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    Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3

    eplanetsystems

      Greetings Everyone and Thanks in advance for your help,

       

      Unable to open the images with CS3 with 5D Mark II camera,  I installed Camera Raw 5.3, 5.2. 4.6 in an effort to get to read the 5D Mark II format, but CS3 doesn't seem to support, I ran across somewhere about converting to DNG and something of that sort, Has anybody done anything like this before.

       

      We would like to stay with CS3, and still be able to use our new camera. Again thanks a lot for your help.

       

      Best Regards

      PG

        • 1. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
          JimHess-8IPblY Level 3

          The last version of Camera Raw that will work with Photoshop CS3 is ACR 4.6.  If your camera is not supported in that version then you need to download the latest version of the DNG converter.  This program is free, and is an independent freestanding program.  It will create DNG (Digital Negative) copies of your raw images.  These images will contain all of the original raw data, and you can do anything to those DNG files that you can do to any raw file.  And you can expect identical results.  All of the metadata will be stored in the header section of the DNG file; there will not be any XMP sidecar files.

          You are going to want to download the camera profiles and install them.  There is an installation package for those profiles included with the download package for ACR 5.2.  You cannot use the ACR plug-in, but ACR 4.6 will utilize the camera profiles.

          If you decide to use the DNG converter, you want the latest version.  It creates DNG files that are compatible with all versions of Camera Raw since version 2.4.  If this workflow is not acceptable, then it will be necessary for you to upgrade Photoshop CS4.

          • 2. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
            eplanetsystems Level 1

            Hi Jim,

             

            Thanks for suggesting me to get the DNG converter, I have installed and the same, and able to convert CR2 files to DNG, but photoshop doesn't seem to open, is there something else I should be doing  ?

             

            Thanks again

            • 3. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
              JimHess-8IPblY Level 3

              You indicated that you have tried three different versions of camera raw.  The only version you want is ACR 4.6.  The 5.x are of no value whatsoever to you.  They are only compatible with Photoshop CS4.  You need to remove them from your system.  Then, you need to make sure that ACR 4.6 is properly installed.  It has to go in the exact folder specified in the instructions, and it cannot be anywhere else.  That is the only thing I can think of for you to look at.

               

              In reading your question again, I need clarification.  Are you expecting Photoshop to open automatically when the DNG converter finishes?  That isn't going to happen.  You need to open Bridge and navigate to the folder where the DNG files were created.  The thumbnails should appear, and you should be able to work with those DNG files just like any other raw file.

              • 4. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                anne_stahl Level 1

                Use dng converter or upgrade to CS4 is indeed an answer - but not really an acceptable one if you ask me. As someone who invested a lot of money on buying CS4 I'm totally annoyed with the fact that so SOON Adobe is not supporting one little bit of update - the new 5d Mark II.

                 

                I guess this is how they make their money. Now I am forced to buy either an upgrade to CS4 (which I can't afford, just for this one issue), use DNG converter (which is indeed a workflow I cannot accept) or buy PS4 upgrade (not sure if I can even do that, as a CS3 owner). Unfortunately my experience with Adobe's product support after upgrading has been dire to say the least - so I"m looking into an alternative. This is how Adobe looses clients - and I know a lot of people who think the same.

                 

                a-

                • 5. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                  MadManChan2000 Adobe Employee

                  Anne, unfortunately the timing of the 5D II's release (and many of the

                  cameras that came out in Photokina 2008) was such that it came out soon

                  after development on CS3 had ended. BTW, I'm assuming in your post that it

                  was a typo on your part (e.g., I think you meant to say "invested a lot of

                  money on buying CS3" instead of "CS4").

                   

                  That said, as you've pointed out, you really do have a couple of choices

                  with regards to an Adobe-based workflow, one of which costs nothing but

                  takes more time (convert to DNG) and another which costs something but takes

                  less time (upgrade to CS4). Clearly only you can decide which side of the

                  time/money tradeoff makes sense to you.

