5 Replies Latest reply on Mar 23, 2009 11:59 AM by Barb__O

    Best way to create slide shows in PE4 and PSE 6

      What's the best way to create a fancy slide show in PE 4 and PSE 6? I need to create a slide show of about 600 pictures. I'm on Windows XP with 3gb RAM. I've done this a few years ago in earlier versions of PE and PSE. Before i plunge into this again i wanted to get some overall guidance for what to do or not do.

      My ultimate goal is to create a slide show that:
      1. uses pan and zoom on every photo
      2. transitions between every photo
      3. has an audio track
      4. has some nice special effects -- words and graphics that appear on slide at precisely the right moment to match the song, and stay on the screen as one slide transitions to another. i want the text to be able to move and fade in and out.

      My view is that it's easy to accomplish #1-3 in PSE 6; it's quite simple to create a slide show, add pan and zoom, and transitions. However, #4 is not doable because adding text and graphics can only be done on a slide at a time and only when the slide start/stops (i.e., you can't have text appear 2 secs after the slide has started displaying and stay on screen while the next slide appears). Need PE 4 to do that.

      What i'm wondering is:
      -- is it best to create the basic slide show in PSE6 and then export to PE 4 to do the final fancy stuff, or is it best to just create the show in PE4? Seems that doing the pans, zooms, and transitions are easiest in PSE 6.
        • 1. Re: Best way to create slide shows in PE4 and PSE 6
          Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional
          As I said in your other post, Eric, you'll want to size the photos to 1000x750 pixels and do your preliminary work in Photoshop Elements, then finish it in Premiere Elements.

          My Steve's Tips article for Muvipix.com goes into details of what's available and how to do it, if you're interested.
          http://muvipix.com/products.php?subcat_id=7
          • 2. Re: Best way to create slide shows in PE4 and PSE 6
            Level 1
            Steve,
            thanks! as i recall from my work a few years ago, you single-handly saved me from disaster and frustration with some of your postings and responses. You were a God-send then (and i'm sure you still are).

            It seems to me a good way to do this would be:

            1. gather all photos in PSE
            2. resize them all and reimport into PSE (i guess i'll need to do larger than 1000 x 750 if i want to do pans and zooms?)
            3. create basic slide show with pans and zooms and audio in PSE
            4. export to PE and finish by adding some fancy titles, etc.

            Here's what's troubling me:

            I want to start my project now but i don't have all the photos yet. So, i'm thinking i could:

            1. layout the slide show and whatever music i have in PSE
            2. export to PE and do the fancy work on the slide i do have
            3. as new photos arrive, do the arrangement/pans/zooms in PSE and move them to PE

            But if do that, how does the export to PE work? i can't export the entire show because it will ovelay what i did before and ruin all the work in did in PE. can i "incrementally export? or something?

            I will study the link you sent me.
            • 3. Re: Best way to create slide shows in PE4 and PSE 6
              Level 1
              I subscribed to Muvipix and checked out various items at muvipix (thanks, Steve) and they were helpful. It seems that the basic work of arranging slides and creating pans and zooms is way easier to do in PSE 6 than in PE 4.

              i'm still struggling to figure out my workflow if i don't have all my photos at the start. how can i get started on this project now, with only some of my photos, using the ease of use in PSE, but work on it incrementally between PSE and PE?

              Let's say i do this:
              1. gather the photos i have and resize them in PSE
              2. put them into the PE Organizer and create a slide show. Use pans and zooms.
              3. Add the sound track for the ENTIRE slide show (this will be longer than i currently have slides for because i don't have all the photos
              4. export to PE and do some fancy stuff
              5. What happens when i get the next batch of photos and want to do the prep work in PSE -- can i get the photos (with pans and zooms) over to PE 4 and add them to the existing project?
              • 4. Re: Best way to create slide shows in PE4 and PSE 6
                Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional
                Yes, you can keep making new slideshows in Photo Elements and then porting them over to Premiere Elements. It should just keep adding them to the same project's timeline, one after another.
                • 5. Re: Best way to create slide shows in PE4 and PSE 6
                  Barb__O Level 4
                  eric,

                  I am going to offer some reasons NOT to start this slide show in Photoshop Elements. This is despite the fact that I have used the workflow of starting in Photoshop Elements and used the Send Slideshow to Premiere Elements in PSE5 - PE 3 and PSE7 - PE7.

                  1- Timing differences between the PSE and PE slide show construction and processing

                  There are many differences in timing between the two products. Transitions can start/end slightly offset from their timing in PSE once they arrive and are processed in PE. Same for pan and zoom. Does this matter? Well the more precise your timing, the more potential for a show stopper.

                  Example: one person who wanted continual motion using pan and zoom needed to go modify the transition positioning and the keyframing of the pan/zooms on every single slide after sending a slideshow from PSE to PRE.

                  2- your requirement to
                  "words and graphics that appear on slide at precisely the right moment to match the song, and stay on the screen as one slide transitions to another. i want the text to be able to move and fade in and out."

                  You can't really sync the audio to a slide in PSE. The text can't move or fade in/out. I think that it will be more grief to retrofit these functions to a slide show that was created in PSE than it will be to do the all the work in Premiere Elements.

                  3- "Add the sound track for the ENTIRE slide show (this will be longer than i currently have slides for because i don't have all the photos"

                  I am suspicious that adding the ENTIRE sound track in one PSE slide show will not work.

                  I have done multiple sends from PSE slide show editor to Premiere Elements. However, I decided on the approach of using no audio in the PSE slideshow editor and adding Audio in Premiere Elements AFTER sending all the slide shows.

                  Again, your objective of syncing specific photos to music points is good artistically - but I am concerned that it will make your PSE to PRE workflow problematic.

                  4- "as new photos arrive, do the arrangement/pans/zooms in PSE and move them to PE"

                  As Steve mentioned when you do subsequent sends of the slideshow, it appends to the end - does not seem to fit your objective of replacing part of the middle.

                  Also if you get new photos in for the second section of the slideshow - but over in Premiere Elements you had already made other changes in the second section. There is no function to combine new changes doen in PSE and changes done in PE for that same "section" of the slideshow.

                  5- you did not say whether you will be outputting this slide show in Full Screen or Widescreen format. Will you be burning a DVD? If you will be doing widescreen output, additional problems with specifying pan/zoom in PSE have been identified on various forums because the PSE pan/zoom boxes are not widescreen aspect ratio.

                  Conclusion:

                  Some of my comments here are definitely subjective - however, it is my overall conclusion that your objectives and work plan are not a good fit for the Photoshop Elements slide show editor to Premiere Elements workflow.

                  My perspective on the Photoshop Elements slide show editor is that it is designed to simple, quick and easy. Therefore it has limitations.