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>If the function has been removed froorm Reader 9
It hasn't been. More than likely it has been removed from the PDF. There have been a few threads about this topic and it sounds like they (the IRS) are changing the way the work with Adobe lately.
The technology that the IRS used is no longer supported by Adobe in
Reader 9. Either the IRS has to update their software and regenerate all
their files or you need to downgrade to Reader 8.1.2.
Thanks Mike. Shame that Adobe thinks the problem is with the IRS. How do I downgrade to a product that has useable functions.
> How do I downgrade to a product that has useable functions.
Uninstall Adobe Reader 9 and install Adobe Reader 8.1.2.
I think this is pure greed on Adobe's part. I believe this feature is still in Acrobat but removed from Reader 9. They want you to buy the acrobat product instead. I'm fully moving to http://www.pdfill.com/
>They want you to buy the acrobat product instead
As explained vefore, they want the IRS to buy the upgrade to the LiveCycle product that creates these types of forms.
(of course I'm sure they wouldn't mind if you bought the full product)
Thanks for the comments. I agree Adobe 'wants' folk to buy the full product. You might want to look at PDF995 here http://www.pdf995.com/
All three products are available as FREE downloads. The free versions display a sponsor page in your web browser each time you run the software. If you would prefer not to see sponsor pages, you may upgrade by obtaining individual keys for each product at any time for $9.95 each. A suite key sold for all three products is also available for $19.95. Purchasing also entitles you to email support by software engineers (12-hour response time).
I have NO problems with paying $9.95.
Check it out.
It will convert EVERY file type to a PDF.
I looked at the PDF995 suite. No where did it say it handles forms.
try http://www.pdfill.com/. they certainly claim to handle forms but i have to state that i haven't tried the forms feature. i have tried to crop feature and it works very nicely if not exactly automated.
PDF995 allows you to 'print' a form to that application PDF995. You use that facility to save the form that's been completed.
Not sure why you say,"I looked at the PDF995 suite. No where did it say it handles forms."
Printing a form to pdf is not the same as saving a pdf with the data
filled in to the forms. Filled in forms can be processed by Acrobat to
export the data from the forms and processed in a spreadsheet or database.
i Printing a form to pdf is not the same as saving a pdf with the data
i filled in to the forms.
actually this is not true in general. the data gets into the pdf as a single unit so it's very much alike.
i Filled in forms can be processed by Acrobat to
i export the data from the forms and processed in a spreadsheet or
and this can be accomplished from filled in pdfs by using any of the PDF-PERL packages to extract the contents and save them to anywhere you want.
>and this can be accomplished from filled in pdfs by using any of the PDF-PERL packages to extract the contents and save them to anywhere you want.
But not after they've been printed to PDF. When you do that, the PDF is "flattened". You can't change what you have in it and you can't "extract" information from it. It essentially is no longer a form.
you mean pdf2ps stops working? what an odd thing to say. you may have to do some parsing but you can still "extract" all you want.
>you mean pdf2ps stops working?
I meant no such thing. I think you're just misunderstanding a few of the posters here and what we're trying to say.
What I'm saying is, once you reprint the form to a new PDF, the form fields are not recognizable on their own any more. They hold no more importance than the rest of the document.
>you may have to do some parsing
Sure. You probably could but man, that sounds like a ton of work separating the former form data from all the other text on the form. I don't see the point. It would be way easier just to fill the form out by hand and mail it in.
This is crap. It just sounds like Adobe is cashing in... playing the Microsoft card... whatever you want to call it. I used to be able to create a certificate template for my clients using forms in Acrobat Pro and they could fill in recipients names etc and save and print using reader. Now? Now they will need this that and the other thing. On one post I read on this subject somene mentioned importing XML. What? No. Adobe is going the route of Quark Xpress... developing in a bubble, pissing off their loyal clientele by limiting capabilities. This was THE reason I transfered everything to InDesign. Careful Adobe.
>I used to be able to create a certificate template for my clients using forms in Acrobat Pro and they could fill in recipients names etc and save and print using reader.
You can still do that. Not sure what the problem is or why you're in a huff. You simply enable the forms using Acrobat Pro just like you did in the last version.
It's strictly the LiveCycle Extensions for Reader product/service which I can reasonably assume you've never used(due to the price tag only) that needs to be upgraded by the corporate users.
What do I need to do differently from the last time I did this to make it happen. Enable the forms?
Yes. You simply need to go to Advanced>Enable usage rights for Reader users...
That's not an option for selection. This is Mac OSX.
> This is Mac OSX.
Doesn't matter. It's available in both versions.
> That's not an option for selection.
What do you mean? Do you mean that the selection just isn't there or it's there but grayed out or....?
What version of Adobe Acrobat do you have?