                   

                  Eric

                   

                   

                  Use dng converter or upgrade to CS4 is indeed an answer - but not really an

                  acceptable one if you ask me. As someone who invested a lot of money on buying

                  CS4 I'm totally annoyed with the fact that so SOON Adobe is not supporting one

                  little bit of update - the new 5d Mark II.

                   

                  • 6. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                    JimHess-8IPblY Level 3

                    Anne,

                    In the first place, the DNG workflow really isn't that bad.  You have to download your images anyway, just use the DNG converter to do that download.  But you don't even have to do that.  If I read your message correctly, you have already purchased Photoshop CS4.  All you have to do is download the FREE Camera Raw update that is available from the Adobe download site.  Or am I misunderstanding what you wrote?  In either case there are workable solutions.  And ranting about the situation isn't going to change anything.  When a new version of Photoshop is released, CS3 or CS4, etc., all support for the old version (including Camera Raw for that version) ceases.  But if you have purchased CS4 then you are entitled to free updates of all the 5.x versions of Camera Raw.

                    • 7. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                      4cbjg

                      I have the new 5D also, I tried doing the conversion & it would not complete the task.  I don't know if it's the program or the files that are the problem.  I shot raw & other raw files have downloaded ok.

                      • 8. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                        JimHess-8IPblY Level 3

                        4cbjg wrote:

                         

                        I have the new 5D also, I tried doing the conversion & it would not complete the task.  I don't know if it's the program or the files that are the problem.  I shot raw & other raw files have downloaded ok.

                        What OS are you using?
                        What version of Photoshop?
                        What version of ACR?

                        What version of the DNG converter are you using?

                        • 10. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                          Ramón G Castañeda Level 4

                          4cbg,

                           

                          Your post is totally blank, as are most posts attempted through email to these forums.

                          • 12. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                            Ramón G Castañeda Level 4

                            4cbjg,

                             

                            Again another blank post.  Trying to post through email is futile.

                            • 13. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                              JimHess-8IPblY Level 3

                              4cbg,

                               

                              Your messages are not coming through.  So I will try to give you a generic answer that might help you.  Assuming you are working on Photoshop CS3.  First of all, make sure you have correctly installed ACR 3.7.  If your camera is not supported in that version than you need to download the latest version of the DNG converter.  Yes, the latest version.  It is not necessary to match the DNG converter version number with your ACR version.  The DNG converter will create the DNG files that are compatible with all versions of ACR, cleared back to version 2.4.  If you have the latest version of the DNG converter, and you still cannot create DNG files, then your camera is not yet supported and you will have to wait for another update.  I hope this give you some idea is to work with.

                              • 14. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                Ramón G Castañeda Level 4

                                JimHess wrote:

                                 

                                4cbg,

                                 

                                …Assuming you are working on Photoshop CS3.  First of all, make sure you have correctly installed ACR 3.7.

                                 

                                 

                                Nope.  Jim surely meant to say ACR 4.6, not 3.7.  The acr 3.x series works with CS2, not with CS3.   For CS3, you definitely want ACR 4.6.

                                • 15. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                  JimHess-8IPblY Level 3

                                  My apologies.  For some reason I was thinking Photoshop CS2.  It must be one of those legendary senior moments.

                                  • 16. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                    jaszewicz Level 1

                                    For some reasons many users don't want to upgrade from CS3 to CS4, the first one is very simple: many photographic plugins don't work with CS4. So mayby the point of adobe decision looks reasonable, but in result of that, we lose much more money than they earn. We should have much deeper pocket than it looks in adobe upgrade offer.

                                     

                                    And the next point is much more frustrating, even if i pay Adobe for upgarde I stiil can't use CS3  with EOS 5 mark II. Maybe they should make paid upgrades of Camera RAW?

                                    • 17. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                      jaszewicz Level 1

                                      & Please! DNG FREE converter is not the answer, Photoshop CS 3 with Bridge is a good workplace, & with plugins much better then CS4. I've learned how to use it fast, DNG converter "slows my motion" & changing my mind, and ofcourse, takes my time & making me nervous. I'm sure you know what i meen. So both solutions (upgrade & converter) makes me rather sad.

