13 Replies Latest reply on Sep 2, 2009 10:12 AM by the_wine_snob

    broadcast quality from flash

    weblo

      We have made a 30 sec flash TV ad, it has majorly cartoon animation. We have made sure the RGB colors are between 16 and 235 range and flash movie is 25 fps

      The process we followed is exporting the png files from FlashCS3 and converting them to targa files from Photoshop, then importing in Premiere 3.0, add the sequence in a video layer, add audio. I have tried different option but still I am not getting the result as we have in .swf file. The best result I get is with Cinepak Codek by Radius and exporting as Microsoft avi.

      Can anyone advice how can we get the quality like we have in .swf, and what codec we require to convert to H.264?

        • 1. Re: broadcast quality from flash
          Jim_Simon Level 8

          It may simply not be possible to achieve what you want, depending on the original specifications.  Video is limited in resolution, whereas Flash is not.

           

          What are the original Flash settings?  What project settings are you using?  What export settings?

          • 2. Re: broadcast quality from flash
            weblo Level 1
            Original Flash Setting - 25fps, size 720 x 576 - Expoting as png files and converting into Targa in Photoshop
            Project setting in Adobe Premiere -
            DV-PAL Widescreen

            Desc.
            For editing with IEEE1394 (FireWire/i.LINK) DV equipment.
            Widescreen PAL video (16:9 interlaced).
            48kHz (16 bit) audio.
            General
            Editing mode: DV PAL
            Timebase: 25.00 fps
            Video Settings
            Frame size: 720h 576v (1.422)
            Frame rate: 25.00 frames/second
            Pixel Aspect Ratio: D1/DV PAL Widescreen 16:9 (1.422)
            Fields: Lower Field First
            Audio Settings
            Sample rate: 48000 samples/second
            Capture Format
            DV Capture
            Video Rendering
            Maximum Bit Depth: Off
            Preview File Format: DV PAL
            Compressor: DV PAL
            Color depth: Millions of colors
            Default Sequence
            Total video tracks: 3
            Master track type: Stereo
            Mono tracks: 0
            Stereo tracks: 3
            5.1 tracks: 0
            Submix mono tracks: 0
            Submix stereo tracks: 0
            Submix 5.1 tracks: 0
            Export Setting
            Filetype - Microsoft avi
            Compresoor - Cinepak Codek by Radius
            Pixel Ratio - Di/DV PAL WD 16:9
            • 3. Re: broadcast quality from flash
              Jim_Simon Level 8

              OK, three things I see.

               

              First, why a widescreen project?  Your Flash settings seem to be standard 4:3 material.

               

              Second, the Flash export will be progressive, yet you seem to be working in an interlaced project.

               

              Third, the Cinepak codec is probably the worst choice you could have.  Get yourself the Lagarith codec installed.

              • 4. Re: broadcast quality from flash
                weblo Level 1

                Jim, thanks for the reply.

                First, why a widescreen project?  Your Flash settings seem to be standard 4:3 material. - The TV stations need 16:9 aspect ratio


                Second, the Flash export will be progressive, yet you seem to be working in an interlaced project. - Didn't had a clue sorry. I changed to No Fields(Progressive Scan) under Rendering Options now.


                Third, the Cinepak codec is probably the worst choice you could have.  Get yourself the Lagarith codec installed. - wow, what a difference, thanks a lot, only the movie looks vertical stretched, I mean the width is reduced and height is increased, but the quality is fabulous

                • 5. Re: broadcast quality from flash
                  Jim_Simon Level 8
                  The TV stations need 16:9 aspect ratio

                   

                  But you don't have 16:9 material.  So you need to work in a 4:3 project.

                   

                  I changed to No Fields(Progressive Scan) under Rendering Options now.

                   

                  That may not be good enough.  You should start a new Progressive project.

                   

                  only the movie looks vertical stretched

                   

                  That's because you're working in an improper widescreen project.  You need 4:3.

                  • 6. Re: broadcast quality from flash
                    weblo Level 1

                    I have the flash animation in 720 x 576, so should i change the size of the animation in flash and export it? any recommended size  for PAL broadcasting with aspect ratio of 16:9

                    • 7. Re: broadcast quality from flash
                      Martin Rose

                      1024x576 square pixel and 4x3 video safe

                      Export from flash png or bmp

                      Import to PP3 using your posted settings

                       

                       

                      What have you been asked to deliver ?

                      file or tape

                       

                      Martin

                      • 8. Re: broadcast quality from flash
                        weblo Level 1

                        Thanks Martin. We are asked to deliver the file in any of following formats

                         

                        • H.264 (preferred format)
                        • Photo JPEG
                        • Motion JPEG (A or B)
                        • Mpeg 2 at 25mpbs
                        • 9. Re: broadcast quality from flash
                          Jim_Simon Level 8

                          Import to PP3 using your posted settings

                           

                          That would not be good.  He needs to start a new project with the correct settings to match the Flash settings.

                          • 10. Re: broadcast quality from flash
                            weblo Level 1

                            Ok if I make flash animation in 1024x576 square pixel and 4x3 video safe, and import the files in Premiere 3, will the following settings be fine for new project?

                             

                            DV-PAL - Widescreen 48khz

                            Editing mode: DV PAL
                            Timebase: 25.00 fps

                            Video Settings
                            Frame size: 720h 576v (1.422)
                            Frame rate: 25.00 frames/second
                            Pixel Aspect Ratio: D1/DV PAL Widescreen 16:9 (1.422)
                            Fields: Lower Field First

                            Audio Settings
                            Sample rate: 48000 samples/second

                            Capture Format
                            DV Capture

                            Video Rendering
                            Maximum Bit Depth: Off
                            Preview File Format: DV PAL
                            Compressor: DV PAL
                            Color depth: Millions of colors

                            Default Sequence
                            Total video tracks: 3
                            Master track type: Stereo
                            Mono tracks: 0
                            Stereo tracks: 3
                            5.1 tracks: 0
                            Submix mono tracks: 0
                            Submix stereo tracks: 0
                            Submix 5.1 tracks: 0

                            • 11. Re: broadcast quality from flash
                              Jim_Simon Level 8
                              will the following settings be fine for new project?

                               

                              DV-PAL - Widescreen 48khz

                              Editing mode: DV PAL


                               

                              No.  You'd need a Desktop project.  Your work flow does not match any standard camera formats, so there are no correct presets.  You have to make your own.

                              • 12. Re: broadcast quality from flash
                                weblo Level 1

                                Hi Guys,

                                 

                                Finally got the advt up and running on TV. Many thanks to Jim and Martin.

                                 

                                Cheers

                                Shashi

                                • 13. Re: broadcast quality from flash
                                  the_wine_snob Level 9
                                  Finally got the advt up and running on TV.

                                   

                                  Good news and thanks for reporting,

                                   

                                  Hunt