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Copy the clip, open After Effects, create a comp, and paste into the timeline.
When finished, save the comp. Then go back to Premiere Pro and use Dynamic Link to bring in the comp. If you don't have the entire package, and therefore no Dynamic Link, then export the footage out of After Effects and use it. That is often a good idea anyway. It saves processing power.
1. Copy/Paste, or
2. File>Import>APP Project
Then save your AE project. Back in PPro, do File>Adobe Dynamic Link>Import AE Composition...
If you don't have DL capability (you didn't buy the suite), then export from AE with the lossless codec of your choice (or uncompressed) and import that back into PPro.
You can Alt+Drag from the Project panel to the Timeline to replace existing TL footage with the bin footage.
I think I'll just sit back and watch Steven answer questions for a while...
I have Dynamic Link, so we'll give a go that way.
Thank you very, very much.
This will add to the fun of the whole project.
it's all going terribly wrong
copy snippet, open AF, new comp, paste snippet into timeline. . . .
snippet disapears, then I find it, playback time is .5fps/29.97fps.
AF freezes up, spend 15 minutes shutting everything down.
File>Import>APP project ????
in After Effects??? I don't have that on my file list.
File, multiple files, capture in Premiere Pro, vanishing point, placeholder, solid. . .
I even looked in Premiere Pro, knowing it didn't make sense to import something I wanted to take out of Premiere.
Lost, lost and confused. . .
>File>Import>APP project ????
My bad. Sorry about that. I was going from memory. The command is File>Import>File and then in the Open dialog select PPro project (.prproj)
>playback time is .5fps/29.97fps
To get anything close to real time in AE, you need to do a RAM Preview by pressing the Number Pad zero key. You can get a RAM Preview of audio only by pressing the NumPad period key.
As for AE being really sluggish with your material, please consider the format/codec used in the source material, as well as your comp settings.
I really appreciate the help.
Back to seeing what I can do. . . .
I realize now the composition is After Effects has copied an 11.7 GB, 1hour 2min. 2sec. 'snippet'.
Uh.... is there no way to just take a 3 second clip out of what you're editing?
Is this not a feature in CS3???
If that's the case,
Are we left to completing the all the editing before we can start adding special effects to it?
>Are we left to completing the all the editing before we can start adding special effects to it?
Whether or not you can do otherwise, you should do it that way.
Edit your entire program. Then fix the audio and add effects.
I frequently make an intermediate out of a clip by exporting the clip section and opening it in another application eg After Effects.
Tip: Uncheck Recompress on Export from Premiere
I just get the whole damn thing moved over to After Effects
(ie. 11.7 GB . . my whole editing project)
All I want is one of the cut segments.
I'm just thinking there's no way to do it.
I would have thought that's an obvious task that should be rather simple to perform??
The thing that blows me away is there are pieces from the original uncut/edited version that I have deleted.
I'm starting to assume the 'copy' command, copies the original captured video !!
$2,500 . . . flush*
As I noted in that other thread, it works every which way for me. I have no idea why it won't work for you.
I don't mean to insult you with this question, but since you stated in one of your post you're a newbie, I'll start at the beginning.
In your PPro timeline, you've isolated (meaning you've cut out using the razor tool just the piece of video to go into AE) and highlighted it by clicking on just that small clip. You've then done the copy function (Ctrl-C or "Copy" in the menu), and done a paste in AE.
I do this routine all the time and it works fine, so the only thing I can think of that would cause the entire clip to come over is your selecting the clip from the bin, or you're selecting the entire clip on the timeline.
Again, I don't mean to ask basic questions and insult you - just trying to help and see where the problem lies. You'd be amazed at how many times people have problems and it's all because they are doing one small thing incorrectly.
One thing you could try also is cutting out the clip you want to use, put it in a new sequence, and try cut-and-pasting from there.
I also suggested a method (intermediate clip) and you choose to ignore that.
No insult taken. Much appreciated.
You've described exactly what I've been doing.
