re: Evil Spirits
                        Level 7
                        Murray *ACE* wrote:
                        > That's not correct. The 'halo' is a result of the anti-aliasing when
                        > you transparentize the background.

                        Ahh well, I thought wrong then, sorry!

                        Dooza
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                        • 9. Re: Evil Spirits
                          howeaver Level 1
                          Alan, Tim, Dooza, Murray...

                          I always appreciate the help from you folks when I send in an issue. Thanks.

                          Trouble here is that the text image I created is being dropped onto a photograph. As a result, I can't match the canvas to the dreamweaver background.

                          Murray, how do I address the anti-aliasing problem?
                          • 10. Re: Evil Spirits
                            Level 7
                            > Murray, how do I address the anti-aliasing problem?

                            You would have to set the Matte color to some color that is representative
                            of the darker colors in the image.

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                            "howeaver" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
                            news:ggufof$arf$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                            > Alan, Tim, Dooza, Murray...
                            >
                            > I always appreciate the help from you folks when I send in an issue.
                            > Thanks.
                            >
                            > Trouble here is that the text image I created is being dropped onto a
                            > photograph. As a result, I can't match the canvas to the dreamweaver
                            > background.
                            >
                            > Murray, how do I address the anti-aliasing problem?
                            >

                            • 11. Re: Evil Spirits
                              Level 7
                              Dooza posted in macromedia.dreamweaver:

                              > Tim G wrote:
                              >> "Dooza" <doozadooza@gmail.com> wrote in message
                              >> news:ggoc86$kjn$2@forums.macromedia.com...
                              >>> Tim G wrote:
                              >>>> You need to set your matte the same colour as the page your
                              >>>> placing it on.
                              >>> Or use a PNG instead of a GIF... but IE6 has "issues" with
                              >>> transparent PNG which can be overcome with some clever trickery
                              >>
                              >>
                              >> Even a .png gets much better results if you have your matte set
                              >> correctly.
                              >
                              > I didn't think PNG's suffered from halos at all, I could be wrong
                              > (wouldn't be the first time)

                              I believe you're both correct.

                              8-bit PNG files are very much like GIF files in that they can use
                              one color of 256 available for transparency.

                              32-bit PNG files are true color (24-bit) with an extra 8 bit alpha
                              channel with 256 levels of transparency. Supported in all modern
                              browsers that I'm aware of (IE6 is not modern in my view).


                              --
                              Mark A. Boyd
                              Keep-On-Learnin' :)
                              • 12. Re: Evil Spirits
                                Level 7
                                Mark A. Boyd wrote:
                                > Dooza posted in macromedia.dreamweaver:
                                >
                                >> Tim G wrote:
                                >>> "Dooza" <doozadooza@gmail.com> wrote in message
                                >>> news:ggoc86$kjn$2@forums.macromedia.com...
                                >>>> Tim G wrote:
                                >>>>> You need to set your matte the same colour as the page your
                                >>>>> placing it on.
                                >>>> Or use a PNG instead of a GIF... but IE6 has "issues" with
                                >>>> transparent PNG which can be overcome with some clever trickery
                                >>>
                                >>> Even a .png gets much better results if you have your matte set
                                >>> correctly.
                                >> I didn't think PNG's suffered from halos at all, I could be wrong
                                >> (wouldn't be the first time)
                                >
                                > I believe you're both correct.
                                >
                                > 8-bit PNG files are very much like GIF files in that they can use
                                > one color of 256 available for transparency.
                                >
                                > 32-bit PNG files are true color (24-bit) with an extra 8 bit alpha
                                > channel with 256 levels of transparency. Supported in all modern
                                > browsers that I'm aware of (IE6 is not modern in my view).

                                Thanks Mark, I hate doubting my sanity :) I was half correct, but now
                                have the information that I require to answer correctly in the future.

                                Dooza
                                • 13. Re: Evil Spirits
                                  howeaver Level 1

                                  Wow! I walked away from this, thinking I had it all resolved (In the end, I found saving the image as a png did take care of the problem). I come back and the thread is still ongoing.

                                  You folks are terrific!