16 Replies Latest reply on Jun 24, 2009 3:18 PM by Eddie Lotter

    Moving Tracks Up Or Down?

    Suntower Level 1

      Is it possible to move a track up or down? I have a video with many tracks and I've been using the fact that the top-most track has precedence. Now I want to make a track lower on the list the top-most. Is it possible to move it to the top or does one have to create a new track and move all the clips up there?

       

      TIA,

       

      ---JC

        • 1. Re: Moving Tracks Up Or Down?
          Harm Millaard Level 7

          Yes, the manual or help file will tell you how. Else get a basic education in doing these very basic things.

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            Suntower Level 1

            Cute. Where's the checkbox to rank replies as 'Unhelpful'.

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              the_wine_snob Level 9

              Moving Tracks is not quite as intuitive, or as easy, as one would hope.

               

              Basically, you use a combo of Sequence>Add Tracks. Locate where you wish this new Track to be created (watch out that you do not also add, say an Audio Track, when you only want a Video Track, or a Video Track, when you only want an Audio Track). In your case, I'd lock all other Tracks and either Ctrl-a (Select All), or Lasso all the Clips on the Track that you'll move from. Copy, or Move these Clips to your new, higher level Track. I'd probably do the Copy/Paste, just to make sure I was happy, then Delete the Clips on the old Track. Go to Sequence>Delete Tracks and check Unused.

               

              Kinda' wish there was a hot-spot on each Track, that one could click-drag on, but then that might REALLY mess things up, if one were not careful.

               

              Good luck,

               

              Hunt

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                shooternz Level 6

                I am not sure there is a way to reorder video tracks in a simple manner but would be pleased to be enlightened as well.

                 

                @ the O.P   This forum has a number of self appointed 'Hall Monitors' who go out of ther way to let you know you are unworthy to be on this site.  Ignore their flawed personalities because plenty of others offer good advice and are helpful.  (That is ...when they can log into this flawed site).

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                  Harm Millaard Level 7

                  I don't understand your problem, select the clips, group them if you want, drag them to another track and possibly another location on the timeline and drop them and you're done. Just move the clips on the lower track to a higher track by drag and drop, move the clips from the higher track to a lower track by drag and drop. What is your problem?

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                    the_wine_snob Level 9

                    Craig,

                     

                    I've thought about filing a Feature Request for an easy way to do this. I find that I'm always having to do the Create Tracks/Delete Tracks in my Audio. I've hesitated, as it might well cause more problems than I could ever imagine. It would need to be a hot-spot, but one that was locked by default, until you needed it.

                     

                    Also, I was one of those, who campaigned for indented replies in this forum, when the changeover occurred. I got it, but did not anticipate the exact implementation. Boy did I ever mess up with that request - it's a "be careful of what you wish for" situation.

                     

                    Maybe nows a good time to run the idea of movable Tracks past the group, to get comments and thoughts. I could see it being useful, so long as the user was locked out, until the "switch" was thrown. What do you think? I'll start the Feature Request, if everyone gets on board.

                     

                    Hunt

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                      Suntower Level 1

                      the_wine_snob wrote:

                       

                      Kinda' wish there was a hot-spot on each Track, that one could click-drag on, but then that might REALLY mess things up, if one were not careful.

                       

                      Good luck,

                       

                      Hunt

                      That's what I was hoping for. I come from the audio editing world where such a feature is standard on -every- program in the market. I'm constantly surprised by what can be done with Premiere, but also by some pretty glaring holes --- such as this.

                       

                      Follow up:

                       

                      Is there a way to see the 'real' track number along side the track -name-? I rename my tracks 'Narrator', 'Wideshot', etc. but then when adding new tracks, the tracks are referred to by their -number-. I wish I could see -both- side by side so when I add a track I know where it's going without having to count the track #s.

                       

                      Thanks for the reply.

                       

                      ---JC

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                        shooternz Level 6

                        When the new track targeting "system" was implimented  (CS4), it would have been the ideal  opportunity to have been able to reorder the tracks  from the header  by drag and drop or similar method.

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                          the_wine_snob Level 9

                          JC,

                           

                          Is there a way to see the 'real' track number along side the track -name-? I rename my tracks 'Narrator', 'Wideshot', etc. but then when adding new tracks, the tracks are referred to by their -number-. I wish I could see -both- side by side so when I add a track I know where it's going without having to count the track #s.

