Yes. I too have the same problem. From what i can tell (just my best guess) it has to do with the progressive scan of 720p. What i hvae been able to figure out is the encoding is progressive.
I have solutions, but not what i want. If i export the video to a standard DVD format and create an ISO file or a DVD Folder, i can use Handbrake to create really good AppleTV and or Ipod Videos.
I am trying to figure out how to create the same using just adobe and not hvae to go outside the CS4 media encoder. So far I have been unsuccessfull.
Let me know if you figure anything out either.
I am having the same green screen flickers. :(
I am trying to use the ipod video small and ipod video large.
iPod videos from 720P?....Seems a waste.
"iPod videos from 720P?....Seems a waste"
Is it a waste to make ipod trailers from 35mm film? It's done all the time.
If your source is 720p why do you have to convert to a different format to go to ipod? Again CS4 two steps forward one step backward. Nowhere on the Adobe site or help does it say you can't make 720p footage into ipod footage.
Does it say it can?
Nowhere in the help does it say ipod renders are restricted to a certain source file resolution and it works fine in cs3. Adobe should have listed all the things in CS4 that don't work like worked in cs3.
Obviously premiere had a lack of new features so they rushed the release to coincide with there 'bread and butter' programs (photoshop, flash and dreamweaver)
Ohh we support AVCHD (but not 720p). Look at our new media browser(doesn't work with 24pa), look our timelines can take all types of footage (but don't expect 24pa to work like it did) also no AAF export and you have to export to media browser to save single stills... I could go on (text to speech)
>Is it a waste to make ipod trailers from 35mm film?
Well, a trailer is not quite the same as the feature, but honestly, yeah I do think it's a waste. The very idea of people screwing up the image presentation by dumbing it down to iPod size is anathema to me.
But, realizing that people will do weird things sometimes, if the goal is iPod, why shoot in HD?
The point of me wanting to encode to iPod/iPhone video is for a video podcast. The audience is subscribing through a feed. I am not distributing a DVD or Blue-Ray. But, that doesn't mean I don't want the best source material.
>.... but honestly, yeah I do think it's a waste. The very idea of people screwing up the image presentation by dumbing it down to iPod size is anathema to me. But, realizing that people will do weird things sometimes, if the goal is iPod, why shoot in HD?
Its all in the source capture as mentioned. (Photography) Far better to start with too much than try and make something out of nothing and I guess we all work with the gear we are blessed with.
If the guys were to shoot with an Ipod (phone) camera , you would be the first to tell them that they should be using a real camera (minidv - tape based that they shot themselves) so they can edit it easily in Premiere. (once they had were Film School trained of course).
>that doesn't mean I don't want the best source material.
Want and need are often different things. There is such a thing as overkill. You wouldn't dig up a dinosaur with a backhoe, would you? Nor does it make sense to shoot in HD for final delivery of lesser quality than even SD, especially if there is a technical problem doing so.
>If the guys were to shoot with an Ipod (phone) camera , you would be the first to tell them that they should be using a real camera (minidv
Yeah, but the other side of that coin is that I'd also be telling them to deliver in no less quality than DVD.
Honestly, Jim, why do you go on? Neither the original nor the second poster (neither or whom, btw, ever reappeared in this thread), said they were not creating DVDs, and then also other exports. Your comment at post 4 was not helpful. The bottom line is that Premiere should be able to produce output for any handheld device if the source files are ones that Premiere handles. If you can help with posters' issues with getting the output they want, fine; if not, why muddy the water?
>Neither the original nor the second poster...said they were not creating DVDs
Actually, Bobby (the third one with this issue) did say that in post 9.
>Your comment at post 4 was not helpful.
That depends on your viewpoint. If you really look at it and take my meaning, that shooting HD for iPod delivery is overkill and unnecessary, it can be very helpful advice, especially if it solves the particular problem being discussed.
>The bottom line is that Premiere should be able to produce output for any handheld device
Well, that's a philosophical point I'd disagree with, but I digress...
