5 Replies Latest reply on Apr 14, 2009 10:43 PM by Jim_Simon

    Quicktime capture stuck @ 16:9, but need 4:3... changing crashes PP

    inmazevo

      Sorry, again, for asking another noob question:

       

      I'm trying to capture from my dv camera (a panasonic nv-gs120... not the greatest, but all I have).

      It's not an HD camera, and the capture aspect ratio is supposed to be 4:3.

       

      I've found two places to change the aspect ratio in Premiere Pro.

      The first is when you're creating a new project and set Capture settings... but when I click the "Video" button in the Capture section, PP crashes and disappears.

      The second is in the actual capture dialog within an existing project, and it's basically the same as the new project dialog... but again, when I click the "Video" button, PP crashes.

       

      It seems such a simple thing to do, but I'm not having any love.

       

      The only available capture types listed are "HDV" and "Quicktime."

      I haven't tried "HDV," since I don't have an HD camera, so quicktime seems correct.

       

      Perhaps there's a way to set this underneath the covers (a prefs file, or an xml files or something)? Clearly, changing it via the PP dialog isn't getting anywhere, but my captures are all stretched which is pretty useless (unless there's a way to convert them).

       

      I've resorted to capturing via iMovie, as it gets the aspect ratio correct because it just rips a dv stream (.dv).

      I suppose this is alright, since I can then import into PP, and it seems to work.

      Is there a major difference between .dv and .mov? Am I losing/gaining anything doing it this way?

       

      I could also boot to the windows side and capture via Premiere Pro 2, which I have over there. It captures avi files, but they seem to work as well when imported into CS4 on Mac.

       

      Any ideas? Thoughts?

       

      Should I just capture .dv with iMovie and live with it?

       

      That's fine, if that's how it is.

       

      Thanks,

      - zevo

        • 1. Re: Quicktime capture stuck @ 16:9, but need 4:3... changing crashes PP
          Jim_Simon Level 8
          when I click the "Video" button in the Capture section, PP crashes and disappears.

           

          Clearly that shouldn't happen.  At this point, I can't think of why that is, but fixing this is your best bet here.

          • 2. Re: Quicktime capture stuck @ 16:9, but need 4:3... changing crashes PP
            inmazevo Level 1

            Indeed.

            I'll try the new version of quicktime (7.6) ans see if that helps.

            Otherwise, I'm at a loss.

             

            Perhaps this should go in another thread, but I'll post it here first:

            What, if anything, am I missing by capturing to .dv in iMovie and importing to Premiere Pro?

             

            Again, I'm really new. I used PP 1.5 and 2.0 on Windows periodically, but nothing close to regularly, so I'm used to importing as .avi.

            I don't know much about .dv vs. .mov imports.

             

            - zevo

            • 3. Re: Quicktime capture stuck @ 16:9, but need 4:3... changing crashes PP
              Jim_Simon Level 8

              I believe Premiere will not import .dv files, so that may not be a viable solution.

              • 4. Re: Quicktime capture stuck @ 16:9, but need 4:3... changing crashes PP
                inmazevo Level 1

                This is actually quite strange (and starting to be a little annoying):

                 

                Capture Compression Settings:

                DV/DVPRO NTSC - 16:9

                - Output: 720x480 (1.2121)

                - Expected: 720x480 (1.2121)

                 

                DV/DVPRO NTSC - 4:3

                - Output: 720x480 (1.2121)

                - Expected: 720x480 (0.9091)

                 

                It will not change to 4:3, regardless of whether you select 4:3 or 16:9... it simply doesn't do anything.

                And, of course, everything's stretched, since I have a non-hd camera. I burned to DVD hoping it was just a Premiere view or something, but it's not.

                 

                I tried a few other capture compression settings:

                None: This got the correct (0.9091) ratio, but of course the file was MASSIVE... 20+GB for about 10 minutes. No scene detect.

                MPEG4: Also got the correct ratio, but dropped a bunch of frames while capturing. No scene detect.

                h.264: Also got the correct ratio, but still no scene detect.

                 

                Given that at this point my primary focus is getting about 70 hours of home videos into the machine, I'd really prefer scene detect to work, and that only works so far with DV/DVPRO NTSC, but then of course the aspect ratio is a show stopper on that path.

                 

                I tried upgrading to the latest version of Quicktime (7.6), but it didn't change anything.

                I've looked all over the quicktime preferences, and can't find related settings there.

                 

                I successfully imported .dv files, so that seems to work so far. I haven't tried anything past importing and dragging to a sequence, so I'm crossing my fingers that effects/transitions/edits/encore dynamic link all work.

                 

                We'll see. Didn't expect it to be so much work (I spent last week trying to get past startup crashes due to VST plugins). It wasn't nearly this much work when I was using Premiere Pro 1.5/2.0 on Windows a few years ago. No crashes or aspect ratio issues or anything.

                 

                Glad I upgraded from my Encore license so I can still switch over to the Windows bootcamp side and capture there. Seems an odd thing to have to do, but I'm mostly wanting to get these videos going, not troubleshoot.

                 

                Ahh... software.

                I love it.

                 

                Thanks again,

                - zevo

                • 5. Re: Quicktime capture stuck @ 16:9, but need 4:3... changing crashes PP
                  Jim_Simon Level 8

                  I successfully imported .dv files, so that seems to work so far.

                   

                  Hmm.  That's news.  I didn't think those would work.