12 Replies Latest reply on Apr 5, 2008 1:29 AM by (Dierk_Haasis)

    Adobe DNG Codec

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      I'm suprised in all this time Adobe has not yet released a Vista codec yet for dng files. If Adobe expects this public standard to fly then they need to provide some Vista user support.

      I'm starting to wonder if Adobe ever will. Does not even appear there's a committment too. I see that Nikon has released their Vista NEF codec. Maybe I should switchback to NEF and stop using DNG.
        • 1. Re: Adobe DNG Codec
          ArrrBee Level 1
          Pentax has as well for the PEF. There is a DNG codec available but they
          $29.95 for it. It is from a third party. That kind of money is just
          outrageous.

          Robert
          • 2. Re: Adobe DNG Codec
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            I know there's a 3rd party. I did the trial download and tried it out. It does work pretty good. I agree the price is pretty steep for a codec considering everyone else's is free. Adobe will "eventually" get one out or maybe even Microsoft. Either way they will all be free. For me a DBG codec is a convenience feature, not a necessity. So for $30 I will pass. Maybe, if they sold it for $10 they might get some volume sales. I'd bite at $10.
            • 3. Re: Adobe DNG Codec
              ArrrBee Level 1
              $9.95 or $10 I would too. At that price is worth it for ease. If you want
              something that will do it and free take a look at Arcsoft.

              http://www.arcsoft.com/products/rawviewer/

              This isn't codec's but a program that you install in to Windows XP or Vista,
              etc. and it gives you the same effect. It works great with the DNG files
              from my Pentax K10D and K20D (DNG only for the K20D at this time, though I
              have no doubt they will update) and it is free. I have this on all of my
              systems and have been quite happy.

              Robert
              • 4. Re: Adobe DNG Codec
                Level 1
                Anyone hear anything further on an Adobe or Microsoft DNG codec availability?
                • 5. Re: Adobe DNG Codec
                  ArrrBee Level 1
                  Microsoft has nothing to do with these. It is up to each company to do a
                  Vista codec for their formats. Adobe apparently has no plans to do so or
                  they would have done so by now. Can't blame them they seem to be having
                  problems getting a minor Lightroom and ACR update done right.

                  Robert
                  • 6. Re: Adobe DNG Codec
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                    Since DNG is supposed to be a non vendor specific format for raw files, Microsoft should provide it. But for marketing reasons and control they have not done so.

                    As for Adobe supplying... they most definitely should. They have created the DNG format and want universal acceptance. They need to complete their mission of support and gain acceptance for it. I have heard in vague terms that it's on their list but a low priority. That's too bad. For me it's a matter of convenience in order for me to use DNG as my standard format for storing RAW files.

                    I do not want to always want open up Bridge for a simple viewing of my photos.

                    Nikon provides the NEF codec. So I will probably switch back to NEF since I can use these within VISTA more conveniently. If Nikon and others can provide a codec for a proprietary raw format then Adobe can provide one for their open standard raw format.
                    • 7. Re: Adobe DNG Codec
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                      At least Adobe should make a clear public stand on this. Are they going to realease a WIC Codec for Vista or not? And if so what timeframe? I realize Adobe doesn not liek to give release dates. But is it going to be this year or next?
                      • 8. Re: Adobe DNG Codec
                        Thomas Knoll Level 2
                        Yes, Adobe is working on a codec. We are making progress, and it is getting closer to release.
                        • 9. Re: Adobe DNG Codec
                          ArrrBee Level 1
                          Why would Microsoft be responsible for putting out a codec for another
                          companies format. Pentax put their own codec, Canon and Nikon put out their
                          own codec. Why on earth should Microsoft put out Adobe's codec. I suppose
                          Microsoft should also put out codec's for Adobe's PSD format as well? Get
                          real, Adobe is the one that hasn't stepped up to the plate. While I find it
                          irritating they haven't released one, they have other projects like
                          Photoshop CS4, Lightroom 2, etc. to deal with. Though if it was me I would
                          just do it and get it over with. Especially since Adobe has a vested
                          interest in seeing DNG survive. When the maker of the format can't be
                          bothered to offer support especially for something that would be as useful
                          as the Vista codec one has to wonder just how dedicated they are too the
                          format.

                          Robert
                          • 10. Re: Adobe DNG Codec
                            ArrrBee Level 1
                            Big hug to you Mr. Knoll for letting us know. That is all we wanted was to
                            know if it was coming.

                            Robert
                            • 11. Re: Adobe DNG Codec
                              Level 1
                              I would not expect Microsoft to put out a PSD codec. DNG is not a proprietary format, it's universal multi-vendor format so it would make sense to me that they would. After all they do supply other non-vendor specific formats.

                              However, the rationale is mute now that Thomas has shed some light on the release. Looking forward to it's release.

                              Thanks ADOBE
                              • 12. Re: Adobe DNG Codec
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                                On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:58:01 -0700, Laverne_Krahenbil@adobeforums.com
                                wrote:

                                >DNG is not a proprietary format, it's universal multi-vendor format

                                Nonsense, it is a proprietary format for which the original
                                manufacturer - coincidentally Adobe - decided to publish the specs and
                                have others use it free of charge.

                                It is neither 'multi-vendor' [just like JPEG isn't] nor universal
                                [which is not a synonym for 'open' or 'publicly documented' or
                                'standard']. If Adobe wants it to be universally adapted they'd have
                                to push it by, for instance, quickly coming up with a free codec.

                                As you say, from Thomas Knoll's last statement we can assume they at
                                least come up with such a codec.



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