                           

                          Not that I am aware of. I also rename all of my Tracks, especially my Audio Tracks. You might want to rethink your naming convention, and say do "1 Camera 01," etc. That would get your number out front, so you do not have to expand the Track header to see it all. I do similar with my Audio Tracks, as I find them more difficult to keep a handle on. For me, it's AV Audio 01, SFX Mono 01, SFX Mono 02, SFX Stereo 01, Music Front 01, etc.

                           

                          Video Tracks are often left with just the PrPro Track numbers, until I get to Track Matte, or Lower Third 01 Titles.

                           

                          Just remember that the Track numbers in PrPro go up from the bottom for Video Tracks and down from the top for Audio Tracks. When you do go to Add Tracks, look at the drop-down menu for positions relative to the targeted Track.

                           

                          Good luck, and sorry that there's now a really easy way to do much of this.

                           

                          Hunt

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                            Suntower Level 1

                            Thanks. At least this saves me the trouble of scouring through the docs and feeling stupid that I can't find it.

                             

                            Both these features seem so self-evident (to -me- anyways). Sorry to be a pest. I do love the program.

                             

                            Cheers,

                             

                            ---JC

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                              the_wine_snob Level 9

                              JC,

                               

                              Thanks. At least this saves me the trouble of scouring through the docs and feeling stupid that I can't find it.

                               

                              A lot of this sort of info will likely not be in either the manual (do they still do those?), or the Help file directly. Basically, it's a workaround combining elements of the Sequence operations. I'd guess that Help would have all of the individual elements, but probably not a "connect the dots," sort of section. It'd be like ordering from a Chinese menu - "oh, you mean that I can have 1 from each column A and B?" The fora are a good place to find out how to "conect those dots."

                               

                              Now, thinking about my Feature Request, I wonder if CS4's Track Targeting would get in the way, or be harmed in any way???? Still, would be nice to do easily, when you want to do it.

                               

                              Good luck,

                               

                              Hunt

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                                shooternz Level 6
                                Now, thinking about my Feature Request, I wonder if CS4's Track Targeting would get in the way, or be harmed in any way???? Still, would be nice to do easily, when you want to do it.

                                 

                                 

                                Of course it would.  A simultaneous "fix and a break" is what we have come to expect isn it? 

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                                  the_wine_snob Level 9

                                  Craig,

                                   

                                  That is probably too correct. That's why I posed the question in this thread, BEFORE I filed the Feature Request. I think that it was you, in the Lounge some time back, who commented (in only half gest), that all Feature Requests MUST be passed around, so nothing got broken, because of them. There is wisdom in that joke, as we all know too well.

                                   

                                  Hunt

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                                    Suntower Level 1

                                    Maybe it's my ADHD personality, but I -hate- the current trend in OLH. Clicking on 'help' brings me to the Adobe web site rather than what I -want- which is a FRICKIN' BOOK, like the good ol' days.

                                     

                                    And AFA 'tasks', if I want to learn a sequence of steps? I gotta watch a FRICKIN' VIDEO. I don't -want- to watch videos. I want to get the info FAST like in good ol' fashioned cook book.

                                     

                                    Clearly, I'm dating myself. But all these gee whiz 'help' features actually slow me down... which is why I post these seemingly noob questions. It's actually a LOT faster to ask -here- than to wade through the Adobe Web Site.

                                     

                                    In the 'be careful what you wish for' category, perhaps Adobe will come out with a MACRO FACILITY or KEYSTROKE RECORDER for this sort of thing.

                                     

                                    You guys are great.

                                     

                                    ---JC

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                                      shooternz Level 6

                                      Couldnt agree more.

                                       

                                      Much has been written about actual Help Manuals ( in book form).   

                                       

                                      We all loved the smell of them.

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                                        Eddie Lotter Level 4

                                        I want to get the info FAST like in good ol' fashioned cook book.

                                         

                                        I find the fastest way to search for a term in the manual is to use the PDF version of the manual. Much quicker than paging through a hardcopy hoping my aging eyes don't miss something.

                                         

                                        On the other hand, I can curl up in bed with a hard copy.

                                         

                                        Cheers
                                        Eddie