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I've had a Cintiq for almost a year now and haven't experienced that, ever. The Wacom software doesn't dictate that sort of non anti-alias stuff. Are you sure you don't have a pencil (which gives stepped/hard edges) selected instead of a brush.
Thanks for the reply ;-) but it's not about the anti aliasing....I am indeed using a brush...have used Photoshop forever it seems......it's the line quality when you are sketching...the lines are almost wobbly looking like as if you are drawing drunk.......alas I am puzzed expecially as Painter and Sketchbook sketch lines are fantastically smooth...
Does your computer meet the minimum requirements for the Cintiq? I'm not up on PC's (I'm strictly Apple) but there seems to be something amiss in the puzzle.
What are your brush preferences settings? spacing? Shape dynamics settings? Scattering? etc?
When you draw a line with a ruler you get a wobbly line. What happens when you draw a second line over it, without having moved the ruler?
Does it trace the same wobbles as before? then it's probably an out of tolerance problem.
When the wobbles are different, I think there is some electromagnetic interference. Can you move it farther from the monitor?
Thanks for the posts
* My PC is indeed up to the requirements for the Cintiq 21UX
* Have played around with the settings in Photoshop....no joy
Here is a link to see what I am talking about notice how bad the line quality is in Photoshop but perfect in the other two.....a mystery indeed.
Click on image to enlarge it
my website creativeboy.tv link below
Does it happen even if you draw slowly?
All three images were sketched at the same speed motion etc.....only Photoshop is wobbly and have sketched for years so it's not skakey hands to blame etc.....at slower speed in Photoshop the results are more wobbly.....Just got feedback from Wacom and they say it's a Photoshop problem?
Did you read my post #5?
rob, nobody reads post #5!!! :)
>rob, nobody reads post #5!!!
Next time I'll write post # 12. That'll serve 'em right!
This is it!
Post # 12!!!
Hi Rob indeed I did read your post the CINTIQ 21UX is the tablet and monitor in one so I can't move it away from the monitor as it is the monitor....as you can see by the link below something is going on with Photoshop....(Painter and Sketchbook are fine)..I had an Intuos before and never had any line quality issues until I just got my new Cintiq setup......there seems to be a few people out there with the same issue with the CINTIQs and Photoshop just looking to find some answers....Cheers Mike
Click on the link below and click on image to enlarge!!!
I also just got a Cintiq a few days ago and have noticed some issues in Photoshop regarding line quality...
Creativeboy have you noticed that if you flip the pen around to the eraser tip that the photoshop quality improves, I've got improved lines when erasing, but as soon as I flip it back over to the other side the poor line quality continues. This leads me to believe there is some kind of issue with the photoshop brushes maybe.. not sure, never had a brush issue before lol
Oh, only difference is I'm on a mac ;)
Hi Scott.....just did a quick check on Photoshop and not really getting any better line quality by flipping the pen and using the eraser...... I never had an issue before with Photoshop either with my old Intuos tablet which I've had and used for almost 9 years......
Found a few more people who are having the same issue with Photoshop and their Cintiq 21UX.......do you use Painter or Sketchbook pro (or another drawing program) at all....is the line quality good in them on your Mac...
Hey Mike... Yeah I never had a problem with my Intuos either, this is getting a little frustrating now lol.
I've got Painter and the line quality is great in it, Sketchbook currently doesn't work too well on Intel macs, otherwise I'd have it too.
I'd definitely file an official bug report with Adobe about this, with a link provided to the DeviantArt page. That composite clearly shows there's a difference in stroke behavior. As long as you're sure you've eliminated stroke attributes as a cause, this is something that really should be fixed.
Well here is my conversation with Wacom Europe.....not a whole lot of help....very frustrating indeed...as I use Photoshop basically for 99% of my work....been searching the internet for answers but none so far....the mystery continues
Enjoy your weekend
there's something to his suggestion to trying another computer. also maybe a different version of photoshop if you have access to one.
have you played with all the settings in the brushes?
tried to reset the photoshop preferences (sorry, i've been kinda half following, not sure if you mentioned this already.)
I've tried it on three different macs, one G5, two Mac Pro's (a quad and 8-core). As well as CS2 and CS3 varying between the three different macs, throughout all of them, the poor line quality has stayed the same.
I spent a good hour fiddling with brush settings changing everything I could think of to correct the issue, but so far, nothing.
