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1. Re: Grainy dissolve
Jim_Simon Nov 15, 2008 9:08 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Too low a bitrate is the only thing I can think of. -
2. Re: Grainy dissolve
(Anthony_Jurus) Nov 15, 2008 10:01 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Jim,
Thanks for the reply. I use Progressive High Quality on my export setting. Under another export setting, I have the basic video quality
at 4.0 (highest is 5.0)
The bitrate settings are:
VBR, 2 Pass
Min: 1.5
Target: 4
Max: 7
I tried raising the max to 8.0 and it didn't make any difference.
Should I try changing the minimum or target rates?
Thanks for taking a look at this.
Anthony -
3. Re: Grainy dissolve
Harm Millaard Nov 16, 2008 3:37 AM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))If you don't understand encode settings let Encore do it for you. Export as movie and import into Encore. Encore will do the rest. -
4. Re: Grainy dissolve
(Anthony_Jurus) Nov 16, 2008 9:59 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Thanks Harm---
I tried the Encore method, but the grainy dissolve persists.
I'll keep trying to figure it out.
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5. Re: Grainy dissolve
Jim_Simon Nov 17, 2008 10:49 AM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Can you post the last few seconds online somewhere, in MPEG2 format with those same settings? Maybe if we could download and see the result... -
6. Re: Grainy dissolve
the_wine_snob Nov 18, 2008 11:13 AM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Anthony,
Which Dissolve did you use, and exactly how is it applied, i.e. the Clips before and after the Dissolve?
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7. Re: Grainy dissolve
(Anthony_Jurus) Nov 18, 2008 9:51 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Hi Bill,
I am using a cross dissolve at the end of the video.
I used it throughout the video between clips and it works like
it should. For some reason, the end dissolve is grainy.
I have no idea why this is happening.
If I output to tape, the dissolve works just fine. When I send it to
Encore to create a DVD, the result at the end is grainy. I wonder if there is a certain setup I am missing when Encore is involved......
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Anthony -
8. Re: Grainy dissolve
shooternz Nov 18, 2008 11:57 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))What does it cross dissolve to if it is at the end.
Try dip to Black. -
9. Re: Grainy dissolve
Dag Norum Nov 18, 2008 11:58 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Shot in the dark, but...
Maybe you should try to cross dissolve to black video at the end?
(File, New, Black Video, which you put at the end of your timeline)
Dag -
10. Re: Grainy dissolve
the_wine_snob Nov 19, 2008 9:07 AM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Dag,
You stayed up late and beat me to the punch. That is always how I end a Sequence - with 02 sec. of Black Video and either a Dip-to-Black, or even a X-Dissolve, but TO the Black Video.
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11. Re: Grainy dissolve
Dag Norum Nov 19, 2008 1:12 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Hunt,
>You stayed up late
No, that was early (well, not very) this morning, here were I live.
>beat me to the punch
Actually Craig beat me (if I just hadn't done the spell-check, then...)
>That is always how I end a Sequence - with 02 sec. of Black Video
That's what I do also, especially when I export to .wmv, which seems to never go quite to black unless having the black video at end.
>and exactly how is it applied, i.e. the Clips before and after the Dissolve?
You did beat both Craig and me, coming up with the right question!
Dag -
12. Re: Grainy dissolve
(Anthony_Jurus) Nov 19, 2008 2:58 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Hi Gentlemen,
Thanks for the ideas. I tried adding black and adding the
"dip to black" but same result. When I view it on the timeline, export it to tape it is fine.
Once I export it to encore to create a DVD, the entire video comes
through fine except the dissolve at the end which is grainy.
I wonder if there's something wrong with my system? Encore?????
This is such a simple transition and yet it's not working like it
should---at least on my system.
If anyone has any other ideas, I would welcome them.
Thanks again,
Anthony
PS Is there a way to post a short clip somewhere thereby showing
the grainy dissolve????? -
13. Re: Grainy dissolve
Jim_Simon Nov 19, 2008 4:53 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))There are many upload sites. I like flyupload because it's free and you don't have to register. -
14. Re: Grainy dissolve
(Anthony_Jurus) Nov 19, 2008 9:35 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Jim,
How do I upload a clip from a DVD? That's where the
dissolve is grainy.
Thanks,
Anthony -
15. Re: Grainy dissolve
(Anthony_Jurus) Nov 19, 2008 10:34 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))I tried another video tonight (after 2 different
pieces yesterday) and the end dissolve was clean.
The only difference in the creation was a shorter video used to
test the dissolve.
