12 Replies Latest reply on Apr 27, 2009 1:09 PM by bertrenolds

    Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?

      This could easily be posted in the Premiere forum as well. Wasn't sure where to start.

      I have a premiere sequence. I'd like to make some edits in after effects and easily have them available again in premiere.

      Can anyone tell me the easiest way, or point me to a url?

      Thanks so much,
        • 1. Re: Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?
          Level 1
          BTW. I had tried going into After effects and importing the project file from Premiere. Made my changes but when I go back in to Premiere and try to import the AEP file, I receive an error program terminated abnormally.

          I am using CS3.
          • 2. Re: Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?
            Mylenium Most Valuable Participant
            Taking stuff back to Premiere only functions by ways of Dynamic Link (Import) or rendered clips. You cannot open AE projects directly. for Dynamic Link to function properly, the sizes of the AE comps should match the project setings in Premiere. You should also be aware that because of the differences between programs and specifics of some plugins, you will not be able to use them in both programs, thus sometimes really having to render clips out of AE.

            Mylenium
            • 3. Re: Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?
              Level 1
              Thanks for you reply. OK, so typically my process is to take raw footage off a camera. Create a project in Premiere and perform all of my cuts. Then I feel the need to add some changes using After Effects. What is the best way to go from Premiere to After Effects?

              One thing I noticed when I tried importing a Premiere project in After Effects is that although the composition resolution was stated as the same, the monitor window showed a squished image width wise.
              • 4. Re: Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?
                Level 1
                Should this be posted in the Premiere forums?
                • 5. Re: Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?
                  Jonas Hummelstrand Level 2
                  Have you looked in the manual?

                  i http://livedocs.adobe.com/en_US/AfterEffects/8.0/WS3878526689cb91655866c1103906c6dea-7f47 .html

                  Also, sounds like you need to read up on Pixel Aspect Ratio and the "Toggle Pixel Aspect Ratio Correction" button:
                  i http://livedocs.adobe.com/en_US/AfterEffects/8.0/WS3878526689cb91655866c1103906c6dea-7f3a .html

                  - Jonas Hummelstrand
                  http://generalspecialist.com/
                  • 6. Re: Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?
                    Level 1
                    The pixel issue is really secondary to this and I will find that answer in another post....but thank you for responding.

                    My major issue is what is the general procedure for performing edits in After Effects on a Premiere sequence.

                    Perhaps my question is not phrased correctly. I just believed this was a simple question.
                    • 7. Re: Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?
                      Level 1
                      BTW, my first post uses the same procedures in the manual. I guess I am fine with doing an import rather than some sort of integrated dynamic link or direct edit of the Premiere sequence. That's fine. But when I try to re-import the after effects into Premiere I receive that error posted above. Abnormal exit.

                      Hmm, perhaps I should just be directly editing clips imported into Premiere. It seems kind of backwards since I may only need to add effects to a very small segment of the clip in Premiere. It always seemed logical to bring in the entire clip into Premiere...perform edits and then add effects. Thinking about it more now, the premiere edits would not be included on the resident clip if I were to import that directly.

                      Please help...scratching my head doesn't seem to work :-)
                      • 8. Re: Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?
                        bogiesan-gyyClL Level 3
                        > This could easily be posted in the Premiere forum as well. Wasn't sure where to start.

                        You start with the manuals and the tutorials. Do not post this same question in the Premiere forum.

                        > I have a premiere sequence. I'd like to make some edits in after effects and easily have them available again in premiere.

                        After Effects is not and editing application. You use AE for effects and compositing; marrying elements and creating stuff that cannot be done in Premiere.

                        bogiesan
                        • 9. Re: Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?
                          Level 1
                          So what are we saying? Practically speaking, do users start in Premiere and make their cut edits first and then take clips and work in After Effects?
                          • 10. Re: Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?
                            dansch37 Level 2

                            I think i understand what you are asking. The answer is like the other guy said. Premier is the tool to edit video-to cut and splice the time. Then when you are all done, you take it into after effects to put the final touches on, then export the final movie. If you try to edit and splice time in After effects, it will do it but it may hang up or crash if you try to do too much. and the same goes the other way, you can do special effects in Premier also but youll find that they may not have the bells and whistles/ease of use that AE has.

                             

                            So basically their features overlap alot but probably best to first do all the timeline work you can in premier and then import into AE to add effects and export final movie.

                            • 11. Re: Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?
                              yenaphe Level 4

                              It is worth noting that the dynamic link feature is only available as part of the Production Premium Suite or the Master Collection Suite.

                               

                              If you do not have the suite, the best way to do what you want is to make your cutting/editing in Premiere Pro, then import your project into after effect for compositing/color grading-correction/visual fx & such and then render your final movie from AE.

                               

                              If you really need to go back to Premiere for more editing/cutting, you can render each layer separatly in AE, (each layer corresponding to an edit on the Ppro timeline, unless you added some) or each comp if nested sequences, and then reimport them into Premiere, or Replace footage into Premiere.

                               

                              Also, CS4 and DynamicLink greatly improoves the workflow between Premiere and AE. If this is critical for you, I encourage you to upgrade.

                               

                              Hope that helps,

                               

                              Seb

                              • 12. Re: Newbie: Premiere to After Effects, or the other way?
                                bertrenolds Level 1

                                I've been finding the file I wan't to edit and then I import the raw footage into After Effects, mess with it then render to DV and import the new DV footage into premiere and drop it in place of the old footage. You could export/movie your time line once it's done to DV and then import it into AE, I myself like to rencode video as little as possible to avoid quality loss. Maybe you could use debugmode frameserver and import it to AE and avoid quality loss.