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> I try to export a Project that in CS3 Works PERFECTLY
Have you tried a new progect in CS4? A common recommendation on the
premiere forum is to keep the previious release until all the projects are
done, and to start new projects in the new release. Opening older projects
in new releases of premiere often leads to problems.
Yes, I try to create a NEW project, and the same UGLY THING. When I Export a Quicktime with the JPEG codec (whatever), the results are Really Bad. It´s like if the Quality of the codec have set to 0.
Ah!. I found the problems with the numbered stills. I don´t know why, but when I import a sequence of images, it appears how if these are 29.90FPS, NOT 25fps (the project´s settings).
In CS3, in a project in 25FPS, the numbered stills appears correctly when imported. I see something in the preferences about "unknow timecode settings" that point to 29.90, and I set it to 25fps, but no luck anyway :-(
Well, I updated the Quicktime to the latest version. No luck. I try to see the propierties of the new files created with Adobe Media Encoder and it´s a bit suspecting, because Quicktime report as N/D codec, when the other files created with CS3 are OK.
The last test I done its to export in the JPEG2000 codec. This appears to be fine and valid, BUT the playback it´s very jerky and slow.
This is incredible :-(
One thing you can try is to create a new project with the settings you need and then "import" the other project into it.
Today I tested Premiere Pro CS4 in another machine, with OTHER S.O (XP x64, not supported): THE SAME PROBLEM.
I cannot configure the import still images to match the project timebase. It always set to 29.90, always.
Adobe Media Encoder, the same. Exporting Quicktime with the PhotoJpeg codec have serious compression...unusable :-(. In this side, it´s equal to import a video directly in Adobe Media Encoder, the results are the same.
Very dissapointed :-(
I have similar problems exporting my video as the QT Animation codec. Terrible errors and compression artefacts in the result, unusable.
I figured this out the other day. CS3 automatically would adjust the bitrate for you compared to the video size. Now they defualt into very small bitrate. You have to click the advance render and figure out what bit rate works right for you then manually set it.
EDIT I just tried it and there is no bitrate changes avaible and your right it looks horrible. Animation codect should be close to uncompressed. Looked like streaky ***.
COME ON ADOBE WTF?
Ok so first off... create a new project with custom settings and set your editing mode to DESKTOP! then set your frame size, frame rate, and field order manually.
Now right click in your project panel and choose "new item" then "bars and tone" now output that as UNCOMPRESSED (don't worry you can always come back to the file later and re-encode it with h.264 or what ever.)
If your output looks good now, then its probably a problem with your settings/codec.
If your output looks bad at this point, then format your HD, reinstall your OS, and just install drivers, and premiere, and test it again with the bars and tone, if that still doesn't work then perhaps you should look into other software, or go back to CS3.
I ALWAYS work in Desktop mode. And yes, I have tried to save in AVI UNCOMPRESSED or another codec. These WORK!. What doesn´t work it´s when I try to export to MOV. The settings of the codecs i´ts useless because you can touch whatever but the quality it´s very BAD.
I think that its a Premiere problem related. Maybe the Media Encoder cannot "talk" with the codec itself and cannot pass the parameters that you set in the Media Encoder. In other applications (Photoshop, for example), you ACCESS DIRECTLY to the codec, so you set the things DIRECTLY in the codec and these work!
The solution of reformating and installing all it´s really bad. Because ALL the system that I test have the same result. MOV PhotoJpeg exports (and I think that all codecs under MOV) are useless.
I agree that reinstalling is hardly a solution. It really seems like the Media Encoder has problems with quicktime codecs. For example, I just encoded the same clip from with the Media Encoder unsing the QT Animation codec. Result: artifacts in the picture, _lots_ of them. Then I encoded the clip with QT Pro - perfect picture.
both QT-photojpeg and animation outputs are unusable.
If I want to work with mt2s(sony) files I have to encode
to mpg2 and then make my QTfiles with TMPGenc.
CS4 cannot make a proper QT.
bad very bad.
I have noticed the same thing trying to export a still image sequence using the Quicktime Animation codec. In CS3 this worked perfectly; in CS4 90 image frames exported to the Animation codec results in a video with half the frames dropped and quality is crap. There is definitely a problem there.
Can someone tell me if it's fixed my AME doesn't work on my Vista 64 and I can't update my AME on my Vista 32 so I can't check to see if it's fixed.
