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    Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update

    Sheri Codiana Community Member
      Thought I'd share a bit of information on the 3.2.0 update that will be coming out via AUM this morning. The update will come out first via AUM, then will be available on the updates page shortly after at http://www.adobe.com/downloads/updates/?ogn=EN_US-gntray_dl_updates.

      The readme will also be hosted at http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/premierepro/releasenotes.html.

      Dave Helmly has posted about the update on his blog, as well: http://blogs.adobe.com/davtechtable/2008/04/xdcam_and_premiere_32.html#more

      New in this release:
      - This update adds compatibility with the Sony XDCAM range of cameras. This includes disc-based XDCAM and XDCAM HD cameras., and the newer SxS-based XDCAM EX cameras. Content from XDCAM cameras can be imported and edited natively without transcoding or conversion. This makes possible similar workflows to Panasonic P2, including the ability to edit content directly from XDCAM EX cameras.

      - Note: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 does not support IMX editing or XDCAM HD50 editing at this time. Export to XDCAM is also not possible.

      - Adobe Premiere Pro now has presets for HDV 24p. Note: Adobe Premiere Pro does NOT support print to tape in 24p mode.

      - Improved handling of MPEG streams (e.g.: HDV video), along with error detection. MPEG stream errors can occur during recording due to tape dropouts, record start/stop glitches, timecode breaks, etc. Bad frames caused by these MPEG stream errors are identified during import/indexing or playback. These frames will play back as full red frames to alert the user that there is a problem in the encoded video at that location. Adobe Premiere Pro will also log error messages to the Events panel, indicating where the error(s) were encountered in the stream. Users can open the Events panel, determine the location of the MPEG stream error, navigate to that location in the clip and take corrective action, such as trimming out the video glitch or covering up the red frames with duplicated good frames copied from before or after the glitch. Note: MPEG files will need to be re-indexed to take advantage of the improvements in Adobe
      Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0. For more information, please see Working with MPEG Files.

      Notable fixes:
      - Titles/Footage no longer show up as offline when reloading saved projects.
      - Rendered preview files no longer missing when reloading saved projects.
      - Certain filters and/or transitions are now applied correctly when reloading saved projects, until the timeline is forcibly refreshed.
      - When exporting via the Adobe Media Encoder, there is no longer a long delay before the progress dialog shows and rendering resums (Mac OS 10.5.x only).
      - 24p HDV clips shot on a Canon XH A1 no longer come in incorrectly as 30 fps clips.
      - Creating an offline clip in the project window then attempting to link it to media on disk no longer results in the application crashing.
      - QT PAL movies rendered out of Adobe After Effects® software are no longer incorrectly identified as requiring rendering in a Adobe Premiere Pro PAL project.
      - DV Clips of certain specific durations are no longer incorrectly identified on the timeline as requiring rendering.
      - For P2 DVCPro clips, the right-most pixel column no longer contains video garbage.
      - Fixed a memory fragmentation problem that would occur with projects with many custom bin columns.
      - Fixed a bug where exporting to a QuickTime movie (with QT 7.4) would crash the application.
      - Selecting "display only exact name matches" when relinking clip no longer crashes on Leopard.
      - Fixed an issue where 30p and 30f HDV clips would incorrectly be identified as requiring rendering in a 29.97 progressive project.
        • 1. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
          Community Member
          sadness still nothing on AVCHD. however, a patch is always good news..
          • 2. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
            Colin Brougham Community Member
            This is a huge update, and you're lamenting the lack of support for a consumer format? Talk about looking the gift horse in the mouth.

            I'm not an XDCAM user, but I gotta say: way to go, Adobe. If XDCAM support works as well as P2 support, this is going to make a lot of people very, very happy.
            • 3. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
              Community Member
              I'm thrilled to see a patch. Let's hope this fixes the frequent crashing and BSOD's many of us experience. I love new features, but I'll take transparent bug fixes first anyday.
              • 4. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                Community Member
                What about AfterEffects? Will the patch enable us to use Bridge to work on certain chunks of video in AE?

