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Why FCP when Avid does the job?
I don't have FCP and Avid... I only have Premiere Pro CS3.... can it do the job?
Avid treats media in a completely different manner that allows for that sort of "real time" workload. All it's really doing when it imports is to encode the source media using an intermediate codec that matches the Avid system's project settings. The benefit is that everything that gets brought into Avid matches and plays back just fine! The drawback is that if you've got anything that doesn't match the settings, particularly resolution, that you might want to hold onto it just discards it in favour of the standard codec and settings.
To do the same thing in Premiere Pro you can always export the sequence using your project settings, import the file back into Premiere (or check "Open in Premiere when finished") and use that file instead. It's an extra step, but it does the same job.
Alternatively, don't export JPEG sequence from 3D Studio Max. It has the ability to export to a range of video formats, including the ones used in Premiere.
Thanks for sharing your opinion, now I have a better picture.
The bad thing is that I must stick to sequenced Jpeg as they are rendered using a rendered farm, which can not output a single AVI with multiple machines.
I like the idea of "import the file back into Premiere", what is the codec setting you would recommand if my project is HDTV, 30 frames/second and the final output will be Digibeta.
I wish someone can write a simple program to automatic that (export individual sequence and import them again)
> The bad thing is that I must stick to sequenced Jpeg as they are rendered using a rendered farm, which can not output a single AVI with multiple machines.
Are you sure about that? Vue6 allows output to AVI while using a render farm. I've tried that often and never had any problems. It would strike me as strange that 3D Studio Max would not have that capability.
hmm... I can check... if I can export to avi, what codec setting would you recommand?
Either HuffYuv or Lagarith lossless codecs, which require quite some disk space and need to be rendered or DV AVI type2.
>my project is HDTV...and the final output will be Digibeta.
My understanding is that Digibeta is SD only, so why edit or work in HD resolutions?
> The bad thing is that I must stick to sequenced Jpeg
Use uncompressed TIFF's or TGA's instead.
Better than JPG.
Yes, but much much bigger.....
Hard drives are cheaper nowadays...
Besides the quality is better, why not work in the highest fidelity you can? Or Bitmaps even?
If Avid works for you why are you doing it on Premiere?
Looks like I should move away from Adobe Premiere... anything good about Premiere really?
Premiere has the most user friendly interface and an incredible number of options, and is an industry standard. You'll always find plug ins for Premiere. However, as of late I get the impression Adobe is more concerned with home users and semi-professional editing than with top professionals. As a result, Premiere does not support any Flash card format except P2 (Which took Adobe over a year to integrate, and only after people asking for it over and over and over again). Adobe relies heavily on third party codecs such as Cineform. Had it not been for Cinefoem, Adobe would never have been HDV ready back when everybody else was.
Adobe will rarely address issues early. Usually they're last. The other thing about Adobe which I find annoying is the high number of bugs and non-working options in their new relases and the fact they don't take the time to fix them with patches before releasing a new version of their software with new bugs and new problems. I have yet to see a perfectly bug free version of Premiere. Now, whenever Adobe releases a patch, it is like the second comming. Hundreds of loyal Premiere users gather round to celebrate these rare events and praise the almighty for a miracle.
All jokes aside, if you don't mind being one year behind on everybody else, Premiere really is a great editing software. But you'll always be last on compatibility. That has been the trend for a while now and it's not getting any better.
> and the fact they don't take the time to fix them with patches before releasing a new version of their software with new bugs and new problems
Things are changing albeit slowly... they have released 3 patches for Premiere CS3 since July this year, that is more than CS2 ever got.
> I have yet to see a perfectly bug free version of Premiere.
Granted it has more bugs than it should, but Premiere is not the only program with bugs. EVERY single application has bugs. Some more than others.
"EVERY single application has bugs. Some more than others".
80% of the encode export options did not work in Premiere 1.5 and were never fixed.
It took a year to fix the Premiere 5.0 missing files bug which erased AVI files from the timeline and the hard drive.
The CS3 initial release had so many bugs, one wonders if the marketing did not force Adobe to release CS3 before it was fully beta tested.
So I suppose if there was a gold medal in consistantly releasing software with bugs, Adobe would compete for the gold. But if you believe it's getting better, I'll take your word for it.
> But if you believe it's getting better, I'll take your word for it.
This is going off-topic and I do not wish this to be a fighting match about Adobe's products.
On topic, Philip Lau, I personally think Premiere is very capable of the job, every NLE has some strengths and weaknesses so it is for a a user to decide which ones to live with.
To keep you on Premiere I would say it has some very useful features especially when used with other apps such as Photoshop and AfterFX. I use Cineform and find the experience very fulfilling and productive.
It is ultimately your choice given your workflow and needs. :-)
Agreed... I was not thinking to give up Premiere, I was just seeking a solution to improve the performance of real time preview... I have another problem of output the video in quicktime format with H.264... even I set the project to be 30fps, the output is always treated as drop-frame which I could not find anyway that I have the choice to set it to non-drop frame.... should I create another topic for this?
> should I create another topic for this?
> a solution to improve the performance of real time preview
RAID, fast Quad core CPU.
>I was just seeking a solution to improve the performance of real time preview
That might come easily if you can answer "why work in HD if final output will only be SD"? Your real time preview will be much better working in SD.
Nowaday, it'd be better to have source done in HD just in case it is needed in the future... nearest future...
OK. That makes sense.