I do this using Photoshop. I start with a DV template, then adjust the vertical to 2000 pixels, instead of 480. This gives me enough room to type the credits I normally use. Yours may require more or less room.
I then bring that .psd into Premiere as Footage, and keyframe the Motion effect to make it 'roll'. I leave enough black between the last rolling credit and the freeze frame credit so that the rolling credits are off screen when I do the freeze with another keyframe.
...and I do that in AEFX where it is very simple, flexible and controllable.
Use Key frames.
I do not use the scrolling tiles function in PremPro but when I played with it (sometime ago) I found it clunky and not key frameable enough to do what I generally wanted to do with any precision. I doubt that you can freeze the roll but you could do a work around with a frame grab.
I use PPro to set up the scrolling titles first. IMHO, the tabbed feature is perfect for your standard character/actor layout like you see in most film credits. It's a lot easier than AE or PS alone, as it is more of a blend of motion text and word processor functions than any other options.
When I have a title that scrolls up at the end and stops, I just create that title or grab the image and animate it up separately with an ease in to the center. Usually works fine.
That being said, you could just make sure not to check the "ends off screen" option in the PPro titler, and use the ease in functions if your final title is just text. That way you don't have to coordinate the timing of the scroll speed and your motion keyframes on the final title (which doesn't take long, but still...)
Hope this helps.
>the tabbed feature is perfect for your standard character/actor layout like you see in most film credits
How do you get that to work? Within the same title, I have never been able to get the left column right justified, and the right column left justified. I had to use two titles for this. Hence my recent move to Photoshop.
Here's the help page that describes using the tab stops:
Let me know if that's clear as mud and I'll try to shed more light on the subject.
One thing that isn't specified/clarified/whatever (and was the biggest stumbling block for me when I first tried this in PPro 1.5) is that the ruler for the tab stops is zeroed at the edge of the text box, and tab stops ONLY work in text boxes (or "text area," however you please). At any rate, you have to position that ruler so that the zero point is at the left edge of your text box, and then the rest of the instructions in the help doc will make sense.
Also, it's useful to show the tab markers while you work. Just go "Title > View > Tab Markers" and you're good.
Hope this helps!
As a side, I have found that this one feature is really the best and most useful part of the PPro titler (and also, just about the only function in the titler that WON'T cause your system to crash on a regular basis).
Thanks for that. I too had used Tabs, but was never satisfied, so I took the PS route too.
Luckily for me, Titler has been rock solid (I know I have just jinxed myself to an eternity in "Titler Hell"). Still, I start most major titles in WordPerfect (Spell-checker helps me a lot), then Ctrl-a, Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v, to Photoshop, or AI, depending.
I'll give your suggestion a go. Heck, learned something new, and it's still before 8:00AM AZT! Guess I can go relax by the pool now!
As a thought, as long as your type in WordPerfect had a tab entered ahead of each item, you should be able to set up your tab marks and then paste the text in.
Two birds with...well, two stones, but still less than 3 or 4 stones, eh?
I'll give it a go. Hey, two stones is often better than a handful, right?
Two flies in one snap (smack??)...
Our kind of saying (Norwegian one).
I could also say another one directly, but that would probably be moderated away, but it goes something like this: If you have a wish in one hand, and a load of poop in the other hand; in which hand do you have the most? Point is: The practical way is the way to go!
But, now and then I see some really good posts/advices, and like you Hunt, I see that: I still have something to learn (or at least need to be reminded about (just not be too modest :) ))
Thanks Christian, you are a jolly good fellow :)
What about taking a snapshot (picture) of the title at the exact moment ot he title and having it as still ? premiere takes the snapshot camera button.
Premiere creates nice rolling titles by itself.
With Keyframes on the Fixed Effect>Motion>Position (per Jim Simon's Reply #1), that is not necessary. Whether one uses Titler, or PS to create the Title, its Motion>Position can be paused, anywhere, and for however long.
I just did this (using a very, very long Rolling Title from PS), and stopped with the final line of the Title, where I wanted it. Then, after a time, I used Keyframes on the Fixed Effect Opacity, to "fade" that last line away.
With Keyframes on Motion>Position, one can add "pauses" to the Roll, wherever and however long, they wish.
Use add logo to insert an image at the end of the tittle.