Tomorrow I will create a much longer video to see if it
is still clean.
I've never seen anything like this before, not in Avid or
Adobe...... -
16. Re: Grainy dissolve
Jim_Simon Nov 20, 2008 11:22 AM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))If you still have a problem, you wouldn't upload from the DVD. You'd upload the exported MPEG from Premiere. -
17. Re: Grainy dissolve
the_wine_snob Nov 20, 2008 3:35 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Anthony,
That is odd. Same system, same NLE, same Dissolve, just different footage and you get two different results.
Tell us a bit about the original Asset, i.e. what format is it? Which Video Track (VT) is it on and is there anything on the VT's below it? Are there any Effects added to this Clip?
Another workaround might be to place Black Video on the VT below this Clip, and extending a few seconds past it. Then, Keyframe the Opacity of the end of the Clip from 100% to 0%. You could just Keyframe the Opacity, without the Black Video, but since you are having a problem, I'd add it below, just to be certain.
Good luck,
Hunt -
18. Re: Grainy dissolve
(Anthony_Jurus) Nov 20, 2008 7:13 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Hi Bill,
I appreciate the tips. I tried using the keyframe method, but
same result----grainy dissolve. This is basically driving me
crazy at this point.
My original video is mini-DV and I'm using VT 1 with nothing
below it and no effects.
I created a short (8 sec) video last night and sent it to Encore
and was happy to see a clean dissolve. Today I created a
10 minute video and sent it to Encore the exact way and there's
my grainy dissolve.
HELP! My father-in-law will stop by this weekend to take a look.
He might be able to assist.........
I'm a good editor with lots of experience in Avid---this
dissolve issue is making me wonder about my system.....
Thanks for all of the ideas---if you have more keep them coming!
Anthony -
19. Re: Grainy dissolve
Jim_Simon Nov 20, 2008 8:14 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))I had a really weird sound issue with fades recently. There was absolutely no logic to it. I can only guess something somewhere got corrupted. I found a way around to make it work, but never discovered a real why for the issue.
So far I see nothing 'logical' about your problem, so I have to wonder if something illogical is going on. A slight corruption in the project, some bad code, something.
As a test, select and copy all the clips from the problem sequence. Start a brand new project, and paste the clips into a new sequence. Try exporting from there just to see how things look. -
20. Re: Grainy dissolve
(Anthony_Jurus) Nov 20, 2008 10:15 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Jim,
That's a good idea. Would I just "copy" the entire timeline
and "paste" it into the new project? (Is that the entire process?)
By the way, I exported the project tonight to the desktop
and sent it to Roxio My DVD 9. It went in and lo and behold
the end dissolve was CLEAN! I am so psyched that it worked.
That said, I still would like to have Encore work the way it
should for me. It's nice to know I have a fall back option now,
though. I would like to upgrade to CS 4 and hope that Encore would
not be a problem.
I truly appreciate everyone's advice. It is really cool to be
able to have access to this forum and have so many intelligent
people help out with issues.
Thanks,
Anthony -
21. Re: Grainy dissolve
shooternz Nov 20, 2008 10:39 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Import the old project into a new project. -
22. Re: Grainy dissolve
Eddie Lotter Nov 21, 2008 6:30 AM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))>I'm a good editor with lots of experience in AvidSome of your problems may well be your inexperience with PPro. You will find links to many free tutorials in the PremiereProPedia that will quickly show you how things are done in Premiere Pro.
Cheers
Eddie
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23. Re: Grainy dissolve
(Anthony_Jurus) Nov 21, 2008 7:25 AM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Craig and Eddie,
Thanks for the tips. I will enjoy the PremiereProPedia----
it should help a lot.
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24. Re: Grainy dissolve
Jim_Simon Nov 21, 2008 7:31 AM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))>Would I just "copy" the entire timeline and "paste" it into the new project?
Yes. -
25. Re: Grainy dissolve
the_wine_snob Nov 21, 2008 2:07 PM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Anthony,
Maybe just keep the "grainy dissolve," and post it to Vimeo or YouTube. In a few weeks, people will be posting, "how did he do THAT?"
Good luck, and glad you do have a fallback.
Hunt -
26. Re: Grainy dissolve
(Anthony_Jurus) Nov 22, 2008 11:28 AM (in response to (Anthony_Jurus))Good one, Bill! I'm glad that I have a 2nd way now too.
I'm sure I'll come across a few more interesting scenarios
to ask the knowledge folks!
Thanks again for taking the time to look at the issue.
Anthony