                And for those of us in secure environments, when will the patch be available as a download & burn to CD & sneakernet to the NLE editing suite? Our NLEs aren't connected to the internet for security reasons.
                • 5. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                  Harm Millaard CommunityMVP
                  First nice surprise after updating to 3.2: Sorry, Adobe has encountered a serious error and needs to close down, blah blah blah.

                  It no longer opens a HDV project that worked perfectly just yesterday. I guess I have to revert to the previous version for now.
                  • 6. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                    >This is a huge update, and you're lamenting the lack of support for a consumer format? Talk about looking the gift horse in the mouth.

                    I'm not an XDCAM user, but I gotta say: way to go, Adobe. If XDCAM support works as well as P2 support, this is going to make a lot of people very, very happy.

                    "Gift horse"?!? Surely you jest. This program has way too many bugs to have even been brought to market, and if Adobe did anything OTHER than put 'free' updates out they would be burned at the stake.

                    The list of un-fixed fixes is still quite long.

                    /JH
                    • 7. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                      Jeff Bellune CommunityMVP
                      >This program has way too many bugs to have even been brought to market

                      Surely *you* jest. :)

                      The only reason for not bringing a program to market would be known show-stopper bugs like crashes and complete failure of included operations. Minor and/or major bugs with workarounds are part of every software release from every company. Unknown bugs of any kind obviously won't stop release, since they are unknown.

                      Adobe uses a veritable army of beta testers, but even with those numbers not every bug that results from every conceivable system and software configuration can be found before release.

                      Only after the program is "brought to market" will the insidious and unforeseen bugs be brought to light, and then, yes, Adobe should provide free fixes for the discovered bugs.

                      Happily, they seem to be doing just that with the CS3 release.
                      • 8. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                        Colin Brougham Community Member
                        Harm,

                        I don't use HDV, so I'm not sure if this is the case or not, but in the top post, there is mention of having to re-index the MPEG files "to take advantage of the improvements in Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0." While it seems this should be an automatic process, maybe wiping out the previously-created index files (I seem to remember them being in the Media Cache folder when importing MPG files from DVD rips and such) would let the project open. Or, maybe the old trick of importing an existing project into a new one? Just a couple thoughts...

                        To the other poster: surely, I don't jest. At least, not when it comes to anything in the video production industry and my operation in it. Long ago, I gave up expecting perfection from any particular piece of hardware or software, and just focused on being creative. That's why I got into this. I refuse to let any piece of equipment dictate what I can or can't do--I just find another way around. Funny how we managed to make it as a species and a civilization as long as we have, and now that computers are here to make our lives easier (*snort*), we're quick to raise our ire about everything that's wrong with them. That's why I will always marvel at things built long ago prior to the advent of all the technology we take for granted today.

                        Anyway, we're all entitled to our opinions, and I've taken this thread completely off-topic. My apologies, so...
                        • 9. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                          Community Member
                          So far, so good after two hours. I no longer crash while scrubbing the timeline, and I've been able to import & implement a dozen different file types without incident. If I go crash free for the entire week, I'll be convinced that some of the more major issues have been resolved. I'm keeping my aggressive auto save enabled for the time being, though.
                          • 10. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                            Colin Brougham Community Member
                            The titler doesn't seem to be going all wonky (technical term) like it used to, with the panes randomly, and uselessly, resizing. Still a little s.l.o.w. but far more usable than it was.
                            • 11. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                              Jeff Bellune CommunityMVP
                              >I'm keeping my aggressive auto save enabled for the time being, though.

                              Better still is to keep an aggressive "increment and save as" method enabled. Always. No matter how stable the software seems.
                              • 12. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                Community Member
                                Yeah, I do that, as well. I usually have the same project saved under several different file names. I learned my lesson when I lost 30 hours of a college project due to some corrupt file eror. To say I was displeased would be the understatement of the year.
                                • 14. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                  JSS1138 CommunityMVP
                                  I'm not a fan of the temporally compressed formats, but it is encouraging that Adobe was able to implement support for the new Sony EX1 cameras so soon after their release. Took them several years to add P2 support. Now that the Mac port is over, things are finally looking up for us PC users again.
                                  • 15. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                    Harm Millaard CommunityMVP
                                    Colin,

                                    I have tried creating a new project and importing the old one into it, but the same error before the project is finally opened. So the re-indexing step never takes place, because the Serious Error message comes up before it can re-index. I haven't tried deleting the media cache as I think it may be wiser to restore 3.1.1 and then finish this project before going on with 3.2
                                    • 16. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                      Eddie Lotter Community Member

                                      Harm, it would be worth renaming the folder with your source clips in it and then open the project and offline all clips when prompted. If the project loads then you can rule out the possibility of project corruption.