                                       

                                      So please consider paid upgrade of Camera Raw dear ADOBE.

                                      • 18. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                        JimHess-8IPblY Level 3

                                        jaszewicz wrote:

                                         

                                        & Please! DNG FREE converter is not the answer, Photoshop CS 3 with Bridge is a good workplace, & with plugins much better then CS4. I've learned how to use it fast, DNG converter "slows my motion" & changing my mind, and ofcourse, takes my time & making me nervous. I'm sure you know what i meen. So both solutions (upgrade & converter) makes me rather sad.

                                         

                                        So please consider paid upgrade of Camera Raw dear ADOBE.

                                        I disagree with you about the DNG converter.  Look, you have to download your images anyway.  All you have to do is use the DNG converter to download your raw images, converting them in the process.  Then, the Photoshop/Bridge workflow is precisely the same.  I agree that it would be nice to be able to pay a fee to be able to use the new ACR with older versions of Photoshop.  But the policy held by Adobe is long-standing, and we knew what we were getting into from the beginning.  If you didn't know, it isn't Adobe's fault.

                                        • 19. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                          jaszewicz Level 1

                                          Your answer looks good, but only on paper, If you have to operate on few cameras & the only what you to do is drag & drop folder to your HDD structures I call it workplace. But when you must remember that some files you have to convert & some files not & you have to remember about oryginal CR2, and you have to place somewere CR2s & DNGs, and mayby somethig else in few month (if one of your photographer buy new camera) I call it mess.

                                           

                                          I don't blame Adobe, I ask them to use few programer to make more money. Mayby it is good time to ask how many people works on CS2/CS3 & use third party converters, This is my point.

                                          • 20. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                            JimHess-8IPblY Level 3

                                            In my opinion, you are making a bigger deal out of it than it really is.  But if you can not handle it, you can't.  I was given Lightroom 2.0 as a Christmas gift last year.  I use it in conjunction with Photoshop CS3 at home, and I get along just fine.  I have an older model, the Nikon D40, so I don't have to worry about support because it is already there.  Occasionally a friend will ask me to work on an image that isn't supported and I have to turn to the DNG converter.  It's not that big of a deal.  Especially if you don't want to or cannot upgrade to the latest version of Photoshop.

                                             

                                            But as you indicated earlier, it would be nice if Adobe would let us pay a fee to be able to use the latest version of ACR.  One of the arguments I have read against that is that the program architecture changes so drastically that it is impossible to make ACR compatible with older versions.  I don't buy that argument because they do it with Photoshop Elements.  It's just one of those thorns in the side that I guess we should all pluck out and forget about because it isn't going to change, as far as I know

                                             

                                            Unfortunately, until the camera companies decide to quit jerking their customer base around and settle on a common format, we are going to have to know enough about our software to know how to handle files from different manufacturers and different models.  It's a bigger problem than just Adobe.  The only way to settle the issue would be for everyone to just stop buying cameras until they agree to a common format.  But that is never going to happen.  Many businesses have the philosophy of providing what the customer wants.  That is not the case with the different camera manufacturers.

                                            • 21. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                              anne_stahl Level 1

                                              If you have to convert images all the time, it DOES become an unacceptable workflow. Of course, I do also realize that this whole issue is not really an Adobe problem, but equally one caused by Canon!

                                              But I agree with previous suggestions: Adobe, we would gladly pay for a RAW upgrade!!! You can make us happy customers and SELL more software!

                                              • 22. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                JimHess-8IPblY Level 3

                                                I must ask this question.  Why is the DNG converter such an unacceptable workflow.  If you are going to work on your images on computer they have to be downloaded.  Just use the DNG converter to do the download.  Then, from that point forward, the workflow is the same.

