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Opening old projects in CS4 is USELESS!!!
This software is nothing but trouble. Encoder crashes when you try to export in 1280x720. Previous projects get squashed after timeline is rendered. Encore cannot transcode.
Spent $3000 for 64-bit machine, 8GB DDR3 RAM, Q9550 quad processor and cannot even burn a simple DVD!!
Premiere is NOT READY FOR HI DEF. Only understands 720x480 29.97 DV tape format.
I had better luck with Premiere 6.0 on a 2.4GHz single processor. Didn't play so smoothly, but at least I could export the timeline!
I've been able to open CS3 projects with only some minor quirks showing up. Everything seems to be working just fine for me. I'm loving CS4.
Sounds like there are still some bugs. I will wait.
I am liking everything about CS4 so far. No problems with opening older projects (but I am still editing in SD so I can't vouch for HD projects)
What about creating DVD's?
Is the quality better than before?
Is the rendering quicker now too?
Thanks for sharing,
The quality is my experience is MUCH better than cs3, I no longer have to use Dan's work around to get a decent looking DVD.
In what way is CS4 rendering quality superior to CS3?
What types of video sources are you basing this upon?
The reason I ask is because I've always gotten superb quality out of CS3 for encoding DVDs. In fact, so superior, that we stopped using Cinemacraft encoder because the CS3 encoder was actually superior and produced pictures with finer detail and less artifacts.
At present, the 24P DVDs we author are of a quality level that surpasses a majority of mass-produced Hollywood DVD titles.
I can't imagine CS4 being visibly better, but it's always possible, so I am very interested in knowing what aspects of the quality improved.
I believe some color conversion problems were corrected that Dan had pointed out. Other than that the encoder is the same; just repackaged as a stand a alone app that can batch from Pr, or from its own interface.
MUCH better? wow!
Now I am very interested.
I wish I could download the trial version!!
MPEG2-DVD encoding is faster in CS4 than CS3 if you first Render the Timeline AND you turn on "Use Preview Files" in the Export Settings Window. Until I get more consistent results in testing CS4 with my benchmark I hesitate to give numbers.
Mark, Progressive video in ppcs3 was fine. what I am talking about specifically is HDV 60i footage which always looked horrible.
This was a well known issue in cs3, if you have been getting great looking 60i HDV video from cs3 I would love to hear your workflow :)
Anyway this has been much improved in cs4 and I can finally get a decent looking mpeg2 from AME.
Oh wow! Now I might change my mind and want to buy it!!!!!
Thanks for the information.
What about the stability?
CS4 IS ready for HDV. I just edited a huge project with over 30 hours of 1080i HDV video ingested. 50 hours of edit time. PROS: Outstanding encodes via the new media encoder, including outputs to NTSC PAL and a host of other formats. No problem with DVD encodes and burning. Speech to text rocks. CONS: Down time for "conforming" newly ingested video, LONG project load time (though these two issues are common to Adobe's overall HDV architecture, not just CS4), new to CS4: HUGE resource needs (mostly RAM - don't try CS4 with less than 4gb). Also - CS4 appears to have problems dealing with preview files, frequently throwing out "media pending" flash frames after effects were rendered, then moved project was closed and re-opened.
My interest is...how is CS4 handling P2 (mxf)?
My CS3 (Premiere & AEFX) experience with mxf is flawless/fabulous/amazing.
My most recent project was a symphony orchestra shoot with four cameras, two of them XDCam, two HDV. Since one of the HDV cams lacks a 30p capability, I chose 60i.
Now let me put this in historical perspective:
Last March, I shot the same symphony hall with 1 XDCam and two HDV, one of which was 60i. That time around, I chose the 'deinterlace' option on the clip within the timeline. The final DVD was plagued with jaggies due to the vertical resolution being halved.
This time around, I used the same project settings, (XDCam 30P), but I chose NOT to use deinterlace. The rendered output looked superb on the DVD. I was amazed at how close the HDV footage looked (in SD) compared with the XDCam footage.
My workflow includes some vertical blur and some agressive unsharp mask settings at render, and I do this in a nested timeline I call "output render".
For this latest project, HDV 60i, 30PsF and XDCam 30P all worked together beautifully.
Are you making sure you uncheck "deinterlace" in the encoder's output preview screen? It defaults to ON and results in horrid rendered output. Turn it off and watch the magic appear.
I just tried some AVCHD on a friends work machine and I am mightily impressed. (I had been converting AVCHD to HDV and editing that in CS3) His machine was not quad core but CS4 handled it reasonably well. Up til now everything that claimed to natively support AVCHD performed performed like a pig (like a bunch of stills) on the timeline. I want CS4 now!
> My interest is...how is CS4 handling P2 (mxf)?
Like butter. P2 workflow is very good; I dont think anything has changed re P2 ingest/editing (from cs3 to cs4) except the metadata now is more easily editable via a spreadsheet like tabbing around the project panel fields.
Oh; you may like the CS4 media browser which browses and shows P2 media thumbnails nicely. The media browser is semi intelligent. If it detects a P2 folder structure, it displays it in a friendly way.
You can't transcribe P2 audio without converting it. If you shoot 108024pa your clips show up as 29.97 not 23.97 like in cs3 and you have to interpret each clip which is a pain in the ***. Bridge doesn't show p2 thumbnails or video yet.
Other than the media browser part P2 support has been 2 steps forward and one step back.