7 Replies Latest reply: Mar 9, 2009 4:10 PM by E Baldwin RSS

    Premiere CS4 Cineform HDV to SD down convert

    E Baldwin Community Member
      Has anyone tried http://cineform.blogspot.com/2008/12/mastering-24p-dvds-from-hd-using.html using Premiere CS4 and Cineform Neo Scene? In my tests the down converted Cineform SD file was corrupt. The clip only plays the first few frames and the preview goes black. Anyone had success with Cineform HDV to SD down converts with Premiere CS4?
        • 1. Re: Premiere CS4 Cineform HDV to SD down convert
          joshtownsend Community Member
          Did you update to the Cineform version that supports CS4? If not that your problem.

          But the bigger problem is Cineform doesn't support CS4 yet.
          • 2. Re: Premiere CS4 Cineform HDV to SD down convert
            joshtownsend Community Member
            Good article though.

            Using his method you just have to make an uncompressed or visually uncompressed 1080 master from Premiere using a codec other than Cineform. Then convert to DVD in AME.

            Maybe the 'max render quality' bypasses applies the FX before the reduction and that's why it takes so long.
            • 3. Re: Premiere CS4 Cineform HDV to SD down convert
              E Baldwin Community Member
              > Using his method you just have to make an uncompressed or visually uncompressed 1080 master from Premiere using a codec other than Cineform. Then convert to DVD in AME.

              To me Cineform does a much better job of doing the down convert than AME plus Cineform retains the color space. It realy looks good.

              I am running the latest level of New Scene and it does not fully support CS4. The only problem I am having is the down convert. The down convert works fine in Vegas Pro 8.0c so I am not sure if the problem is AME, Neo Scene, or me. I believe I have the AME render parameters set correctly but I was hoping someone else had tried so I had some additional info.
              • 4. Re: Premiere CS4 Cineform HDV to SD down convert
                joshtownsend Community Member
                I'm trying to tell you Cineform files don't write or read in any CS4 product. I wasn't disagreeing about how cineform looks just trying to give you a work around because your cineform file rendered in Vegas WILL NOT work in CS4.

                understand now?
                • 5. Re: Premiere CS4 Cineform HDV to SD down convert
                  E Baldwin Community Member
                  > I'm trying to tell you Cineform files don't write or read in any CS4 product. I wasn't disagreeing about how cineform looks just trying to give you a work around because your cineform file rendered in Vegas WILL NOT work in CS4.

                  The Vegas rendered cineform (Neo Scene) files work fine in CS4! Neo Scene is a Cinform VFW codec shared by all. Cineform files work fine in CS4. Playback maybe a little slow depending your hardware until the loader is released. Downconvert with AME was the only problem I encountered. Read the Cineform forum. Are you always this caustic.
                  • 6. Re: Premiere CS4 Cineform HDV to SD down convert
                    joshtownsend Community Member
                    Maybe you'll be so kind as to point me where on Cineform's site they say any of there products are CS4 compatible?

                    Everywhere I see they say CS4 coming "late January" or "by Febuary".

                    http://www.cineform.com/products/NeoScene.htm

                    "* CS2 and CS3 are currently supported. CS4 support will be available in February 2009"

                    and this

                    http://www.cineform.com/products/Prospect.htm

                    "Until the time we release Prospect HD for CS4 (around the end of January 2009), all Aspect HD customers may upgrade to Prospect HD for $199 at our online store. All upgrades prior to our release for CS4 will be to Prospect HD v3. All PHD v3 upgrades will also come with a free upgrade to Prospect HD v4 (late January) that will support CS4."
                    • 7. Re: Premiere CS4 Cineform HDV to SD down convert
                      E Baldwin Community Member
                      "Neo Scene 1.1 is CS4 compatible..." You can read the remainder of the thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/cineform-software-showcase/144784-neo-scene-1-1-2-release-wind ows.html. Neo Scene is still in development.