                                                 

                                                Now I admit that I don't use DNG because I don't have to.  But I still think those of you who complain about an unacceptable workflow are dwelling on something that isn't really there.  You have two choices.  Upgrade, or make a slight modification in your workflow.  But that modification doesn't make the workflow unacceptable in my opinion.  I'm not trying to win anyone over.  I just don't think you have really thought through the process.

                                                • 23. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                  jaszewicz Level 1

                                                  Lightroom or converter are good if you want to convert 500 pictures for a friend.

                                                   

                                                  Jim please, I have 2TB of pictures (in a year), made by 11 photographers with 7 cameras. I've bought (18 month ago) industry standard software solution to manage & edit them, I've bought kilos of plugins wich are very efficient & helpful in my work. What I want is paid (reasonably priced) support for that, consider that even if my plugins will work with CS 4 (remember that many of them not) I will have to pay for all plugin upgrades. If you add it (if I can make little extrapolation) it will be about 1100 Euros for a Camera RAW update.

                                                   

                                                  As you said - it will be nice.

                                                   

                                                  But mayby you have absolutely right: if I can not handle it, I can't & Adobe will not help me

                                                   

                                                   

                                                  & please Jim, if you speak about liability of "camera companies" consider that small software companies makes "converting & small files managment" for max 100$ @ edition.

                                                  • 24. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                    JimHess-8IPblY Level 3

                                                    You bought industry-standard software 18 months ago.  That is a lifetime in software today.  I know, it's expensive, it's frustrating, it's reality.  I'm not going to "stir the pot" in this discussion anymore.  I guess we will all do what we have to do.

                                                    • 25. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                      jaszewicz Level 1

                                                      I have Leopard two years & I am supported. More difficult is to suport tiger, XP or office 2003 but they do it. I know Jim that you wan't win discusion at any price, so ok you win .

                                                      • 26. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                        jaszewicz Level 1

                                                        *you want  (sorry)

                                                        • 27. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                          jaszewicz Level 1

                                                          You said "I know, it's expensive, it's frustrating, it's reality".

                                                           

                                                          Yes I've noticed that you can't help me & other CS3 users. But we are in a larger community. So I have a request to Adobe, not to forum master-blaster, Perhaps they'll think about it, hm? Let's hope. Maybe we can wait for a solution and stop looking for third party converters or waiting for hipothethic Apple "Aperture PRO" Maybe Adobe will realize that we can't use CS4 until new plugins are ready?

                                                           

                                                          I will tell you more, I would buy full PS CS4 IF  i can open pictures from Bridge CS 4 to Photoshop CS3.

                                                          • 28. Uhhuh
                                                            Jeff Schewe Level 5

                                                            jaszewicz wrote:

                                                             

                                                            I've bought (18 month ago) industry standard software solution to manage & edit them, I've bought kilos of plugins wich are very efficient & helpful in my work. What I want is paid (reasonably priced) support for that, consider that even if my plugins will work with CS 4 (remember that many of them not) I will have to pay for all plugin upgrades. If you add it (if I can make little extrapolation) it will be about 1100 Euros for a Camera RAW update.

                                                             

                                                             

                                                            Uh huh. . .is this a hobby for you? If you are working professionally, the $199 upgrade for CS4 (depending on where you live) is a drop in the bucket of the cost of doing business these days. I find it utterly ironic that photographers who live and die by licensing intellectual property–their copyrighted images–have so little regard for the IP of other people...

                                                             

                                                            You "bought" CS3 18 months ago...so just how long should Adobe support your product considering they no longer sell it?

                                                             

                                                            You and other who complain that new cameras aren't supported are really engaged in the ultimate disrespect for intellectual property–software...you are completely willing to buy new cameras/hardware because hey, it's new and better, right? But when you find out that software that hasn't even been sold for almost 8 months is no longer supported, they get bent out of shape that they may have to actually "buy" an upgrade to get complete compatibility.

                                                             

                                                            Don't you see the utter irony here? People are perfect happy spending money on physical, tangible property but Pi$$&Moan™ at the prospect of having to pay for an upgrade of intellectual property...

