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1. Re: HELP please... Canon XL2 fields, progressive, flicker removal issues...
Harm Millaard Jun 22, 2009 12:40 PM (in response to wishstarmedia)Keep in mind that the XL2 records everything in a 50/60i wrapper. It does not adjust tape speed, there is only one speed at which it records, either 50i or 60i, so your sequence settings must reflect that.
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2. Re: HELP please... Canon XL2 fields, progressive, flicker removal issues...
wishstarmedia Jun 22, 2009 1:21 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)It just seems a little falsely stated on the gear though if it's able to produce that content, yet it natively is still captured 29.97. Am I incorrect in that statement?
BTW... I forgot to mention I have upgraded to CS4 in case anyone needs that info.
Would I need to make a special preset for my canon XL2?
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3. Re: HELP please... Canon XL2 fields, progressive, flicker removal issues...
Harm Millaard Jun 22, 2009 1:50 PM (in response to wishstarmedia)No, just use the standard NTSC 60i version and after capture, use the drop down setting. I'm sorry I can't be more specific, but I have a mental barrier when it goes about intentionally reducing frame rate only to create stutters, under the motto that it creates a film look, which IMO is utter BS. Film is 48i or higher.
The marketing hype is something we should constantly be aware of. The big stickers on the side of a camera, stating 800x digital zoom or similar should be enough reason NEVER to buy that camera. EIS is another reason to not buy a camera, Once manufacturers learn that these misleading claims only put people off, they might learn, but that requires consumers to know what they really need or want, and two things are obvious IMO, they don't want digital zoom and they don't want EIS. They want OIS, an accessory shoe, mic in and headphone out.
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4. Re: HELP please... Canon XL2 fields, progressive, flicker removal issues...
JSS1138 Jun 22, 2009 2:53 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)I have a mental barrier when it goes about intentionally reducing frame rate only to create stutters, under the motto that it creates a film look, which IMO is utter BS.
You need to see some of the work I'm doing with dv2Film. It's not perfect, but it is damn good, and very film like.
Film is 48i or higher.
Film is shot at 24 frames per second, and often shown theatrically at 48 fps (each frame shown twice). Though film doesn't really get an i or p designation, p would be the more appropriate if one were to use one.
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5. Re: HELP please... Canon XL2 fields, progressive, flicker removal issues...
Harm Millaard Jun 22, 2009 3:02 PM (in response to JSS1138)Jim,
You need to see some of the work I'm doing with dv2Film. It's not perfect, but it is damn good, and very film like.
Does that require me to get rid of my 100 Hz or 200 Hz screen and exchange it for a 24 Hz screen? What model and brand do you recommend?
Film shot at 24 FPS is shown as 48 half frames, whether that is called i or half p is not really relevant, but that is effectively what the rotating mirror does, doubling the frame rate, otherwise everyone would think we were still in the Chapman B&W era.
BTW, thanks for the invitation to see your results. When will you send me the ticket?
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6. Re: HELP please... Canon XL2 fields, progressive, flicker removal issues...
JSS1138 Jun 22, 2009 3:10 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Does that require me to get rid of my 100 Hz or 200 Hz screen and exchange it for a 24 Hz screen?
No. This stuff looks equally good on CRT, Plasma or LCD. (Though I do recommend leaving off such things as 100 Hz modes, as they have a tendency to produce the opposite effect, making film look more like video.)
Film shot at 24 FPS is shown as 48 half frames,
Where on earth did you get that idea? Film is always shown theatrically as whole frames, whether 24 or 48 fps.
When will you send me the ticket?
Opening day for my first fiction project will be in my cousin's basement home theater, on a 9 foot screen with overhead projection. I'll let you know when the release date approaches. Better get your ticket early, though. I'm expecting a line all the way around the shed, stretching clear to the garbage cans.