Adobe Support has given me a fix for the original topic of this thread... "Premier CS4 and the Media Encoder, problem playing H.264 encoded video in iTunes"
Here is Adobe's actual reply:
]We have identified an issue with QuickTime® 7.5.5. Please try
uninstalling QuickTime 7.5.5 and install a previous version such as 7
.4.5. You can find this previous version at the following URL:
(NOTE: This is a third party webpage and it is in no way supported by
I am still working with them on the issue as this is not a good enough answer. Either Adobe needs to fix their product or Apple needs to fix theirs.
>or Apple needs to fix theirs
Good luck with that. :)
There is another 'solution' that I personally use. Some may not like it, but it does work.
Don't use iTunes/iPods for watching video. Use a proper TV, either SD or HD, depending on your source.
Jim...this big, brave new world is leaving you behind in its dust.
(although maybe you have really long long power cable)
It is indeed, Curt.
I'm very much a person who favors quality over convenience. Not all things newer are better. I generally try and adopt only the better.
Would that I was not a minority on that one.
...definitely... the "trailing edge"
Jim: Have you read Randy Pausch's Book, "The Last Lecture" ??
I will make a point of tracking it down and reading it.
If it is your credo...it will be an interesting read.
Apple seems to break video products with updates to Quicktime. Not only in the past has this affected Adobe Premiere or After Effects, but also Apple Final Cut Pro. I guess it's wise to be aware that the latest update to Quicktime Player may break video applications.
That's stupid. They have a whole program (Device Central) and they can't get it work right with the most popular mobile device with a driver rollback of quicktime.
Nowhere in all the sales literature and videos did I see that CS4 couldn't encode an ipod with 720p.
They bragged about how you can use Adobe Media Encoder to make a DVD, Quicktime, Flash, archive and ipod and still work. An ipod video that originated from film or HD looks better than one that originated from a video phone Jim.
There's probably a work around, "JUST A FEW EXTRA CLICKS"
I tried and downgraded to QuickTime 7.4.5. (See Josh JM, "Premier CS4 and the Media Encoder, problem playing H.264 encoded video in iTunes" #15, 11 Nov 2008 9:43 am). Alas, iTunes insists on QT 7.5.5.
So, I have the choice to either encode media for the iPod. Or, I am able to sync media to the iPod :^|
CS4 encoded iPod file is playing back fine in Quick Time on Mac but not on Quick Time on windows.Also file is playing back fine in Elecard MPEG Player(with AVC plugin). SO it seems that it is an issue with QT on win.
Any thoughts anybody?
>Any thoughts anybody?
I believe it is a QuickTime/H.264 issue. iPod-legal videos that use the H.264 codec from Pr, Sorenson Squeeze 5 and even the lowly CloneDVDMobile will not import into iPods. With iTunes 8, syncing an iPod Touch results in an error message that the video can't be played by that iPod. Syncing a "Classic" 5th-gen iPod doesn't give the user any feedback - the sync just fails.
Encoding the same video for iPod using the MPEG4 codec works as expected in all cases.
Interestingly (and I am being polite by characterizing the situation as "interesting"), iPod video encoded by QuickTime Pro 7.5.5 using the H.264 codec works flawlessly with all iPods in iTunes 8.
Well, I went back the QT 7.4.5 All H.264/Ipod presets worked fine from Premiere Pro CS4.0.1
QT 7.5.5 no good. QT 7.6.0 no good.
Of couse iTunes 8.x now won't run...
Thanks for the update, Andy.
Pretty sad that Adobe has this Device Central for putting media onto phones but they leave out the best selling phone and media player (apple).
Is this an apple problem pr Adobe problem? Or maybe both companies just don't communicate.
What about this as a solution (it might make playback choppy though)
01) Start -> Control Panel -> Display
02) Settings -> Advanced - Troubleshoot
03) Set Hardware Acceleration Slider to midpoint (Disable all DirectDraw and Direct 3D accelerations...)
07) Close Control Panel
Also, which version of quicktime was it that let you export to ipod video and it would resize to 320x240. 7.5.5 keeps the original resolution with no options to adjust it!