                                      Cheers
                                      Eddie


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                                      • 17. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                        Harm Millaard CommunityMVP
                                        Eddie,

                                        I followed your suggestion and the project loaded without problems. Do you have any further suggestions?
                                        • 18. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                          Bill Hunt CommunityMVP
                                          Harm,

                                          I'm guessing that you are already trying this, but I'd Re-Link one file in the new location, just to see what happens. If all is good, then another, and so-on.

                                          Good luck,
                                          Hunt
                                          • 19. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                            Community Member
                                            Hi Harm -

                                            I doubt very seriously that your error has anything to do with the project. My guess is that one (maybe more?) of your HDV clips is somehow crashing during re-indexing. As Bill suggests, if we can offline the lot, then online them one at a time, if we can find a particular file that triggers the problem, I'd love to take a look at the clip if there's any way to get me a sample.

                                            Cheers
                                            • 20. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                              Community Member
                                              I've noticed something interesting as well. I've got a HDV project shot in 24f with an XL-H1, and now when I open the project, some of the clips are now out of sync - they were fine before under 3.1.1, but something has changed in 3.2.
                                              • 21. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                Community Member
                                                Adobe fixed the 24p HDV import. Perhaps the inter-frame padding changed and that affected the clip length?
                                                • 22. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                  Community Member
                                                  I just went through and had to re-synch the audio, and the final mix - in hindsight, I should have just reverted back to 3.1.1, but why make things easy...plus I thought it was only a few shots.

                                                  What seems to have happened (and I'm guessing here), when it re-indexed, it changed the clip length on some of the shots, and caused some shots to fall out of synch. I noticed that a lot of clips were fixed by simply adjusting the audio up by 11 frames, and then trimming the end of the shot. Others needed some more work.

                                                  It was a mess, but 2 hours later and a lot of work, everything's fine.

                                                  I checked another HDV project I'm working on, and it seems to be fine - but it's 29.97.
                                                  • 23. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                    Colin Brougham Community Member
                                                    Eric,

                                                    There's a mention in the release notes PDF (http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/premierepro/3_2/Adobe_Premiere_Pro_CS_3_2_ ReadMe.pdf) that after re-indexing, inpoints should be checked as they can be offset. So, at least it's a known issue... bummer that you have to sort of re-edit though :)
                                                    • 24. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                      With this new release, does HDV projects load faster? Or does it still takes minutes to load? Also, when you click outside of Premier and go back into premier, is their a lag?

                                                      Thanks
                                                      • 25. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                        Community Member
                                                        My HDV projects are loading brisker, and I experience no lag entering back into the Premiere Window. There was a slight delay opening Photopshop to edit a PSD on the timeline, but I'm not able to consistently reproduce this and can't even be sure it's a Premiere issue to begin with.
                                                        • 26. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                          Community Member
                                                          Great! I'll try the patch when I get home from work.
                                                          Dave, are you using PC or MAC?
                                                          If PC, what type of system you running? (duo core 2.4ghz?)
                                                          Mac (IMAC, Macbook pro, or MAC PRO?)

                                                          Thanks!!!
                                                          • 27. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                            Community Member
                                                            I still do have a small lag when clicking back into PPro when editing an HDV prject.
                                                            • 28. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                              Community Member
                                                              Darin,

                                                              I'm using a PC - Core Duo 2.4ghz, 4GB of RAM on Windows XP. I just got done giving the titler a workthrough, and that problem does appear to be fixed. I haven't noticed any HDV hiccups so far, but I also haven't thrown a lot of source material at it yet. I'm going to see how it handles a variety of offline and on-line media on concurrent video tracks.

                                                              This patch wasn't the be-all, end-all to every problem, but it does appear to have restored stability, and that's the most important thing.

