11 Replies Latest reply on Oct 21, 2008 9:47 AM by (Ross_Decker)

    64 bit AE??

    XxMontyxX Level 1
      What's the deal with 64-bit support for After Effects CS4 for Vista 64-bit? Memory and management info says that 64-bit is supported with up to 4 Gb of Ram right out of the box. Shouldn't 64-bit computing be able to handle much more than that?

      Let's say I have an 8-core PC with 32 Gb of Ram, can this not be fully utilized in CS4?

      I'm just looking for some clarity on 64-bit support for CS4.
        • 1. Re: 64 bit AE??
          Andrew Yoole MVP & Adobe Community Professional
          AE CS4 will run on 64 bit OS's, but like most CS4 products is still a 32 bit application.

          Memory limits, and the use of additional RAM through multiprocessing, is the same in CS3 and CS4, but CS4 has better control of RAM and CPU usage through extended preferences.

          Presumably, AE will not be rebuilt as a 64 bit app until CS5 - around 2010.
          • 2. Re: 64 bit AE??
            Mylenium Most Valuable Participant
            >I'm just looking for some clarity on 64-bit support for CS4.

            In so many words: It doesn't exist. Beyond what Andrew already explained, there are no significant changes in CS4 on that end. The only Adobe apps supporting native 64 bit at this point are/ will be Lightroom 2 and Photoshop CS4.

            Mylenium
            • 3. Re: 64 bit AE??
              Level 1
              >> Presumably, AE will not be rebuilt as a 64 bit app until CS5 - around 2010 <<

              Sad, but understandable. I hope they make public betas available in a decent time frame to flesh out as many of the bugs as possible.
              • 4. Re: 64 bit AE??
                Jonas Hummelstrand Level 2
                Remember that every single plugin for AE will probably break and have to be re-written for 64-bit, so be careful what you wish for! :)

                - Jonas Hummelstrand
                http://generalspecialist.com/
                • 5. Re: 64 bit AE??
                  David Wigforss-Hv1BNN Level 2
                  Yes, they will need to be recompiled for x64. When AE 64 arrives, expect 2 flavors of plugins, 32bit/64bit, probably requiring upgrades.
                  • 6. Re: 64 bit AE??
                    DVDmike Level 1
                    Running AE CS3 on XP64 and I can report that since it is a 32 bit app almost all plug-ins work. Red Giant plugins, most of them anyway, are the BIG exception. I only have 8GB on my XP64 system, but Nucleo apparently uses more than 4GB of ram during renders when needed with 8 logical processors.
                    • 7. Re: 64 bit AE??
                      Andrew Yoole MVP & Adobe Community Professional
                      ^ That's correct. They are 32 bit plugins running in 32 bit AE.

                      The issue is that, once After Effects is compiled as a 64bit application, all plugins will then need to be recompiled in 64bit code as well. Much like the changeover of Macs to Intel from Power PC, when all plugins needed to be rebuilt in order to run natively on an Intel Mac.
                      • 8. Re: 64 bit AE??
                        Give a non geek the hard facts.

                        I am buying a new system for CS4, mostly AE:

                        Dual Quad Intel Xeon X5482 3.20 12MB/1600
                        16GB(8x2GB)DDR2-800 ECC FBD Memory
                        64bit

                        Is this going to work or am I asking for headaches?

                        Should I go with 32bit for now?

                        Vista or XP??? Is Vista Ultimate better than Business?
                        • 9. Re: 64 bit AE??
                          David Wigforss-Hv1BNN Level 2
                          Nice system! I'd go Vista 64. Not sure of the differences between Ultimate and Business (is that Enterprise?). Ultimate might have some probably unneeded features.

                          What video card are you gonna get? I dunno how it is outside of games, but I've heard great things about the latest ATI cart - 4750, or something like that. Probably around $150-$200 and it has great performance. I'm planning to upgrade to that from my ATI 2600 on Black Friday...
                          • 10. Re: 64 bit AE??
                            Mylenium Most Valuable Participant
                            The system specs sound fine. The question of the graphics card is an open matter. David has a point, but unfortunately it seems that ATI's drivers are not up to snuff and thus their powerhouse cards do not work correctly with Adobe programs. At least in the Photoshop forum there's a ton of posts reporting that PS CS4 does not provide hardware acceleration with these cards...

                            Mylenium
                            • 11. Re: 64 bit AE??
                              Level 1
                              Quadra 4600

                              Thanks for your reply