                                                             

                                                            Personally as a current customer using Photoshop CS4, I'm perfectly happy that Adobe has the policy of only supporting the current shipping software. That means that new versions of Camera Raw will be updated and in the case of 5.0>5.2 have substantial improvements included...the thought of engineers wasting time having to update old code for compatibility of old products for new cameras does not interest me in the least. I would much rather that the engineers spend time and resources doing new updates and upgrades and future versions.

                                                             

                                                            I would have to say that somebody using Camera Raw 4.6 is leaving image quality on the table compared to Camera raw 5.3. If you choose _NOT_ to upgrade for any reason, that's your choice. Just understand you are cutting yourself short, professionally.

                                                             

                                                            The other thing I would point out is that if you've bought plug-ins that worked in CS3 that aren't supported yet in CS4, I would suggest you go jump down the plug-in developers' throats...and if you have to pay for the CS3 to CS4 update, I would question your judgement on the plug-ins you've bought.

                                                            • 29. Re: Uhhuh
                                                              jaszewicz Level 1

                                                              > find it utterly ironic that photographers who live and die by licensing intellectual property–their copyrighted images–have so little regard for the IP of other people...

                                                               

                                                              1. You try to tell me that have no respect to intelectual property asking Adobe for paid upgrades for Camera Raw ??????

                                                               

                                                               

                                                              > You "bought" CS3

                                                               

                                                              2. You try to tell me that I have no licence for CS3???????  That's extremely funny.

                                                               

                                                               

                                                               

                                                              > You and other who complain that new cameras aren't supported

                                                               

                                                              3. You try to tell me that asking for paid support is "disrespect for intellectual property–software" (Oh, please, I'm editor, try reading, maybe answer will be more adequate )

                                                               

                                                               

                                                               

                                                              Don't you see the utter irony here that you have to accuse me to (not) answer simple question? Try understand that upgrading will not solve my problem until plugins are working with CS 4, Thats the point. Ofcourse that I ask Adobe, they are big company, and ofcourse I wait for updates from small plugins makers and thay make it at last, I am sure. But I have few month of grief.

                                                               

                                                               

                                                               

                                                               

                                                              > Personally as a current customer using Photoshop CS4 ...

                                                               

                                                              I'm happy for you, & God bless you! I'am sure that I will be happy consumer when my problem will be solved & I am realy sorry to bother you with my little drawbeck. But I've bought every Photoshop from 3, Few Ilustrators from 9, first iDesign (oh my God!!!) and Creative Colection & two Suits (cs 2 & 3) & some other software and always say good word about Adobe but I never felt like today without window of opportunity to solve simple trouble for few month.

                                                               

                                                               

                                                              OK, I'am sorry makinkg this wind, the fact is that the only way is to wait with some Yoda sentences sticked to monitor.

                                                              • 30. Re: Uhhuh
                                                                Jeff Schewe Level 5

                                                                jaszewicz, while English doesn't seem to be your native tongue, I'm sure you are far better at English that I would be in YOUR native language...so hats off to you for trying...

                                                                 

                                                                The bottom line is that it is Adobe's policy since Camera Raw was released as a part of Photoshop (Photoshop CS released October 2003) that active support and updates are ONLY supplied for the current shipping version which at the moment is Photoshop CS4. There are legitimate technical and of course real business reasons for this policy but this is no new thing...it was this way when you bought CS3. So, while it may relieve you to vent, complaining here in a user to user forum ain't gonna get you much.

                                                                 

                                                                You would do better to concentrate your venting to the plug-in developers who have been slow to update their offerings for CS4 compatibility...

                                                                • 31. Re: Uhhuh
                                                                  jaszewicz Level 1

                                                                  Thank you for help Jeff.

                                                                   

                                                                  Can I say that as user tu "user" ?

                                                                  • 32. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                                    Tom Hogarty Adobe Employee

                                                                    Jaszewicz,

                                                                    Can you list the plug-ins that that you utilize that are not currently available for Photoshop CS4?