                                                              - Dave
                                                              • 29. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                                Community Member
                                                                Thanks Dave!
                                                                Eric, the lag your experiencing, is the lag better than before?

                                                                I'll have to try this update when I get home.

                                                                3.1 is really slow loading HDV projects. I'm using a Quad Core 2.4Ghz with 4 gigs ram, Windows XP PRO.

                                                                Darin
                                                                • 30. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                                  Community Member
                                                                  It seems a little better, but it's still there. The project load up time does seem quicker - my one HDV project that caused me the grief last night with synch used to take forever to load up - it did seem much quicker under 3.2.
                                                                  • 31. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                                    Community Member
                                                                    Thanks Eric!

                                                                    How long does it take to load now? 1 min, 2 min?
                                                                    How long did it used to take?

                                                                    I think one of my projects takes over 3 minutes to load.

                                                                    Darin
                                                                    • 32. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                                      Community Member
                                                                      Well, I'm disappointed to report I crashed again - this time, the victim of a wild memory leak. Although I have 4GB installed, Premiere left me with a scant 300MB of physical memory after just 30 minutes, and I can't explain why.

                                                                      Premiere was the only program I had open, and although I was working on a complex photo wall with mutliple video tracks and high-res PSDs, this is something the program should handle - especially with the amount of RAM available. Alas, Preimiere locked up and I returned to BSOD land.

                                                                      So, it would seem there is still work to be done on Adobe's end, and I'm sure more issues will be ironed out in the coming months. I'm still quite happy with the 3.2 update, though, and I'll just monitor my memory consumption a little more closely. One workaround is to save my project every 20 minutes, close Premiere, and then open it again.
                                                                      • 33. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                                        JSS1138 CommunityMVP
                                                                        Since the advent of XP, a BSOD is typically indicative of some larger system or hardware issues, rather than an unstable program.
                                                                        • 34. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                                          Community Member
                                                                          "Since the advent of XP, a BSOD is typically indicative of some larger system or hardware issues, rather than an unstable program"

                                                                          Jim, that may be true, but in the 15 months since I've built my XP system, I've only had BSODs with Premiere Pro CS3. I really don't know what hardware could be causing the crash, but the memory loss while editing can be profound. A review of these forums suggest that BSODs in this version of Premiere have not been uncommon, although less-so since 3.2.
                                                                          • 35. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                                            Community Member
                                                                            Also, from my experience, I would stay away from a large amount of psd files. They seem to use much more ram than a simple jpg...

                                                                            KMS
                                                                            • 36. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                                              Community Member
                                                                              Yeah, the PSDs are undoubtedly larger, but don't I need them to create an effective photo wall? Or should I just save the entire Photoshop canvas as a .jpg and import that into Premiere?
                                                                              • 37. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                                                Jeff Bellune CommunityMVP
                                                                                The only BSODs I've ever had on my notebook system (P4 3.4 GHz, 2 GB RAM, ATI Radeon Mobility 9700) were from overheating. Guess what? The only 2 programs that ever generated the BSODs were Premiere Pro and After Effects, because they were the only ones that forced my system to max performance.

                                                                                It would have been easy to conclude that AE or PPro were the source of the problem, rather than merely exposing the problem.

                                                                                A BIOS update allowed me to force all fans to full speed, and my BSODs went away for good.
                                                                                • 38. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                                                  Phil Griffith Community Member
                                                                                  unless you are zooming and or panning the photos, I would suggest you resize them to your project size. That would take a load off of premiere in dealing with high res photos.
                                                                                  • 39. Re: Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0 update
                                                                                    Community Member
                                                                                    Phil - I am indeed doing a lot of panning & zooming, with some Basic 3D thrown in. I've got several 4000x3000 canvases that I'm throwing at Premiere, so no doubt I'm pushing the system pretty hard. I just figured a modern system would be able to handle it.

                                                                                    I've had a few suggest that my Pinnacle Capture card could be the blue-screen culprit, and since I use it infrequently, I may keep it disabled unless I need it. It's never given me a problem in Pinnacle's native software, but perhaps Premiere isn't playing nice with it.
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