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Do a search. This has been discussed at length.
Don't know how I missed that FAQ, thanks for the link Eddie.
HOWEVER, all of that talks about the old youtube setup. Everyone suggests setting up at 320x240...and talks about the 100MB limit which is now outdated...
A more up to date source would be nice.
Good to know.
Everybody has their own favorite format, but they all suck to me. What is the no-bull best settings for YouTube? MiniDV exporting from Premiere CS3. I need good audio as well.
an update on some of the FAQ pages would be nice now that Youtube is now supporting wide screen and even some HD from what I've just seen a few minutes ago.
What ratio should i export for the wide screen?
for standard i used 640x480 and that worked best.
>What is the no-bull best settings for YouTube?
True, vimeo is a great site. They support wide and HD and upload time is extremely fast compared to YouTube.
I just dislike the 500MB limit...
Get Vimeo Pro, 2 GB limit.
I'd rather not pay just to put videos on the web. I don't have a job and it's hard to find one these days and so I am trying not to spend much.
If you don't have a job, I assume it is hobby. Why would a weekly limit of 500 MB bother you?
"If you don't have a job, I assume it is hobby. Why would a weekly limit of 500 MB bother you?"
It's not really a hobby, it's a career I am planning to go into, (editing). At this time I just do it to get the experience and learn software. Being a full time college student means I can't get a full time job too easily.
The reason it bothers me is because I like to make videos around 20 minutes long sometimes and they usually are larger than 500MB in the end. I hate to compress to get it down to the levels needed because that cuts down on the video quality quite a bit.
It seems youtube is changing quite a bit these days, (and for the better IMO). They now let you upload 1GB files, support wide screen and are working on getting HD out there now. I really hope they take off the 10 minute limit though. If thy do that I will be using youtube more than any other site.
You must be a natural talent! A new Stephen Spielberg, if you expect visitors on Vimeo or YouTube to watch anything longer than 5 minutes. Please post a link to some of your work, so we can watch it before you are world famous.
> an update on some of the FAQ pages would be nice now that Youtube is now supporting wide screen and even some HD from what I've just seen a few minutes ago.
I agree, and that was the thought I had in this thread in response to Harm's "is been discussed at length" and Eddie's links. The links are substantially based on the problem (also common to Vimeo) that the service is reencoding using a system that we don't know the details for. So you follow their directions, or someone else's, and then you check the results. It is an experimental process. The conditions have changed, and the previous experiments don't mean very much. And, as of several days ago at least, Youtube has said very, very little about what they now recommend.
So I nominate you (David) to experiment and report back.
Here's the other recent thread on this topic.
Well I'm not famous at all nor is my work amazing but I enjoy doing video production and editing.
my youtube page with all of my work on it:
The Photoshop tutorial came out cruddy, I have to get a new processor later this week to speed up the PC so I can use software to capture the screen.
As I said, I'm not amazing but people seem to enjoy my work at this time. I sold quite a few of my first DVD on audio for video which is a huge boost for feedback IMO.
You can tell from this thread that no real good preset exists. Just a bunch of tinkering around is what I see here. You guys are all guessing like I am! lol! I have Procoder, which is a great tool, but like Premiere it also has a YouTube preset that sucks. Very low res and awful sound. Vimeo may be good, but I would like to find a preset that works from Premier.
I work mostly with MiniDV (not HD) footage and a decent camera (Canon XL1s), but I am not satisfied with my uploads. I tinker around, but it wastes a lot of time. I've tried the flv, H264, realplayer, quicktime, etc. I like to upload straight avi, but it takes a while - and often exceeds the 1 GB limit. It's important to have that choice of "watching in high quality"
Please, somebody come up with a no-bull good preset for YouTube!
H264 has been working well for me...in YouTube's High Quality mode.
"Normal Quality" is crap and I suspect it will eventually go away.
For SD, I suggest H264 compression at 640x480 and throw as much data at it as you can manage (up to the 1GB limit).
As for HD on YouTube, it is surprisingly good. I just uploaded a personal project file (H264, 1280x720, 130 MB), linked below. Shot with an EX1. Watch it full-screen for best results. :)
I like it better than Vimeo in that it retains my original frame-rate. Vimeo converts everything to 24 fps, I've heard, which explains the cadence problems I see with 30 fps material.
Bill that's pretty damn impressive. I didn't even know YT was doing HD so I need to catch up!
Thanks for posting your settings, that'll be my start point.
Oh sure, Matthew, YTHD is so last week ;)
Heslip, your video:
I am working with SD AVI footage, not HD. I upload AVI to YouTube if it's under a GB and it looks fine. My exports to H264 codec is alright at 640x480, but I wish I could do better.
What is the best player for H264 files? Realplayer, Adobe Media player, and Win Media player don't work. Only Quicktime, and it's poor.
I like the KMPlayer. Plays just about anything and has a better default UI than VLC.
Alex the H264 isnt a file type, it's a codec used to process the file.
I have had good luck in the past using the 264 codec exporting at 640x480 to a Quicktime format.
Usually the H264 comes out to a quicktime .mov file so Quicktime would be a good player to play those video files IMO.
My editing teacher at the college swears by Sorenson 3 but he is running Avid Xpress Pro 4.5 and so I guess he has better luck with it. I personally get huge files with that codec...
Thanks Alex (and Matthew). Like Jim said, VLC is a good choice. I didn't like it at first because it highjacked every video file on the system (like RealPlayer used to), although I think it's better about that now. Probably user error.
Really, there is no magic formula (preset) for good compression. Every project demands something different for the circumstances. Throwing a large hunk of data at YouTube is a no-brainer (it gets recompressed anyway). The Art of Compression is a balancing act between quality and datarate. The only way to find the sweet spot (high quality/low datarate) is trial and error.