12 Replies Latest reply on Apr 17, 2008 11:40 AM by (Steven_Mullins)

    AE CS3 not for PPC!!!

    Level 1
      HI, i want hereby to express my disappointment about the performance of AE CS3 on PPC macs.
      I have a Quad G5 (2,5Ghz) with 4.5 Gb RAM that worked very well with AE 7. Now that i use AE CS3, as soon as i render (even a simple comp with sequenced photos, it slows down the whole machine INCREDIBLY.... What's this Adobe? Am i the only one in this situation? Am i doing smthg wrong?
      It really seems cs3 version was written for Intel and NOT for PPC. It's a bit of a scandalous issue, i think...

      Can i get some fee back...?
      Thx

      Federico
        • 1. Re: AE CS3 not for PPC!!!
          David Wigforss-Hv1BNN Level 2
          Time to upgrade your hardware... Scandalous? A bit harsh.. Switching to Intel chips is one of the best moves Apple has done in recent memory....
          • 2. Re: AE CS3 not for PPC!!!
            Level 1
            AE CS3 works pretty good and fast on my 2005 PowerBook G4 with only 1.5GB RAM and 1.67 GHz processor. You might need to check your performance settings in case something got messed up in the transition from AE7 to AE CS3. I'm running 10.4.11 (Tiger) so the OS version might also make a difference. I hope to upgrade to Leopard soon and am keeping my fingers crossed that PDF printing and a few other things have been fixed which worked great in Panther but that Tiger broke. G5's, in my experience, are way slower than the latest Intel Macs.
            • 3. Re: AE CS3 not for PPC!!!
              Mylenium Most Valuable Participant
              Scandalous? That's progress! You can see it whichever way you like, but that's just the way it is...

              Mylenium
              • 4. Re: AE CS3 not for PPC!!!
                Level 1
                Yes... right about the last Intel macs... that is kinda logical...Luckily they are faster than G5...!
                About upgrading my hardware... well, sure, it's always the solution.. but that's what i find a bit rude, since my Quad hasn't 2 years yet... So, what's the solution: spend 3000 every 2 years...? + of course a new laptop as well, so a nice 6000 biennial...? hmm.. not in my financial possibilities...
                Finally, i must say that i have the same G4 Pbook as mentionned above and CS3 runs quite ok, not killing my workflow... I have Leopard on it, Tiger on the Quad... maybe an issue... but still, the Quad works bloody well with AE 7... so, HW is ok... just not adapted to the new softwares... (or is it the opposite... :-) )

                I rmber anyway the years i enjoyed pretty well my G4 MP 450Mhz between 2000 and 2004... The good old times, when Apple was doing a lot for pros and quite less for the whole family and pets...

                Of course, don't take me wrong, i love the macs, own 3, advise them all the time, teach all their majors softwares... and surely will even buy a iPhone when 3g...

                thx for the answers anyway!
                • 5. Re: AE CS3 not for PPC!!!
                  Mylenium Most Valuable Participant
                  Well, not to sound too pompous, but if you need it to make a living, replacing your hardware every 2 years should already be part of your business plan. That aside, you cannot really blame anyone for the intel switch. It came completely unforeseen and there are enough programs that have ceased to support PPC, not only with Adobe.

                  Mylenium
                  • 6. Re: AE CS3 not for PPC!!!
                    Andrew Yoole MVP & Adobe Community Professional
                    No problem here running CS3 on a Quad G5. Not that I use it much any more.
                    • 7. Re: AE CS3 not for PPC!!!
                      Jonas Hummelstrand Level 2
                      CS3 is written for both PPC and Intel. You shouldn't get longer render times in CS3 than in AE 7.0, so something in your project/system/settings isn't right. Try to create a new project in 7.0 with just a bunch of standard, non-3rd-party plugins and render that. Then open the same project in CS3 and render it again. You should get the same rendering times or less in CS3.