I'm having the same issues with H.264 outputting to the crazy green screen flashes. Glad i'm not the only one with the problem, but still frustrated that things are not working...especially because I've been such an Adobe Premiere and AE fan all these years!
After some troubleshooting, I think it certainly has something to do with Quicktime as others have pointed out. Upgrading to QT 7.6 didn't solve anything. But i reinstalled QT 7.3.1 and no flashes!
I tried the same file on 3 other machines running QT 7.5.5 and QT7.6, the green flashes came back.
So yes, both Adobe and Apple need to FIX this ASAP.
I FIGURED IT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We do HD and SD podcasts (iTunes - One-Eyed Doll) and I was having A LOT of these issues!
This is what I do now as a acceptable work-around (at least for me.)
1.) I encode the video using Adobe Encoder at Full HDTV1080p.
2.) I then use iTunes to "Create AppleTV Version" for my 720p HD version
3.) I then use iTunes to "Create iPhone/iPod Version" for my 640p SD Widescreen version.
I hope this help a lot of you out.
I have a client who wants to show the animation I'm editing for her on an iTouch.
I'm on a PC, she's on a Mac.
As this is new territory for me, I have no idea what versions of anything she has, but I just sent her a *.mov file I made with the following settings:
Quicktime, 720x480 DV/DVCPRO NTSC Progressive D1/DV NTSC (0.9091) 29.97 fps, Optimize stills, Quality 100.
The file exported and looks and plays fine. Original material was shot 720x480, single frame stop motion.
I'm letting her do all the conversions as I have neither iTunes nor QT Pro.
Does this thread mean I'm going to get a call tomorrow telling me it didn't work?
Can someone please fill in the details of what I should be asking/looking for at her end to get this to work if she has a problem?
I am having the same issues as stated above with the flickers and green flashes. I am running Version 7.5.5.
Here's one thing that seemed to help:
Go into to Control Panel and open "QuickTime". Under "Advanced" and "Video" choose "Safe mode" instead of DirectX.
Like I said, it helped somewhat, but still isn't completely smooth playback.
I am having the problem as well with Quicktime 7.6.2. Updated to latest Nvidia drivers. No go - green screen flashes and herky jerky video. This has been a problem for months. Why hasn't this been fixed?! After I uploaded a video to Youtube, you download an MP4 version of your own video and it looks ok, and it does not have the issue, but I need a bit higher bit rate. So an online video encoder can process a video file better than Adobe's Media Encoder CS4? Whether Adobe is using a bad encoder that Quicktime doesn't like, or Apple is doing this to force you to use their encoder, it doesn't matter we just need it fixed.
And with respect to the other comments, I shoot in hi-def and then put the videos online, these need to be small enough to load and play quickly, but still maintain quality. 480x270 seems to be a good median for widescreen. With Hulu and Netflix streaming many people don't watch DVD's anymore
Having customers back down versions isn't a reasonable solution, just like us having to back down versions as well. Unfortunately, if you're using the newest generation itouch, you have to use version 9 of itunes which requires 7.6.4 of QT, you can't go backwards. If you try to use the older version, itunes won't work. If you back down the itunes, you can't use the itouch. not good.
I too have done the AVI over to QT and then rerender. The file ends up bigger and clarity isn't there. it doesn't seem right that we've spent lots of money to use CS4 and we have to spend more time rendering for a lesser result.
it doesn't seem right that we've spent lots of money to use CS4 and we have to spend more time rendering for a lesser result.
Have you contacted Apple with your concerns? That would be my first course of action.
Back a bit, the QT 7.4.x problems broke most things Adobe. People got up in arms, and finally Apple came out with 7.5.5, which worked well with most things (if not all things) Adobe. Apple did not seem to learn from the 7.4.x debacle and it appears that they have "done it again."
Think about this for a moment. Adobe programs worked well with QT 7.3.5, but not with the then newer 7.4.x series. Apple fixed that with 7.5.5, but broke things again with 7.6.3 and the newer iTunes. Not sure where you see Adobe figuring into this. There programs seem to work with every other major version, and it's Apple that breaks things. Maybe they could actually test their programs against Adobe's. What a novel idea.