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I believe Handycams record MPEG video. That's not the best choice for editing. Tape based MiniDV cameras are still the norm when editing is the goal.
Jim, why do you not give it a rest, reading these comments over and over again is getting a big bore, and is taking the fun out visiting this site.
John, Premiere cannot capture from your camera. You need to use the software that comes with the camera to get it on your pc then you can import it into Premiere.
>I'm a newbie at this...
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That goes both ways Ann. Seeing person after person who knows little about video try and do the job I spent a LOT of money getting trained to do is somewhat vexing. But what can you do? The cost of hardware and software is at a point where people with no training or experience are going to try and do my job themselves. So when that happens and they have a problem, I offer them my view on why that problem exists and how best to correct it.
Jim: Yours is an interesting observation about having the wrong camera to use with Premiere Pro CS3. This camera has a 30 Gig hard drive which captures the video taken. It is my understanding that this technology makes it somewhat easier to get ones video from camera to software for editing. Comments anyone?
> It is my understanding that this technology makes it somewhat easier to get ones video from camera to software for editing. Comments anyone?
WRONG. It makes it easier to watch the video you shot. It makes it much harder to edit that video. The camera records in a format that is suitable for watching, NOT editing.
Tape based MiniDV cameras are the best way to go if you intend to edit in Premiere Pro. Pairing your consumer camera with a consumer editor may also be a viable option. Something like Movie Edit Pro from Magix maybe.
>Tape based MiniDV cameras are the best way to go if you intend to edit in Premiere Pro.
I will continue to dispute "the best way to go..." with Jim. Best is a superlative precluding other possibilties.
Jim shuts the door at the limit of his own experience and hardware /software capabilities but others should be made aware that Premiere is more than just a MiniDV Editing system.
There are better cameras and better workflows than MiniDV available.
I do agree with him about mpeg for editing in PPRO but there are workarounds if the OP can be bothered. eg Adobe Elements
>There are better cameras and better workflows than MiniDV available.
In standard definition, keeping the camera price at or around the same range as a Handycam, no there isn't. Tape based MiniDV is the best choice.
...would you mind passing the wedding cake please.
I don't edit Mpg/Vob/Phone/divX video... but I sure read a lot of messages from new people who come here asking how to edit that type of video when they can't get it to work
While there may be individual problems doing something, or getting an individual camcorder to connect to Premiere, I really don't see very many messages from people who just can't get DV-AVI files to work in Premiere
I have to agree with Jim... anything other than DV-AVI just isn't designed to be edited, and therefore won't edit well in Premiere
Craig, you insinuate that wedding videographers aren't quite up to the level that others that shoot other than. You should not confuse the fact that anyone of us have been using video equip for quite a few years and have a working knowledge of it regardless of what action is being recorded. I think we can all agree that the majority of people who come here looking for help are in fact using cameras that aren't quite up to the task. All cameras will record just fine and that's ok. but rarely do you hear anyone say that they can't get their dv based material into premiere to edit. And the worst of it is the people who get indignant that they can't use their digital still cameras or there $599 cameras to work just like the tv station cameras.
I am not generalising against Wedding videographers at all.
It is just in Jims case...he happens to be one and has built his videography business around tape based MiniDV workflow that he can not see past.
(This is not about HD vs SD or price of cameras or type of camera)
Jim continually reiterates about MinIDV in a tape workflow being "best". Maybe he is saying it is "best for him" but it comes across as "best for everyone" because Jim says so... "I normally recommend..."
Obviously John T Smith agrees with him
> have to agree with Jim... anything other than DV-AVI just isn't designed to be edited, and therefore won't edit well in Premiere
This statement, like Jims constant assertions in this regard are simply wrong and misleading. Why would Jim even consider other cameras if he truly believed what he is saying (eg. The Scarlet Camera, Pannys).
Point is....its not "best for me" and the work I do and I have no problem editing material other than DV-avi.
No wonder Premiere is considered by many Film Company/Organisations to be a Non Professional Editor when the actual Premiere Users have such limiting opinions of their NLE.
Thankfully there are others that have moved on.
You're thinking on a different level here Craig. Obviously I would prefer a tapeless I-frame only work flow, and wouldn't discourage against it. But the only camera that currently offers that is way out of the Handycam's league. And the only cameras in the same league aren't I-frame only.
So that leaves tape based MiniDV as the single best option if editing is the goal.
so you are saying that you have no difficulty editing mpeg with premiere? And I am assuming that since you assert that premiere is not considered a professional editor that you don't use it? As a professional of course.
Holy crap, I actually got you to see my point! Where is that damned calendar...
Doesnt count because I am a whole day ahead of you and so it hasnt happened for you yet...
One thing I should have mentioned is that the camera is going to be used in a high school video editing class. This Sony HDD Handycam costs aroud $450.00 so you see there is some limitation in what we can do.
My suggestion still stands. Doesn't matter whose doing the editing. Tape based MiniDv is still the best option technologically if editing with Premiere Pro is the goal.