13 Replies Latest reply: Jul 28, 2009 7:17 AM by John T Smith RSS

    AVI files

    Adrian-Aust Community Member

      I was recently sent AVI from a client taken by a Canon DIGITAL IXUS 860 camera. On Importing the files ito Prem Pro CS4 the file would not play in the source monitor, but would play in Encore CS4?

        • 1. Re: AVI files
          John T Smith CommunityMVP

          Go here http://ppro.wikia.com/wiki/Troubleshooting

           

          Scroll down to the FINALLY section, where there is a list of questions

           

          Q1 has a link to GSPOT that will tell you the actual codec inside that avi wrapper

          • 2. Re: AVI files
            Bill Hunt CommunityMVP

            This ARTICLE should give you some background on AVI files, like the material in John's link. You'll also see the rec. for G-Spot again.

             

            Remember that playing a file is totally different than editing that same file.

             

            Good luck,

             

            Hunt

            • 3. Re: AVI files
              Adrian-Aust Community Member

              Thank's John & Hunt down load GSpot, worked well. The file had a ver 1 codec. Converted using Adobe Media Encoder CS4 and the file now can be edited etc.

              Have tracked down another problem on our VISTA SP2 workstation, the latest NVIDA video driver (18.6) crashed PP CS4 and Encore CS4, changed back to 16.2 and both PP Encore now arc up.

              • 4. Re: AVI files
                John T Smith CommunityMVP

                When I finally decide my current computer is too slow (right now, starting an Encore as I go to bed so it will be done in the morning is fast enough) I am looking at building an Intel i7 computer and using Win7 64bit and CS5... if CS5 is 64bit

                 

                I will NEVER use an nVidia video card !!!

                 

                My first editing computer (ready made Alienware with P3 processor and Win2k) had an nVidia card, and I also had the problem of one, and ONLY one video driver would fully work... anything older had minor problems (the driver that came with it, which I had to upgrade by trial and error to find a good version) and anything newer just wouldn't work at all

                 

                I have had good luck with my current ATI card, so will use one when I build new

                 

                Some other converters http://paul.glagla.free.fr/dvdate_en.htm and http://www.deskshare.com/

                • 5. Re: AVI files
                  Adrian-Aust Community Member

                  If you are looking at building a new PC we have just built a Win 7 workstation:

                   

                  CPU....Intel BX80601975 CORE i7 975 3.33GHz 4.8GT QPI 8MB CACHE LGA1366
                  Main Board.... Intel DX58SO X58 ATX DDR3 LGA1366 QPI 3xPCIex x16 GIGA LAN
                  Hard Drive....Intel SSDSA2MH080G1C1 2.5" SATA SOLID STATE DRIVE 80GB
                  Hard Drive....Western Digital 1TB Caviar GP SATAII 7200RPM
                  Video Card....XFX PCIe HD4890 1GB
                  Memory..Kingston KVR1333D3N9K3/6G 6GB 1333MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM (Kit of 3)
                  Blu-ray Burner....Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray Dual Layer SATA
                  O/S...64bit Windows 7 Ultimate

                  I am looking at changing the ram to Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D 6GB (3x 2GB) PC-12800 (1600MHz) DDR3

                   

                  With the Intel DX58SODX58SO Main board I could not find any fast 3x4GB ram modules so at present I am stuck with 6GB.

                   

                  Both PP CS4 and Encore CS4 crashed on this workstation. But this may be the .AVI files in the project.

                   

                  To get the project finished I recreated the project on a 32bit work Vista SP2 workstation and converted the .AVI files to DV type 2AVI and so far the project has not crashed. To get PP CS4 & Encore CS4 to run I had to drop the Nvida driver version back a number of versions.

                   

                  When I get time I will move the project back to the Win 7 workstation to see if in fact it was the .AVI files that caused the crash when saving.

                  Adobe have been very quite re the drivers for the ATI 4890 video cards on a 64bit Win 7 system.

                  • 6. Re: AVI files
                    John T Smith CommunityMVP

                    Since Win7 is only at Release Candidate, not "real" as yet, I am not at all surprised that you have problems or that Adobe hasn't said anything about updates

                     

                    Once Win7 is "real" later this year, I expect Adobe will annouce or release products... hopefully for the 64bit version, since that is what I am looking at building next year

                     

                    I also looked at the Intel motherboard (my last 2 motherboards have been Intel, and have been rock solid... other than the problem I mention about the nVidia driver, which is not Intel's fault) and am hoping 4gig ram sticks will be available by time I am ready to build... otherwise, I'll go with an Asus or Gigabyte motherboard with 6 ram slots to get 12Gig with 2Gig ram sticks

                     

                    I do NOT plan to overclock !!!

                    • 7. Re: AVI files
                      Bill Hunt CommunityMVP

                      Some have had positive results with Win7 and Adobe. Others have not been so lucky. It seems that two recent builds broke some systems with Adobe programs. As a beta-tester pointed out on another forum, their "builds" were very likely torrent downloads, and not official MS builds. Who knows?

