13 Replies Latest reply on Oct 6, 2009 3:49 PM by chaosdsmFL

    PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering

    Level 1
      Dear all,

      I just purchased Premier Elements 7 in order to edit an interview into small segments.

      After trimming the file, I go to SHARE in order to export files for viewing on computer.

      Now, I have tried many different file types, such as wmv, avi, quicktime, flv - and all of them have the same issues. The rendering goes smooth but once I play back the file, I notice that there are parts of the video that have errors such as at one point, the video would do a mirror effect. Or at other times, patches of green boxes would show up all over the screen.
      These errors are only there for a split second, but very very noticeable.

      Note: The original master file is perfectly fine however.

      Can someone please help and advise?

      Thanks.
      Seth
        • 1. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
          Paul_LS Level 4
          What format is your source file? You may need to convert it to DV-AVI.
          • 2. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
            Level 1
            Hi Paul,

            The source file is in some format called .mod - it was made through a brand new JVC camera.

            So should I be converting it all to DV-AVI first?
            • 3. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
              Level 1
              OK, While waiting, I converted my source file to DV-AVI, and still no joy. Still getting the same problems.
              • 4. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
                Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional
                Uh oh. A JVC Everio, right? They can be a challenge to work with.

                How did you convert the MOD file? If you're not using the right program with the right settings, you are going to have problems with your output.

                Have you tried using the MOD file directly into a Premiere Elements project using the Hard Drive/Flash Drive Camcorder project preset?
                • 5. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
                  Level 1
                  Hi Grisetti Steve,

                  Yes, it is a JVC Everio model no. MG-335H

                  I converted the MOD file using default settings in Premier Elements. For example, putting the file into timeline, and then going to File-Export-Movie.

                  I am not sure about using project presets yet, how does that work?
                  • 6. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
                    Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional
                    Using Premiere Elements to convert your file won't work, of course, unless you're using the right project settings.

                    Start a new project and, at the option screen where you name your project, click on the Change Settings button. This will take you to an option screen of project presets. Open the folder for Hard Disk/Flash Memory Camcorders and choose the standard 48 khz option.

                    Load your MOD files into that project. You can even load a test clip in and File/Export/Movie from there (don't change any output settings) and check to see if it's giving you good results.

                    As I've said, Everio files are a unique challenge, but this should work if anything does.

                    Otherwise, here's more information on Everios from David Ezzy, from the FAQs at the top of this forum.
                    http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bc1265c

                    But before you use his advice (which was written for an earlier version of the software) see if that project preset alone solves your problem. Don't mix the two solutions.
                    • 7. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
                      Robert J. Johnston Level 2
                      Some people are deleting the ImporterFastMpeg.prm file that is in the Plug-ins folder. That will definitely fix problems with MOD files.

                      Instead of deleting the file, just add your initials or name to the end of the filename extension, such as ImporterFastMpeg.prm.seth. Don't try changing just the basename or moving the file somewhere else, because that won't work.

                      The path to that file on my machine is:

                      C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Elements 7.0\Plug-ins\en_US

                      Give it a try, if it doesn't work you can restore the name of the file.
                      • 8. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
                        Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional
                        This is a great solution, Robert! I'll tag it onto the FAQ.
                        • 9. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
                          Robert J. Johnston Level 2
                          I first saw this solution mentioned by Chuck who found out about it by John "Twosheds," if I recall correctly.
                          • 10. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
                            Level 1
                            Hi Robert,

                            Your advice really helped the fix my problem witht he quality issue. Thanks.

                            On the other hand, this Everio is still causing me problems, and now in the form of the aspect ratio of the videos.

                            Even tho I am recording in a 16:9 ratio, when being viewed on the computer, they have a very "boxed" ratio. I tried to fix the aspect ratio through Premier Elements, but instead of fixing the ratio, I am now getting black bars on the side to compensate. It's not really what a want.

                            Am I overlooking something?
                            • 11. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
                              Robert J. Johnston Level 2
                              Seth,

                              It's not clear how you "fixed" the asspect ratio problem in Premiere Elements. And I don't know what project preset you are using.

                              You should have started with a widescreen project preset under the "Hard Disk and Flash Memory Camcorders" group. Make sure you pick the correct video standard (PAL/NTSC).

                              After you are in the workspace and have added your clips, to fix the aspect ratio problem, select the Edit tab and then the Project tab. Then right-click on the clip in the Project bin. There should be an "Interpret Footage" menu item that you can select from the popup menu. Select the 16:9 ratio for your video standard (PAL/NTSC).

                              Don't turn off Scale to Frame Size.

                              What settings did you select for Share? You need to pay attention to the pixel aspect ratio. If it is square (1.0) then you can't use 720x480 (NTSC) or 720x576(PAL). It would have to be a ratio of 16:9, such as 720x405.
                              • 12. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
                                chaosdsmFL Level 1

                                After trying PE7 (Trial Version) & being dissapointed, I'm now trying PE8 (Trial Version) & am still being dissapointed  

                                 

                                The finished quality in PE8 is a little better, & I'm not getting any random issues like green pixels.  My main problem is the aspect ratio.

                                 

                                My camera is a JVC Everio GZMC-500 which records straight to Compact Flash/MicroDrive.  I'm sure that part of the problem lies within JVC's implementation of the .mod format, it's designed specificly to work with Cyberlink's Power Director / Power Producer products.   And it works GREAT with those products, however, I would prefer to use Premier Elements instead.

                                 

                                For those that don't know, or don't realize, many of the Everio camcorders shoot a compressed 1080i format.  In other words, it achieves a 1920x1080 resolution (16:9) by compressing that output into a 1440x1080 (4:3) format.  When importing the files into Premier Elements, they only open in 1440x1080 (4:3) format.  I've been trying for 2 days to get it to import or output as 1920x1080 with no luck.

                                 

                                I've tried a "New Project" with every possible NTSC selection for the input file type, they all import as 4:3 & output as 16:9 with black bars on the sides.

                                 

                                Here's an old video clip I did using Power Director.  Simply opened the program, imported the video, cliped it, & saved it.

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM1_ipzMrss

                                 

                                And here is a video I did this morning with PE8 (if you couldn't tell)

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fuwjam0Se0

                                 

                                I'd much rather buy the PSE8 / PE8 bundle than have to buy PSE8 & Power Director seperately... but that rides 100% on getting the proper 16:9 output without the black bars.   Any suggestions???

                                • 13. Re: PE7: Video has random quality problems after rendering
                                  chaosdsmFL Level 1

                                  Finally figured out the solution using PE8!!!

                                   

                                  1> After importing the video clip under the apropriate 1440x1080i setting for a hard drive/flash media based recorder, drag the clip to the timeline.

                                  2> Right click on the clip in timeline & select "Show Properties"

                                  3> click the "Motion" drop down arrow to open the motion options.

                                  4> Uncheck the box marked "Uniform Scale"

                                  5> click the "100.0" to the far Right of the heading "Scale Width" & enter 131.5 & hit enter.

                                   

                                  Here's the result:

                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPGmMicMyUghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxfTW57Mj30

                                   

                                  Gone are all the problems I had in PE7

                                   

                                  Message was edited by: chaosdsmFL - corrected video link