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I back up source files by copying them to an exact same name folder on an external drive.
I leave an empty folder in its original place.
Simple matter of copying the files back if and as required.
Thanks for that Craig,
Can you explain a little more for me please?
So you just move all the files and not the folder?
That means you put all the source files over to an external drive (say D drive) and then when you want them back you just copy them back to your C drive folder (with same name)
Are all the files still linked correctly etc?
Thats right. I leave the original folder name (empty)
I copy the files across. Check they got there (folder size comparison) then delete all files from original source folder.
Then vice versa.
Files are linked again once they are restored back to original folder. If ever not , its a simple matter to redirect.
BTW- forgot to mention.
I usually do a defrag once I have moved and deleted the files .
Thanks Craig I have got the idea now!
One thing though, say you accidently delete your folder name on your computer C drive (the folder that is empty) can you still just set up a new folder (as long as the name excactly matches?) and will still work?
I will def try your method next!
I find the easiest way is to select the original directory with all of it's subfolders, let's say "D:/Original Clips" and copy that to "F:/Backup/Projects" by using Beyond Compare 2, which results in "F:/Backup/Projects/Original Clips".
Its easy enough to recreate the same foldername if you delete it. You just have to remember where it was. Its not really a biggy because Premiere will tell you where its looking for the files if they are "missing" (Offlne). You redirect o one and the rst are auto re linked.
I try to maintain workflow filing protocols that I can understand and can repeat. Sort of my own logic I guess. I have always found that easy on my PC but a bit more difficult on my new Mac. Windows Explorer is a dream compared to Mac Finder system which is tedious and mysteriously clunky.
BTW: Harms way (pun not intended) is effectively what I do because it produces the identical folder structure as the original.
Why not just copy the entire project folder to the external hard drive and delete the original when you are sure the transfer was good? And then just transfer back the same folder to the original hard drive when you need it. Why all this empty folder business?
Just have a look at Beyond Compare. It is one of my favorites.
Thanks for that Harm and Craig, I will try your ways in the next few days.
Jimbo, that is exactly what I have done and it doesn't work. (for me anyway)
The empty folder is simply a place holder that the 'Project' knows how to locate if required.
I have three media drives on each NLE that I can use for clips and files. I produce over one hundred TVCs a year and remembering where all the media was originally stored is a task oince I have archived it to make HD space and defrag. I simply leave the "empty folder" in place when I archive off the clips to external drives. The naming protocol I use makes it simple.
May not work for everyone but I have not thought of a better system over the years I have been doing it this way.
Hi Scott, When you say that it hasn't worked for you, what happens? I'm curious to know. Will the project even open? Or does PrPro prompt you to look for your files?
Craig, I now understand, with that many projects, the need for your personal system! I deal with a much smaller number of projects.
When using the method you suggest (and I thought would work!) all the files appear offline and you have to relink them all! This takes a huge amount of time.
I was simply looking for a way to finish the project, burn 6 dvds from that project then archive the project and source files over to an external hard drive in case I need to bring them back at any time.
I do need access to these projects in a few months again and I was looking for the easiest way to make it all work!
That is why I suggested Beyond Compare. It allows you to compare 2 directories on content, in the example given earlier D:/Original Clips and F:/Backup/Projects/Original Clips and with a simple click copy from or to the designated drive. So, once you have copied from left to right, deleted the left, spent a couple of months doing other things and you decide you need to restore your files, open Beyond Compare and copy from right to left. That's all.
Hi Scott, thanks for explaining what happens. Are you using the Project Manager, or are you just copying your entire project folder that YOU originally created for your project? I just did a test with my system, which, just to clarify, means copying over the entire project folder that I originally set the project up in. And then bringing it back into the same drive that the project was originally set up in. It worked. Premier Pro is none the wiser. It doesn't even know what happens. The project just wakes up in the same bed, so to speak.
If you are using my method, as described above, and have failed, I'd appreciate if you could just confirm that again. If my system is 'iffy' I don't want to bank on it for large or important($) projects.
Thanx Harm - I am taking a trial of Beyond Compare.
Its a nice enhancment to the way I do things but probably a bit more convenient with the security of the comparison.