4 Replies Latest reply: May 12, 2008 2:17 PM by terryd1 RSS

    A colour change when swapping to "Edit in Elements 5"

    terryd1 Community Member
      I'm using Vista. In either Lightroom 1.4 or Beta 2 when I choose "Edit in Elements 5", to say print because the printing is so terrible in Lightroom on my HP 990, there is a change in the colours when the picture is transfered to Elements 5 it's more yellow, to get back to a crude approximation of rich tones and subtle shades I see in lightroom I have to adjust the HUE to around -15 now this is the same whether I choose ProPhoto RGB, AdobeRGB(1998) or sRGB for the transfer. Any ideas?
        • 1. Re: A colour change when swapping to "Edit in Elements 5"
          Jao vdL Community Member
          Almost certainly the monitor profile. Are you calibrating your screen? If not, vendor supplied monitor profiles on windows machines very often give this sort of phenomenon. To test, go to your monitor's preference pane and delete the profile shown there. The problem should disappear. Note that if you want good color with prints corresponding to your screen from any software, you have to calibrate using calibration hardware. Decent ones can be had for less than $100.
          • 2. Re: A colour change when swapping to "Edit in Elements 5"
            terryd1 Community Member
            Thank you Jao for your reply. Now I'll ask the dumb question surely a monitor profile (I don't appear to have one to delete for my Samsung Syncmaster 2232BW incidentally) would have the same effect on both programs. Yet in my case after the perfect picture (in my eyes) is transfered to Elements 5 through the "Edit in Elements 5" command in Lightroom I have to adjust the hue -15 in Elements to get it back to the correct colours. Now are these programs using a monitor profile in a different way?
            • 3. Re: A colour change when swapping to "Edit in Elements 5"
              Jao vdL Community Member
              >Now are these programs using a monitor profile in a different way

              Yes. This has to do with Lightroom using the "perceptual rendering intent" in a monitor profile instead of the "relative" one that most other apps (including Adobe's) use. Usually these intents are identical, but for many profiles shipped by manufacturers with their monitor drivers there is a corrupt perceptual intent included that trips up Lightroom. I have no idea why this is, but having looked at some of these profiles, they are clearly defective as shipped from the monitor manufacturer. To change the monitor profile in windows, open up the monitor's propertiesd pane. Click on Settings and then advanced and in the advanced pane, go to "color management." Delete any profile you see there, or associate sRGB with it. You really should be calibrating using a hardware calibrator however.
              • 4. Re: A colour change when swapping to "Edit in Elements 5"
                terryd1 Community Member
                Did what you suggested and the Lightroom rendering is now the same as Elements though to be honest I prefer Lightrooms way of doing it. Thanks again Jao! Now if you can just sort my printing problem out....... Now there you go! Just had a thought, it may now print out the photo the same as Lightroom display it. I'm off to find out! Cheers!