                      Then try to figure out what effect is causing the slowdown in your project by rendering subcomps and turning off layers one by one. In the Prefs you can setup AE so tht it displays what it's doing in the Info panel. Also, look in the Render Queue while rendering what AE is doing, to try to isolate what takes so long...

                      Oh, also make sure you have PLENTY of disk space, I've seen AE taking 20 seconds to write each frame to disk on a Mac Pro quad, just because the disk was almost full and very fragmented.

                      - Jonas Hummelstrand
                      http://generalspecialist.com/
                      • 8. Re: AE CS3 not for PPC!!!
                        Level 1
                        federico_campanale@adobeforums.com wrote:
                        > HI, i want hereby to express my disappointment about the performance of AE CS3 on PPC macs.
                        > I have a Quad G5 (2,5Ghz) with 4.5 Gb RAM that worked very well with AE 7. Now that i use AE CS3, as soon as i render (even a simple comp with sequenced photos, it slows down the whole machine INCREDIBLY.... What's this Adobe? Am i the only one in this situation? Am i doing smthg wrong?
                        > It really seems cs3 version was written for Intel and NOT for PPC. It's a bit of a scandalous issue, i think...
                        >
                        > Can i get some fee back...?
                        > Thx
                        >
                        > Federico

                        Make sure you are using the milti processor rather than the open gl,
                        unless of course you have a honking monster of a vid card that is.
                        • 9. Re: AE CS3 not for PPC!!!
                          Level 1
                          I would think using Multiprocessing would slow everything way down. 1.125GB of RAM per core seems a little low (I thought 1.5GB was a bare minimum).

                          Federico, I had the identical setup as yours up until December and it was awesomely fast, at least as fast as with AE7. When I moved up to my 3.0GHz 8-Core with 16GB of RAM I found some operations were not all that much faster than on my G5 Quad. Granted, others blow it away, but it was certainly comparable. You must have another issue.

                          And for the record, I do buy a new Mac Pro and MacBook Pro every 2 years. I got $1800 for my G5 (like yours) and $1400 for my MBP. So it's not like I'm paying full pop every time.
                          • 10. Re: AE CS3 not for PPC!!!
                            Joey Morelli Level 1
                            Steve,

                            What do you mean "I got $1800 for my G5"? Did you get that on a trade-in or did you sell it privately like on ebay?

                            "So, what's the solution: spend 3000 every 2 years...?"

                            Um...welcome to the world of computers - where ya been? Just 6 little years ago I had a spanking new Quicksilver Dual 1 Ghz and at that time, it was the fastest thing around. Now, that machine barely runs my 10 year old's games. I just bought a loaded MBP and I have a 2 year old Quad / 4.5 Gigs RAM that I am selling to get an Octocore. That's life in this business. You have to plan it into your annual budget. You don't have an annual budget you say? Create one.

                            Joey
                            • 11. Re: AE CS3 not for PPC!!!
                              Level 1
                              Steven_Mullins@adobeforums.com wrote:
                              > I would think using Multiprocessing would slow everything way down.
                              > 1.125GB of RAM per core seems a little low (I thought 1.5GB was a
                              > bare minimum).

                              True, it does want lots of Ram. I have 6Gig a Mac Pro and there is a
                              huge difference in speed when Ram previewing with Open GL on
                              (automatically turning Multiprocessor off) as compared to Multiprocessor
                              which is much much faster. I imagine putting in another 4 Gig would give
                              an even better boost.
                              • 12. Re: AE CS3 not for PPC!!!
                                Level 1
                                Good ol' CraigsList. I sold my G5 Dual 2 years before that (with an eSATA card) for $1800 as well. The cycle continues! Macs hold their value pretty well. I'm a nerd though, I keep ALL of the packaging, documentation, discs, etc.) and usually throw in the mouse that comes with my new one. Ooh, and selling it at the 2 year mark also leaves a year of AppleCare which is a big selling point/comfort thing.

                                "Steve,
                                What do you mean "I got $1800 for my G5"? Did you get that on a trade-in or did you sell it privately like on ebay?"