Looks like wacom wasn't much help... even more frustrating. I totally hear you about using photoshop the majority of the time. It's all I use essentially. Granted the application wasn't technically designed with tablets in mind compared to Sketchbook or Painter, but I still don't see why we can't come up with a solution either through Wacom or Adobe.
is ANYONE working correctly with this tablet and photoshop?
I've also noticed that when I'm zoomed in (200%) the line quality does improve, it's still not perfect compared to Painter, but it is a definite improvement. However inking at 200% isn't really a viable option.
so it seems to be a mapping or tracking problem? it sure sounds like the wacom driver. you have no problems using a standard mouse, i suppose.
Hi All thanks for the reply's.....
* Have reset my Photoshop preferences and same results
* Have reset Wacom preferences and settings as per instruction from Wacom...also uninstalled and reinstalled Cintiq driver
* Have played around with the brush settings...resolution etc etc etc....and no improvement in line quality
* Have also heard from other people with Cintiq having the same issues with Photoshop
* As much as I can tell the mouse looks okay
I think it's a Wacom Cintiq Driver issue as my previous Intuos tablet etc I never had a problem with.
*Have also learned from others that other Photoshop versions also have same bad line quality....
*Zooming does not solve the problem as I need to see the whole canvas to sketch and you still get the wobbly lines....
* If I don't figure this out will have to give a bug report....not exactly sure how to do that though......
The mystery continues
This question may be redundant but when you "played around with the brush settings" did you actually reset everything* from the drop-down menu in the Brushes Palette?
* this means:
Clear Brush Controls
Rest All Locked Settings
Yup, I did a complete reset of all the brush settings/controls.
>is ANYONE working correctly with this tablet and photoshop?
Stevie but he is on a Mac.
Well I'm on a mac too!
Yes I have reset all brush settings back to default and still no change
Got myself a brand new HP PC this week
Windows Vista home premium
Intel Core2 Quad 2.40 GHz
2.00 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT
and still have the wobbly line quality in Photshop CS......so it must be something with Photoshop......anyone else have any luck solving this problem
Here is the comparison image again once there click it again for full size image
I have come across this as well, just purchase an intous3 9x12 and have the exact same drunken wobbly lines in PS, but smooth in painter etc.
Creativeboy, any further feedback/results? This is mighty annoying as PS is also my main sketching program.
I am beginning to wonder if Painter has some kind of smoothing function that isn't present in Photoshop, possibly Photoshop shows exactly what you are drawing.
wow this is interesting. I just purchased the new 12" Cintiq. I do a lot of inking in Illustrator (which works great yet of course Illustrator has smoothing options). My lines look bad in Photoshop which worked fine with my old ArtZ.
I'm having the same problem when drawing with the brush tool in CS3-- jagged lines. Not as bad as a bitmap file but pretty close. I know that lines look jagged at 33.3% and 66.7% of full size but they do not smooth out at 25%, 50%, etc like they should. Text looks bad too, even at 100%.
I had no problems before when I was running OS 10.4 and CS2...
Mac Pro dual quad
ATI radeon HD 2600
Yes I'm aware of that. This problem is really plaguing me so I'm looking in all forums for answers.
Perhaps you have the "snap to grid" feature enabled. Go to the View menu, click Snap To, and make sure Grid is unchecked. Also go to the View menu, click Show, and make sure "Grid" is turned off there. The snapping behavior should only happen when the grid is visible, but perhaps you've done something to the grid settings that is making it invisible for some reason.
This helped another user with similar complaints: http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3c06162f/1
Redundant Question, but "Smoothing" is checked right? (Brushes Palette)
I ask this because the two other applications might have some smoohting algorithm by default.
Snap to Grid is off, snap to everything is off. And smoothing is checked. Neither help.
I do wonder, when i last used my intuos3 9x12 at my last job on CS, it worked fine. My new intuos 3 9x12 on CS or CS3 (mac or pc) gives the wobbly lines. What I have noticed is the tablet looks minutely different in places...in the way it is manufactured. The buttons for example have a large gap at the top which i didn't have last time.
What I am getting at is have wacom moved/changed their manufacturing facilities and for some reason these "newer" or "more recent" tablets have some quality issue/fault in them? I dont know, just the only thing I can think of, as this hasn't happened to anyone until recently, and now its happening to a large number of people.