11 Replies Latest reply: Jun 17, 2009 5:07 PM by Bob Dix Photographer-E0Nmzu RSS

    Upper Lower on None

    Reese Richardson Community Member

      I made a video in 1920X1080 and used lower settings to burn DVD when played on a High def TV the results were not what I expected. Since I don't know I'm asking the question should progressive be used is there something about HD. I hope this make a bit of sence.

        • 1. Re: Upper Lower on None
          Ann Bens CommunityMVP

          HD(V) is always upper so you must set fields all the way to dvd to upper.

          • 2. Re: Upper Lower on None
            John T Smith CommunityMVP

            >video in 1920X1080 and used lower settings to burn DVD

             

            I was not aware the DVD specification would allow that type setting... I once saved the allowed sizes

             

            Compliant video to produce a DVD (per Encore forum)
            NTSC: 720x480 or 720x486 (or 704x480) at 29.97 or 23.976 fps
            PAL: 720x576 (or 704x576) at 25 fps

            Encode audio to AC3 or PCM for best player compatibility


            NOTE that 704-wide is "less good" per a recent message in that it may (will?) need to be re-transcoded by Encore

            • 3. Re: Upper Lower on None
              JSS1138 CommunityMVP

              I made a video in 1920X1080

               

              If you haven't solved the problem yet, what media is used in the project?

              • 4. Re: Upper Lower on None
                Reese Richardson Community Member

                I burned a DVD using upper, It plays fine on my TV but distorted on my computer screen. Since I don't have a High Dev TV I'm just guessing on what to do. The original file is MOV imported into Pre Pro using 1920 1080 upper 29.9 frames ps. I'm going to burn trying progressive and see what it looks like.

                • 5. Re: Upper Lower on None
                  JSS1138 CommunityMVP

                  The original file is MOV

                   

                  http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Confused/confused-37.gif

                   

                  OK.  That doesn't help too much, though, because Quicktime is just a file format.  It says nothing about the video format inside the file.  So again, what kind of media is used in the project?  Where did you get it from?

                  • 6. Re: Upper Lower on None
                    Bill Hunt CommunityMVP

                    Reese,

                     

                    In QT Pro (maybe in regular too), hit Ctrl-k and see what the exact properties are for that file. That info will help a lot.

                     

                    Good luck,

                     

                    Hunt

                    • 7. Re: Upper Lower on None
                      Reese Richardson Community Member

                      I found something under Ctrl I it reads

                       

                      Format H.264

                      16 bit Interger Little Endian

                      Stero 44.100 Khz

                      Data Rate 44.01 mbits/ sec

                       

                      Some where I wrote at this point in time I don't have a HD TV  I'm have some one test three DVD's for me, I burned in upper lower and progressive there going to get back to me to let me now which one is showing a clear picture.

                      • 8. Re: Upper Lower on None
                        JSS1138 CommunityMVP

                        Format H.264

                         

                        And you edited this with Premiere Pro 2.0?

                        • 9. Re: Upper Lower on None
                          Reese Richardson Community Member

                          Yes

                          • 10. Re: Upper Lower on None
                            Community Member

                            Only with Premiere Pro 1.5.1 , when imported from My Pictures Folder it

                            comes in as a Quicktime mov.file and then needs to be rendered to run

                            smoothly. How ever Caon's Zoom browzer Software the latest upgrade will

                            bring it in to their programe it can be cut as required, saved and then re

                            Imported into Premiere.

                             

                             

                            We have done a 45 min Import of clips overnight , it took 5 hours

                            approximately. It ran very smoothly on the timeline and the final Export to

                            Professional HD Tape and run on a 46" Sony Bravia through a Canon HV 20

                            running at 25fps PAL was quite extraodinary  equivalent to Broadcast.

                             

                            However, as the Canon EOS 5D Mark II runs at 30fps it is necessary to set

                            the Project at tha as you will be Exporting to Tape into a Canon HV 20 at

                            25fps . This means you may have to change the speed duration on some of the

                            clips on the project to get the right appearance ., Ie., for moving objects.

                            But, this is not a problem.

                             

                            We are still running a DEll Pentium 3.2Ghz at 800FBS at 2 GB Ram and 400 GB

                            Hard Drives which are the Specs for this program, however, a Quad Computer

                            would solve the rendering problem..

                             

                            We quite often Import High Definition Stills and this creates the same slow

                            remdering problem, but, there is one thing you can say about Premiere even

                            the old version 1.5.1 which is now 4 years old, it does produce stunning

                            High Definition Video to Professional Tape you will not get this using DVD

                            Export , you will need Blu Ray and eve then you may end up with artifacts,

                            not so with tape . It is close to perfection that  you will  achieve.

                             

                             

                            good luck

                            From: "Jim Simon" <forums@adobe.com>

                            To: "Bob Dix" <louise13@tpg.com.au>

                            Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:58 AM

                            Subject: Re: Upper Lower on None

                             

                             

                             

                            Format H.264

                             

                            And you edited this with Premiere Pro 2.0?

                            • 11. Re: Upper Lower on None
                              Community Member

                              Reece,

                               

                               

                              We are in Australia , PAL high definition Capture from say a Canon HV 20 to

                              Premiere Pro 1.5.1 is no problem and Exports High Definition Video via the

                              Cineform Codec (this must be set to Highest Quality in Export requirements)

                              in Premiere with no rendering problems to high definition tape however, you

                              cannot successfully burn to DVD only BluRay I would not waste my  time or

                              money at this stage on Blu Ray.

                               

                               

                              Not: The Quicktime Mov. files from a Canon Mark II  produces High Definition

                              H264 files of an extremely high quality 1920 x 1080 and 5 seconds in a clip

                              is about 35 MB, this does require rendering to run smoothly in the Timeline

                              and it does produce sensational video..

                               

                              Oh for a better computer though to handle all this #################  Ps. I

                              have spoken to an Adobe technical person in Sydney and he says a patch will

                              be developed to improve the performance of mov. files in CS4. I would really

                              like to know if CS4 users are experiencing the same slowness in using the

                              mov. files on the timeline ie., High Definition files ??