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1. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Zeno Bokor May 3, 2009 11:47 PM (in response to Typhoon859)you mean different layer styles to different letters? then you'll have to have each letter on it's own individual layer
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2. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Typhoon859 May 3, 2009 11:53 PM (in response to Zeno Bokor)Well, yeah, but without making each letter an individual layer, is there a way to do that? Positioning each letter manually isn't very optimal.. Is there a way to split each letter into a separate layer as they are now in this one layer so that they stay where they are? Afterward, is there a way to nest in Photoshop like in Premiere with video layers?
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3. Re: Overlapping Letters?
John Joslin May 3, 2009 11:57 PM (in response to Typhoon859)As ZB said, each letter must be set individually on its own type layer to get the glow to be around that letter.
To just make them overlap use the tracking slider in the Character palette:
If they are on different layers you can just drag them into position relative to each other.
Then copy the Glow style to each layer.
Make sure Smart Guides is turned on to keep them aligned
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4. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Typhoon859 May 4, 2009 12:04 AM (in response to John Joslin)The thing is, I won't be able to apply any warp to the text. Because I currently have the phrase arced and vertically distorted. So even if I did spend the time positioning one letter at a time, I'd still not end up getting what I wanted.
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5. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Zeno Bokor May 4, 2009 12:09 AM (in response to Typhoon859)after you've warped the text, make a duplicate of that layer(to keep the original intact) and then either rasterize the type or convert it into shapes and seperate the letters to different layers
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6. Re: Overlapping Letters?
John Joslin May 4, 2009 12:10 AM (in response to Typhoon859)Typhoon859 wrote:
The thing is, I won't be able to apply any warp to the text. Because I currently have the phrase arced and vertically distorted. So even if I did spend the time positioning one letter at a time, I'd still not end up getting what I wanted.
You should have said that in the first place!
It is impossible to visualise what you want from your description. Post an example of something similar if you want more help.
Edit: Maybe what ZB said is enough!
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7. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Typhoon859 May 4, 2009 12:29 AM (in response to John Joslin)http://fs7.mybloop.com/image-handler/optimized/34/3802169
The "Digitally Remastered" is what I'm talking about. I want the letters to overlap just like they do in "Dragonball Z".
EDIT: The way I have to do it is by cutting each letter out individually WITHOUT the outer glow, after I rasterize it? Then adding the outer glow to each of the letters? Doesn't seem like such a rare case that drastic measures like that must be taken. Are you guys sure there's no other way?
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8. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Mylenium May 4, 2009 12:58 AM (in response to Typhoon859)Well, you could just do it in Illustrator... The whole matter gets that complicated because you are using a not-so-ideal program for such stuff.
Mylenium
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9. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Typhoon859 May 4, 2009 1:06 AM (in response to Mylenium)Hmmm... Well, I've never used Illustrator. Illustrator can do such a thing automatically?
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10. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Zeno Bokor May 4, 2009 1:19 AM (in response to Typhoon859)automatically? no
easier if you don't know how to use it? hell no
but it's easier to do it in Illustrator if you know the program
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11. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Typhoon859 May 4, 2009 1:24 AM (in response to Zeno Bokor)Lol. Don't really see how (obviously cause I don't know the program), but yeah... Eh, I'll just leave it as it is unless I one day feel like actually cutting every letter out.
Final question.. It was probably answered just by the simple fact that there was no response to it, but, is there a way to nest in Photoshop? That would be extremely useful in a case like this. Surprising if there's no way to do so...
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12. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Zeno Bokor May 4, 2009 2:39 AM (in response to Typhoon859)nesting is for the birds and Photoshop doesn't ship with birds..... wait, what do you mean by "nesting"?
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13. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Typhoon859 May 4, 2009 3:10 AM (in response to Zeno Bokor)Lol. Isn't that what it's called? Basically, in Premiere, it takes any multiple pieces of footage/layers and makes them into one. BUT, they can be separated. After they're nested, any effect you apply to it is applied to everything. So I was thinking of doing that with the letters after I made them into separate layers. That way, I'd be able to actually apply the transformations to the whole thing AFTER dividing it up into layers. Without "nesting", I have to do as has been said, literally cut the letters out like images. Lol, it might actually be called "netting" but I don't think so.
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14. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Zeno Bokor May 4, 2009 3:28 AM (in response to Typhoon859)well then nests are called groups around here, but be warned, you can't warp multiple layers, you can transform then together but not warp them.
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15. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Typhoon859 May 4, 2009 3:32 AM (in response to Zeno Bokor)So yeah, guess it's useless in my case anyway. Well alright, thanks a lot. That pretty much sums up all I needed to know.
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16. Re: Overlapping Letters?
D. McCahill May 4, 2009 7:44 AM (in response to Typhoon859)I'm not seeing any glows happening here. I think you should track the letters tighter, as described above, and then add a stroke to the characters. I think that will get you where you want to go.
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17. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Zeno Bokor May 4, 2009 8:11 AM (in response to D. McCahill)check the effect that he wants to achieve more closely, he wants a stroke on the characters, not on the layer, and also a strict stacking order for them
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18. Re: Overlapping Letters?
D. McCahill May 4, 2009 8:37 AM (in response to Zeno Bokor)Right you are. I have never stroked type. I consider it a sin. I assumed that a stroke would have gone on each character, not on the block as a whole.
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19. Re: Overlapping Letters?
Typhoon859 May 4, 2009 6:43 PM (in response to Typhoon859)Sorry, just in case anyone wanted to see the picture... I didn't realize that I wouldn't be able to edit the post and I deleted that picture from my account. Here's the new one... Not much different




