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You can enable the PDF to be saveable in Reader if you have Acrobat Pro version 8. Other than that, you're out of luck. It also has a 500 use limit for each form.
The IRS uses a more spendy Adobe product/service. There are no usage limits to their forms.
saving a PDF from Adobe Reader
Thank you so much for the information. I have Acrobat 7. I think I have to pay for an update, so I'll have to talk to my boss about that.
What would I need to in Acrobat 8 after I install it? How is Acrobat 8 different from Acrobat 7? Does it just encrypt the pdf differently so that they are automatically able to be saved in Reader. If I am making any sense. Thank you so much for any help you can give!
>What would I need to in Acrobat 8 after I install it?
Pretty much the same thing you're doing in 7 Pro. There may be some minor GUI differences but no more than normal when you go to a new version. Create your form fields that you want filled in and when you're finished, you simply choose the option to enable the file and you're done.
I am having the same issue...i'm wanting to create a form in Acrobat Pro 8 and distribute it to my clients who are using Reader. I would like them to submit a pdf of the form by email and be able to save the form with the data still included.
From what I've read, Acrobat Pro 8 is not able to allow Reader to save the data. You have to purchase LiveCycle Reader Extensions to enable the interactive features such as saving.
Is this true? I could totally be missing something...and i really hope i am :)
thanks for your help!!
>From what I've read, Acrobat Pro 8 is not able to allow Reader to save the data.
Then you've read the wrong thing. It will enable a PDF so that Reader users can save their data in the PDF.
It's worth mentioning again that there is a 500 use limit per form so it's not a good solution for corporate use. If you need more than that then yes, LiveCycle Extensions would be your answer.
>From what I've read, Acrobat Pro 8 is not able to allow Reader to save the data.
Where did you read that. Can you give a reference?
I was looking in the Adobe LiveCycle Designer Help...this was what was throwing me off:
[When users have Adobe Reader, they can open a form in PDF from the network file system, fill it online, submit the data, and print it, or print and fill the form by hand. Adobe Reader cannot save changes to PDF files. Even when Adobe Reader is used to view an interactive PDF form, users may interact with the objects and enter data, but they will not be able to save the data.
LiveCycle Reader Extensions allows you to extend Adobe Reader by enabling interactive features that were previously available only when end users opened PDF documents in the full version of Acrobat.]
Then I realized that I was just saving my pdf form instead of using the "distribute form" button.
I think I've figured out my issue...thanks for you help!
Carolyn: Thanks so much for your response. So are you saying that you realized you were saving your pdf form instead of using the "distribute form" button in Acrobat or LiveCycle? Are you using the actual LiveCycle program or the LiveCycle Reader Extensions? I just need to know what to tell my boss what I need to purchase. I am just exporting the PDF incorrectly from Acrobat 7?
Also, it seems the Reader Extensions would have to be downloaded by each user for Reader. Is there a way that I can create a fill-in PDF in Acrobat that others can fill-in and save in Reader from their computer without having any extensions, plug-ins, etc.
I just cant wrap my head around this problem.
Thank you everyone!
>Is there a way that I can create a fill-in PDF in Acrobat that others can fill-in and save in Reader from their computer without having any extensions, plug-ins, etc.
Yes but it requires Acrobat Pro 8. You can enable the file to be saved from there.
so you were saying like before I need Acrobat 8. Do i also need LiveCycle Extensions?? Or Acrobat 8 will just allow the pdf to be saved in Reader? maybe i just need a step by step list because my head isnt wrapping around this. thanks again!
>Do i also need LiveCycle Extensions?
LiveCycle Extensions for Reader is a corporate aimedserver product that costs into the tens of thousands of dollars so forutunately you won't need it. :)
>Or Acrobat 8 will just allow the pdf to be saved in Reader?
All you need to do is create the form in Acrobat 8 Pro, then there is a selection in one of the menus that you choose to enable the form. That's all there is to it.
Keep in mind that each form is only allowed to be used up to 500 times.
>Also, it seems the Reader Extensions would have to be downloaded by each user for Reader.
Reader Extensions is not something the end user installs. It is a one
of process of "extending" a PDF so that Reader has more power.
sorry my email was down yesterday.