                                                                     

                                                                    Regards,

                                                                    Tom Hogarty

                                                                    Lightroom, Camera Raw Product Manager.

                                                                    • 33. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                                      jaszewicz Level 1

                                                                      Dziękuję Tom za darmową lekcję angielskiego, Jeffowi też dziękuję. Uświadomiliście mi, że (skoro znalazłem dobre rozwiązanie zastępcze), dalsza rozmowa, w której bez wątpienia wykorzystasz oczywistą podłość mojej angielszczyzny, ma dla was sens jedynie marketingowy. Obiecując, że wezmę lekcje angielskiego, nadmienię jedynie, że w naszej cywilizacji, ludzi ośmieszających oponenta niemerytorycznym przytykiem do rodzimości lub (nie)rodzimości języka, którym oponent się z musu posługuje, nie jest uznawane za cnotę.

                                                                       

                                                                      Merytorycznie tymczasem wspomnę o dobrych narzędziach napisanych do Waszego oprogramowania przez pewnego holendra, i kilku innych, znakomitych plug-inach napisanych przez Rosjan, Polaków, Niemców i jednego genialnego Czecha. Niestety niektóre z nich w ogóle nie będą aktualizowane do najnowszej wersji Waszego produktu. Skoro mój angielski nie jest wystarczająco dobry, by uznać komunikację za zadowalającą Tym razem ja będę złośliwy i nie podam ich otwartym tekstem, abyś musiał poprosić tłumacza jeśli jesteś naprawdę zainteresowany.

                                                                       

                                                                      Pozdrowienia

                                                                      • 34. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                                        Ramón G Castañeda Level 4

                                                                        Jaszewicz,

                                                                         

                                                                        In all fairness, I don't see where Tom Hogarty set out to give you or anybody else "an English lesson".  He never even mentioned anything about a language barrier.  Jeff did, but I don't see where he tried to lecture you or anyone else in the use of the English language, either.  As a matter of fact, he praised you and congratulated you.  "Hats off" means he symbolically takes his hat off to you as a sign of respect.  Chapeau!

                                                                         

                                                                        As I have no direct working knowledge of the Polish language, I have to rely on a combination of the incomplete Google translation of your text and what precious little similarity there may be in the words and phrases left untranslated by Google and some Russian words in my active vocabulary.

                                                                         

                                                                        In any event, I gather you do not wish to give Tom further details about plug-ins written by Dutch, Russian, Polish and German software developers, "and one by a brilliant Czech", as they will never be updated for the latest version of Tom's product.  In addition, you're miffed enough about a reference to your English skills to the point of not being willing to provide a translation of your thoughts.

                                                                         

                                                                        Trust me on this, though:  communicating with you in English is a whole lot easier. 

                                                                         

                                                                        Pozdrowienia — Regards to you too.

                                                                        • 35. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                                          jaszewicz Level 1

                                                                          I'm pretty sure now that communicaton in English (even if mine is rather poor than pure) is a whole lot easier, because google translated only about 30% of my answer .

                                                                           

                                                                          You've made me feel obliged to explain myself, so I'll start with that. I think I understand what "Hats off" means, but to me it sounded rather sarcastic & I'm sure - to you as well  . Maybe when the point of our discusion changed to my English skills,  I read Tom's repetition of "that"as a joke of my that "overusing" (as I understood my misuderstanding of the quotes used by Jeff, - Thank you Jeff, I will try not to overuse Present Perfect). This I called "English lessons". Of course I'm not sure, so I try to rely on your English feeling for rhythm of this exquisite language, I hope I'm not making wrong move.

                                                                           

                                                                           

                                                                          So lets go to the piont:

                                                                           

                                                                          First of all there are very good plug-ins & actions made by FM software (fredmiranda.com), they still works on CS4 compatybility. For windows CS 3 there are fine tools from redfieldplugins, Cybia & Van der Lee & I like them.  (Yes, I'm using (at home & at work) both Windows & OS X versions of CS 3.)