                       

                      I'm with John, in that I will probably not go with Win7, until at least SP-1. Then, I'll have a new workstation and there should be plenty of reports from the field, on how best to setup Win7 for Adobe programs, as that is about all I use very often.

                       

                      I gave up on beta testing, especially with regard to OS's, long ago. I could not see dedicating a brand new, high-end computer, just to test for MS, or for anybody else. Now, when I build a workstation, it goes to work right away, even if the OS is not the latest, or newest. I just need for it to be bullet prood and work for me and my clients.

                       

                      Good luck,

                       

                      Hunt

                      • 8. Re: AVI files
                        Adrian-Aust Community Member

                        On the issue of services packs...I have just been informed from Adobe that they do not support Vista SP2!!!!!!!!

                         

                        All our workstations run Vista Ultimate SP2.

                        • 9. Re: AVI files
                          Adrian-Aust Community Member

                          I aggree, we have allways used Intel main boards with out any problems.

                          • 10. Re: AVI files
                            Neil Wilkes CommunityMVP

                            the_wine_snob wrote:

                             

                            I'm with John, in that I will probably not go with Win7, until at least SP-1. Then, I'll have a new workstation and there should be plenty of reports from the field, on how best to setup Win7 for Adobe programs, as that is about all I use very often.

                             

                            I gave up on beta testing, especially with regard to OS's, long ago. I could not see dedicating a brand new, high-end computer, just to test for MS, or for anybody else. Now, when I build a workstation, it goes to work right away, even if the OS is not the latest, or newest. I just need for it to be bullet prood and work for me and my clients.

                             

                            Good luck,

                             

                            Hunt

                            +1 on this chain of thought.

                            I will also only shift to Windows 7 on SP1, and have avoided Vista completely as the vast majority of the applications I need to work with are either

                            A - 32-bit only, so no point going to Vista given it's 32-bit performance is worse than XP SP2 is, or

                            B - simply not available at all for Vista, and never will be.

                             

                            I won't run the RC versions of W7 either, simnply for the reasons given above - I need stability, and reliability more than raw power - I still haven't really found the limits of my current setup (Q6700 Quad Core on 15,000 RPM SCSI HDD throughout) asthe bulk of the video work I do is single stream stuff, mainly for Post Production - I just don't understand film/video editing very well and am not talented in that field so prefer to ignore it.

                             

                            Also a big plus to "never again" with NVidia cards. Over rated, and under powered.

                            • 11. Re: AVI files
                              John T Smith CommunityMVP

                              Well, I have ruled out the Intel DX58SO since it does not have an IDE controller so I can't use a brand new DVD writer I have (to save $$ on buying a Sata version) plus it does not have a floppy controller so I can't run a floppy based disk utililty I have

                               

                              I have narrowed my search to the Asus P6T or Gigabyte EX58-UD4P both of which get good reviews at http://www.techspot.com/

                               

                              One of these days I'm going to lay everything out in a spreadsheet so I can compare features side by side and then select the motherboard brand

                              • 12. Re: AVI files
                                Neil Wilkes CommunityMVP

                                John T Smith wrote:

                                 

                                Well, I have ruled out the Intel DX58SO since it does not have an IDE controller so I can't use a brand new DVD writer I have (to save $$ on buying a Sata version) plus it does not have a floppy controller so I can't run a floppy based disk utililty I have

                                 

                                I have narrowed my search to the Asus P6T or Gigabyte EX58-UD4P both of which get good reviews at http://www.techspot.com/

                                 

                                One of these days I'm going to lay everything out in a spreadsheet so I can compare features side by side and then select the motherboard brand

                                I can state categorically that I will never buy another ASUS board either (in addition to the NVIdia boycott).

                                I have a couple of ASUS based systems here, my Commando DAW (where the onboard FireWire has just died for no good reason) and my partners PC-DL Deluxe. And that sucker is a nightmare.

                                It took 5 to get one that actualy POSTed up properly.

                                And that one seems to be so problematic it's not funny either.

                                Contrast this with a couple of older Gigabyte based setups, and there is frankly no competition.

                                • 13. Re: AVI files
                                  John T Smith CommunityMVP

                                  Hmm... interesting note about the Asus MB's

                                   

                                  I work at Washington State University, at a branch campus with about1200-1500 computers connected to the campus network

                                   

                                  The IT department has in the past just bought very expensive Dell servers when upgrading the network

                                   

                                  New IT head, and budget cutbacks due to the economy, mean that a new building coming on line next month will have 4 new servers (going to be 200+ computers in the building) and all 4 are being built here... with Gigabyte motherboards

                                   

                                  I don't know the OS (a version of Unix, I think) but I did see all the parts laid out in the setup room before they started building, which is why I added the Gigabyte board to my short list

                                   

                                  Now, I may have to give added points to Gigabyte... thanks for the real world comments