I understand your confusion Julie. you may have already figured out your problem...but here is what i did
I opened my form in Acrobat 8 Pro and edited it (made check boxes, drop down menus, fill in areas, etc) by using Adobe LiveCycle Designer (not Extensions). LiveCycle is already included in Acobat 8 Pro. To get into LiveCycle you go to Forms in the Menu bar and click on "Edit Form in Designer"
From there I clicked on Distribute Form. This is where I was having my issues. Before I was just going to File Save which does not let Reader save or email the filled out pdf back to the sender. But Distribute Form does allow those things.
Hope that helps.
1. What versions of Reader are able to open up a form created to fill in and save? I know people in my office are probably working on older versions...so I wanted to know if i needed to tell them to upgrade.
2. When you say there is a 500 use limit...is it possible to update the form and redistribute it for another 500 uses?
>To get into LiveCycle you go to Forms in the Menu bar and click on "Edit Form in Designer"
I think that's where Adobe has made things confusing for the average user. LiveCycle Designer is just one of many LiveCycle products.
If you want a form that is saveable, my suggestion is to build the form in Acrobat 8 (not LiveCycle Designer) then enable it from there. Quick and easy.
>1. What versions of Reader are able to open up a form created to fill in and save?
version 7 or above.
>2. When you say there is a 500 use limit...is it possible to update the form and redistribute it for another 500 uses?
Technically, you could yes. In fact, the it's not like the form will quit working after that many uses or anything. Now, whether that's in line with the user agreement is a different story. I've heard some yes's and some no's.
Personally, if you feel that you are going to be regularly breaking that limit, you're more than the average form users and should look into LiveCycle Extensions for Reader.
Thanks again for all this help. You said above that I can create a saveable PDF in Acrobat 7 or higher? I have Acrobat 7 and have already made the fill-in pdf in Acrobat 7 and it is not saveable in Reader. Do you know the steps to make a saveable fill-in pdf in Acrobat 7? Because I have tried every avenue I know to do so in 7. Or do I just need to get Acrobat 8 that you said I needed before. Thanks!
and when I talk about Acrobat 7, I mean Acrobat 7 Professional.
>You said above that I can create a saveable PDF in Acrobat 7 or higher?
No. You need 8 Pro to make the form saveable.
You asked what version of Reader that users would need. That would be version 7 (of Reader) or higher.
ok great. ill get back to you when i get Acrobat 8. Thanks again.
I have a similar issue...
I have Acrobat 8 Pro that I have used to create a number of pdf's. My fillable forms work nicely, but people can only save blank copies to their computer. I would like to enable them to save filled out copies, using Adobe reader--is this possible? Any help is greatly appreciated (and yes, I do know that there is a 500 copy limit, which is no problem). Thanks!
Use Advanced>Enable Usage rights in Adobe Reader.
The Acrobat help files would have given you that answer in the time it took to post.
Ahh, yes, thanks for the sarcasm... :) I didn't use the appropriate language when looking in the help files (I'm new to Adobe writer); I found the proper language while searching the forum. Thanks for the help.
> Ahh, yes, thanks for the sarcasm...
You're welcome. It's always free around here.
Is there anyway to save a PDF document to Word? I am trying to save a document that Massachusetts produces that can be saved as a PDF file but cannot be filled in and saved as a PDF file. I want to duplicate the form in Word and fill it in that way, but when I save the text to word, it does not layout the same as the original document. Is there a way to do an image save that would allow me to fill in in word? I am working with Adobe 6.0 Reader.
not with reader.
No unfortunately, you cannot create anything like that in Word. If you can get your hands on Adobe Acrobat that is the only way you can create something called a Fill-In PDF in Acrobat. Good luck!
This is my first attempt with Acrobat 8.0 (mac) to create and distribute a form. I have inserted the necessary boxes for responding and the "submit form" button, but cannot enable the "distribute" selection on Acrobat. It is listed on the menu in the unselectable gray color rather than the selectable black. Am I missing something simple here?
Best to ask that in the Acrobat forum. This is the forum for the free Reader.
You are missing the Acrobat Mac forum where you question belongs. This
forum is reserved for questions about using Reader.
will take you where you
should repost your question. This is where the people most likely to
answer your question hang out and where other people who have a similar
problem to yours will hopefully in the future find your question and
someone else's answer.
You need to create the form in Adobe Acrobat 8.
Before saving the form: Goto Advanced Menu and Enable Usage rights in Adobe Reader
Forms created like this can be filled-in and saved in Acrobat Reader