                                                                           

                                                                          (Of course that is not all. Some of my friends (this brillant Czech for example, and my Polish & German friends)  made for me & my friends some plug-ins & actions. This software is not so user friendly so they did not decide to start sell it on open market. They even don't know when thay start work with compatibility problem.)

                                                                           

                                                                          But even if they do that it will be problem when ADOBE will make CS 5, I'am sure. So the point is: do ADOBE want our money for longer support of erlier versions, or not. In spite of continuous development digtal RAW standards mabe ADOBE will change their policy, for our and their profit (not our or their)?

                                                                           

                                                                          Regards

                                                                          • 36. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                                            jaszewicz Level 1

                                                                            And ones more - forgive me talking about past problems, connected only with lenght of support  - when my employer bought last CS3 licence (for next worker) thare was CS4 on the market. He decided to make this because there was not info when Silver Efex would work with CS4. Of course we can say: "I know it's frustrating, but it's reality", - but this kind of thinking I call "arrogance". Please, forgive if my feedback is to heavy for acceptance.

                                                                            • 37. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                                              jaszewicz Level 1

                                                                              Of course not "in spite of" but "in circumstances" sorry, & sorry for other, less or more annoying mistakes.

                                                                              • 38. Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark II with Photoshop CS3
                                                                                Thomas Knoll Level 2

                                                                                All plug-ins that need to run under the 64-bit version of Photoshop CS4 for Windows needed to be updated to be compatible with 64-bit.  However, you can still run the 32-bit version of Photoshop CS4 for Windows, and nearly all CS3 compatible plug-ins are still compatible, and don't need to be updated.   You get both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Photoshop CS4 for Windows on the install disk, and both can be installed on the same machine.

                                                                                 

                                                                                So, have you actually verified that your plug-ins are not compatible with 32-bit Photoshop CS4?  There are free trail versions available for download.

                                                                                • 39. Re: Cannon Eos 5D Mark ii with Photoshop CS3
                                                                                  Jeff Schewe Level 5

                                                                                  jaszewicz wrote:

                                                                                   

                                                                                  You've made me feel obliged to explain myself, so I'll start with that. I think I understand what "Hats off" means, but to me it sounded rather sarcastic & I'm sure - to you as well  . Maybe when the point of our discusion changed to my English skills,  I read Tom's repetition of "that"as a joke of my that "overusing" (as I understood my misuderstanding of the quotes used by Jeff, - Thank you Jeff, I will try not to overuse Present Perfect). This I called "English lessons". Of course I'm not sure, so I try to rely on your English feeling for rhythm of this exquisite language, I hope I'm not making wrong move.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  What we have here, is a failure to communicate...

                                                                                   

                                                                                  As an American, I'm rather embarrassed that the only foreign language I ever took in school was Latin. And unless you spend time at the Vatican or are a Catholic priest, there's not much call for Latin as a speaking language. So, if you think I was making fun of or otherwise disparaging your use of the written English language you are mistaken.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  As for the quotes thing, when I wrote about you buying CS3 I put the word "bought" in quotes without explaining why I did that. I was actually talking about the issue of licensing and had intended to draw a comparison between a client licensing images and a Photoshop user licensing Photoshop. But for one reason or another that part didn't make it into the post so that left the word "bought" hanging out there. Sorry, I had no intention of implying anything with the quotes.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  As for the rest with the plug-ins, as Thomas indicates, plug-ins that ran under CS3 as 32 binaries should run under CS4 when Photoshop is run as a 32 bit app. And even if you are booted under a 64 bit OS, you still have the choice of launching Photoshop as a 32 or 64 bit app. If you are running CS3 under a 64 bit OS, you're already running Photoshop as a 32 bit app. If you updated to CS4 you would have the choice of running as 32 or 64 bit but would get the benefits of addressing more ram when running CS4 as a 64 bit app for those time when you really need the memory allocation.

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