Not from the bin, nor having the entire sequence chosen.
I can copy an .avi clip over, but not the rest of the 'isolated' clips.
Could it be a problem with .mpeg?
I tried the new sequence, and cut-paste, but all I get is this 'media pending' screen.
I give up for today.
"I tried the new sequence, and cut-paste, but all I get is this 'media pending' screen. "
If your getting a Media Pending in AE, that's normal. Before AE can work with (what I'm assuming is) HDV footage, it has to index it.
What happens when you cut-and-paste between PPro and AE is that when you paste the clip in AE, the entire clip comes over - not just the bit you want, although this is what shows initially on the AE timeline. This allows you to adjust the head or tail of the clip you are working on. If you work on a clip and need to bring it back in PPro and use a transition on it, this feature will come in handy!
However, if you're an editor that captures his footage in big chucks or whole tapes at a time, then makes a large number of sub-clips (or just cuts up the large clip), then the thing you need to do is (as Craig pointed out) is make a new uncompressed video file of the clip you need to bring into AE.
Most of the editors I know, myself included, don't usually capture whole tapes at a time - we break it up into a group of smaller clips. That makes finding the shots or clip you need much easier. That also makes it easier when we cut-and-paste into AE.
I think maybe a good feature request for CS4 would be to allow you to determine how much of the clip you want to cut and paste into AE.
Hi again Eric,
Took a mental break for an hour or so. . .
That was the answer I was waiting for.
Half the battle with computers is knowing how the program has been, well 'programed'. (ie. what it will or will not do)
I will take your advice to capture in smaller clips next time.
Thank you (and everyone else) for your considerate time to help me out.
I'm going home, going to the gym, eating a bowl of ice cream, zone out in front of the boob-tube. . . and get back into the saddle tomorrow.
Signing off for now,
>Whether or not you can do otherwise, you should do it that way.
Edit your entire program. Then fix the audio and add effects.
I dunno, Jim. Sometimes I work out the timing of a recurring effect because it will impact the rest of the edit. Or, I'm tired of editing but inspired to work on an AE effect. Or, the client wants to see an effect sequence I can't seem to describe very well.
That's why they call it non-linear.
There are exceptions, of course. It's just that in general I find it more efficient to do all your rough cuts, tweak those, and then work on effects and audio. And here I'm referring more to effects applied to an edited scene. Stand alone effects will of course have to be finished for the rough cut review.
Jim, Bill and all . . .
I've passed the hissy-fit of not being able to do it the way I want.
I've learned (for next time) to capture from the camera via PPro in smaller clips (perhaps 4 minutes segments?)
The project I am working on is from a 1 hour (11.7GB) High Def captured video in .mpeg that is now edited to how I want it.
I will be exporting it as .avi (?) and opening it into After Effects to do the razzle-dazzle.
Is there anything I'm missing or would be the better to know?
I've been getting the vibe .mpeg isn't the best choice to edit in.
What is suggested?
Thank you again,
You've all been really helpful. My mind just shuts down where others forge ahead, so I appreciate your time and patience.
>I've been getting the vibe .mpeg isn't the best choice to edit in.
Or shoot in.
>What is suggested?
1. AVC-I (Very expensive at the moment.)
2. DVCPro HD (A workable substitute till AVC-I gets cheaper.)
3. That's pretty much it.
Some of us are not unhappy with HDV. Jim has never been to my house to see my HDV on my 60" HDTV, so you have to forgive his impressions based on specs instead of his own eyes.
Oh, let's be a little fair. I haven't been to your house, but I have seen HDV footage. I base my viewpoint on the artifacts I've seen that can accompany the format.
Maybe you've seen the finished products of people at my level (read: bottom)
For example, I just exported my project via Encore, direct to DVD and all the slow motion parts are jumpy (more like a 'ghost' option I had on an earlier still camera).
I assume it's because I copied it as HD and I watched it with a normal DVD player (??)
Well, we're saving that until Monday.
Know what time it is now?
It's Sexy Party time and we're outa here!