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Dual Quad processors with 4GB of RAM (expandable to more if possible for when 64 bit apps are available)
At least three hard drives, but four would be better (set up the 2nd and 3rd in a RAID0).
If you are starting from scratch a MAC isnt a bad idea. MS has proven over and over again it has not an innovative bone it its collective body and vista proves it.
If you are starting from scratch and are a HW guru, go for a PC as Steven describes. If you're not a HW guy and just want things to work, consider a mac.
PS; I dont own a mac (yet) Just frustrated with MS's inability to do something right besides make money.
I got to edit on a Mac quad core with 8 GB of RAM for several days last year. The OS behaved really well and didn't crash. But then neither does my Windows XP system crash.
However, if you think that applications that run on a Mac never crash, then you are wrong. They crash just like their Windows counterparts crash.
And if you ever need to go into "guru" mode to fix a problem with crashing apps, installation, performance tweaks or anything else, be prepared for a rocky ride on a Mac. It is designed to be user-friendly, not guru friendly. And the user-friendliness works, right up until the point where you have to tinker with the system.
I build and sell PC's on the side for money...
PC's are so customizable and that is what I love about them.
OP, whatever system you go with try get dual quad core CPU's preferably Xeons, 4GB RAM, and lots of hard drives.
> Mac. It is designed to be user-friendly, not guru friendly.
Well put Jeff. I have always been "anti mac" myself until I used one for a while recently. They are just well designed from the OS up. Their commercials are all true too :/
That said; Im about to pull the trigger myself on a new WS and will probably get another pc; just cause thats what Im used to. Then I will continue to have the right to complain about MS.
Howard I understand that PCs are more customizable if you wanna call it that but, the problems come where you have a bunch of different parts made by different manufacturers coming together in a PC. Mac makes most of their computer parts therefore are less likely to crash or give you dumb errors, ... I wish I knew about Macs before I purchased my PC.
But I know this local Director and he uses only Macs and they are all like top of the line with huge dual monitors, ... everythings by Mac, ... and all his work is done in HD, ...
He isnt the type of guy that can afford errors during editing or slow rendering. The cool thing about Macs is that you can put up to 32 GIGABYTES of RAM in them, ... PC has max cap. of 4 GB.
Thats what I know, ... things might have changed.
> PC has max cap. of 4 GB
32 bit OS's have a max of 4GB... 64 bit OS's can have much more.
I edit HD all day on my PC using Cineform Prospect 2K and it is realtime just like any other system. No errors here mate...
Problems come in when an incompetent person builds a PC.
I have edited 2K footage under Cineform and Premiere and a PC in realtime...
This Mac myth thing is annoying. Both are great, Macs cost more and work out the box reliably.
PC's are much more customizable, cheaper, same performance because they essentially use the same components, and the weak part is Microsoft.
I guess your right about the incompetent person thing but for some reason I still thing Mac is better, ...
since you do edit on PC, ... what do you think about Matrox? Ever used a Matrox card for Premiere?
> since you do edit on PC, ... what do you think about Matrox? Ever used a Matrox card for Premiere?
I use Cineform.
What is that and how does it work? ... you get realtime editing?
>Mac makes most of their computer parts therefore are less likely to crash or give you dumb errors
Pfft! If only...
>what do you think about Matrox?
You think PCs are bad now? Wait till you put a Matrox card in one.
im actually trying to get rid of the matrox card because it didnt help much, ... to many erros with that too.
> What is that and how does it work? ... you get realtime editing?
Ummm. yes of course it is realtime. Check it out: http://cineform.com/
I can play 12 video streams of full 1920 x 1080 HD with cineform colour correction in realtime. After 12 streams it starts getting choppy... :-)
I'd look at a Quad chip, and lots of ram.
check out my other thread on my new system. The speed is like night and day. My new system is so fast, I don't even have to "preview" a scene, it's that fast.
At this point in time, I'd bypass a dual core chip, and go for the quad simply because many programs are already quad core capable, and I'm going to bet money that the next version of PP is going to support and utilize all cores in the quad chip.
>Their commercials are all true too
Really? When do I get my cheerleaders to help me cheer for the Mac? :D
well I was editing on a PC with like 4gb of ram and 2 duo processors the other day and rendering was still going slow. Someone told me that ram doesn't matter, ... because it still has to take time using the ram. Something along those lines, but anyway, ... during rendering my PC stopped like 3 times, ... (turned off) so i went in Bios and my second processor wasn't working. Which pretty much puts me in a bad situation.
> so i went in Bios and my second processor wasn't working. Which pretty much puts me in a bad situation.
User error not the PC's fault.
> and I'm going to bet money that the next version of PP is going to support and utilize all cores in the quad chip.
CS3 does already!!
I´m right now building a new PC for HDV editing in CS3. What I´ve read is really useful. But I would like to know about Grafic Cards. Between NVidia and Radeon which is more suitable? And in there, specifically what model? 256 Mb or 512 Mb? DDR 2 or DDR 3? What´s the difference?
Sorry for so many questions at a time. Would really appreciate your technical informations.
Thanks a lot!
GPUs don't seem to make a whole lot of difference for Premiere editing. I currently use a $40 ATI X1650 card without issues.
Where'd you get the X1650 for $40? I've only seen the 512 MB Pro version for upwards of $175.
I just ordered a 512MB X1600 Pro for 50 bucks. I need new OpenGL and Pixel Shader capabilities compared to my old 9800 Pro. Plus the 4x more video memory won't hurt, either. :)
AHA! I need an AGP 8x interface, which is considerably more expensive because of the bridge chip required.
Thanks for the info - I had hope for at least a brief time.
EDIT: Well, maybe not considerably more for the off-brand cards. I got an ATI brand X1600. Let's hope the QC on the ATI brand is better than on Sapphire or HIS.