Send your project to After Effects and you render it there with Animation working correctly.
yes...sending the project to AfterEffects and render it
give much better QT results ! Also QT-Photojpeg looks nice.
thanks for the advice
such a shame AE cant handle mt2s-avchd files.
(I have got to make a convert from mt2s to QT-photojpeg)
Does anyone know if this is the way to keep the best quality ?
premiere : mt2s to mpeg 2
aftereffects : mpeg2 to QT-photojpeg
all in 1920x1080 1:1 pix
thank you in advance
Hope that Adobe will fix this problem. It would be nice to import AE compositions and render them from AME.
Trying to make a preset to render Quicktime "Animation" or "None" codec, the result looks like crap. Starts with Quicktime - PAL DV preset. Selecting "Animation" "24bit". The result looks really bad. Looks like long stripes cross the screen. Trying in both Mac and PC. Same result. If I select "Avid Meridien" codec it works fine. The problem with "Animation" codec is that the "Codec Setting" button is grayed out.
> such a shame AE cant handle mt2s-avchd files.
> (I have got to make a convert from mt2s to QT-photojpeg)
> Does anyone know if this is the way to keep the best quality ?
Which direction are you trying to go here? Is your main objective to edit
native avchd or achieve best quality?
"Is your main objective to edit
native avchd or achieve best quality?"
Not to put words in his mouth but I imagine both would optimal.
> Not to put words in his mouth but I imagine both would optimal.
I can't be certain, but I may have read this book before, in which case I
know how it ends. Someone asks for "best quality". People start
recommending Cineform CFHD, Sorenson Squeeze, etc, and then we hear the
Peter Griffin impersonation, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa!!! You mean I have to spend more money?" Well, yeah, you did ask for
best quality. And then begins the long sigh and followed by bitter
Of course, I could be thinking of a different book. We'll know soon enough.
I'll bet the first round next week that it's a Quicktime problem, and as soon as Apple get their stuff in one sock, all these issues will go away.
Why do I think that? If I told you, you'd never take the bet and I won't get free beer next week. :)
I'm with Jeff - QT has caused havoc before...
thank you for replying
yes...edit and filter native avchd in premiere
and than convert it (somehow) to qt-photojpeg.
I am planning to use it in a theater-performance with a
Catalyst-v4 videoserver. (which works best with qt-photojpeg
, I wish it was different, but it isn't)
The native avchd is 1920x1080 square pixel.
It would be nice to keep the quality as best as
I guess export the edit from premiere into mpeg2,
import into aftereffects and than into qt, don't you think ?
or is there a better way ?
thank you all
> yes...edit and filter native avchd in premiere
Just to be clear, why do you want to do it this way? Fewer steps? Budget
contraints? If you are limited to the applications and codecs you already
own, fair enough.
> or is there a better way ?
Some will suggest that converting a long GOP codec to a codec designed for
editing is a better way, but if you are limited by budget or other
contraints, the better way may not be an option.
Im not sure what you mean. AVCHD is not designed
for editing ? And I should convert it first to
another codec, before editing ? I did not know that.
If that is what you say. What codec would you suggest ?
(Besides that I still do not understand why
AfterEffect has a good QT output and Premiere's
QT rendering is so horrible)
> Im not sure what you mean. AVCHD is not designed
> for editing ? And I should convert it first to
> another codec, before editing ? I did not know that.
> If that is what you say. What codec would you suggest ?
PPro CS4 supports AVCHD (and HDV) and many Premiere users edit these long
GOP codecs and are perfectly happy. So, it certainly can be done, and
depending on your personal preference, you too very well may be happy with
That said, long GOP codecs are designed for delivery, and when you ask
questions like what is the "best" approach, the question then becomes what
do you mean by best. For some, it means the best approach without spending
any more money. Some Premiere users get extremely agitated at the
suggestion that they should consider the purchase of and conversion to
another codec. The Adobe documentation says you can edit AVCHD, and for
them, that's sufficient justification to avoid considering any other
solution. However, if you are interested in possible ways to enhance your
workflow, you might look at conversion to a codec specifically designed for
editing, such as the Cineform CFHD (free trials can be downloaded from their
website). Some users prefer that approach; others don't. YMMV.
thank you, I will try Cineform.