12 Replies Latest reply: Jul 13, 2009 4:46 PM by the_wine_snob RSS

    How to change source resolution?

    jaso232

      Here's an image of what I'm talking about, hopefully someone can help me. I have Googled and searched many forums, cannot find a solution to this seemingly easy problem =/



      The original Fraps video is 1280x1024 and it is displayed completely in the source monitor, but the program (output) monitor on the right shows that the final video is going to be 720x480, and so does the export settings box when I try to export the timeline / final product. I have looked at project settings and preferences, I do not see any kind of options that lets me change that, does it have anything to do with having the capture format on DV?

       

       

      http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/Xuerion/Untitled-2.jpg

        • 1. Re: How to change source resolution?
          Harm Millaard Community Member

          DV is 720x480, so yeah, this is caused by your settings. I suggest you start reading the manual or help file, follow tutorials and get a basic education in video editing.

           

          If you want Fraps resolution, set up a desktop sequence with the correct dimensions. The manual or help file will spell it out.

          • 2. Re: How to change source resolution?
            the_wine_snob Community Member

            As Harm points out, you want your Project/Sequence settings to match your source footage. In CS4 you CAN change your Sequence settings, where before, you had to start a new Project with the proper settings.

             

            At Export, you can then alter to output to what you need. If you are going to DVD-Video, you might want to look in this, and the CS3 forum for several articles by Dan Isaacs on down-rezing from HD to SD. He has put together a very good workflow for the best possible quality for this.

             

            There are also several recent threads on working with FRAPS material. I do not recall all of the issues, or all of the replies, but I think that Dan might have contributed to several of those too. I believe that all of the FRAPS threads were in the CS4 forum.

             

            Good luck,

             

            Hunt

             

            [Edit] PS also look for threads on Camtasia and CamStudio, as they are somewhat similar to FRAPS and maybe some suggestions will translate directly to your motion-capture software.

             

            Message was edited by: the_wine_snob - added PS

            • 3. Re: How to change source resolution?
              jaso232 Community Member

              I actually have already looked at the help files and tutorials, as well as many other sites and forums... I spent the whole morning on it and decided to ask here. I figured it was the DV but I cannot find anything related to that or how to change it, as I only have 1 option: DV in Capture Format.

               

              I'm sorry for sounding lazy or rude, but I hope someone will just give me a straightforward answer as to how to fix it, so I can stop looking and continue finishing my video =/

               

              So do I need to download something? Another Codec? To change the Capture Format...

               

               

               

              Thanks

               

               

               

              EDIT: To Harm, if what you're talking is the same tutorial files on this website: the videos and the articles and such, then I have looked through them, if is another manual you're talking about please direct me to it, or if one of those tutorials actually shows me how, either there is none stating how to get a new capture format or my searching abilities is inadequate.

               

              To wine: Is not the Fraps that's the problem, and I have changed the export settings, I actually made videos with this before, all I did was "Scale to Frame" on the timeline, but now I changed my desktop resolution to 1280x1024 instead of 1024x768, scale to frame reduces the quality and size way too much.

              • 4. Re: How to change source resolution?
                Harm Millaard Community Member
                I spent the whole morning on it and decided to ask here

                 

                If you expect to learn PR in a single morning, you will be disappointed. It may take many months or more, depending on your learning speed.

                A consumer application like Magix or WMM you may learn in a single morning, not a Pro package like PR. I've told you how to go about it.

                 

                Your problem may be that the scaling you used causes some problems. I really don't know since I only use material from video cameras, not from games and the like.

                • 5. Re: How to change source resolution?
                  the_wine_snob Community Member
                  To wine: Is not the Fraps that's the problem, and I have changed the export settings, I actually made videos with this before, all I did was "Scale to Frame" on the timeline, but now I changed my desktop resolution to 1280x1024 instead of 1024x768, scale to frame reduces the quality and size way too much.

                   

                  If your Project/Sequence matches your FRAPS footage, then you will not need to worry about Scale to Frame. It will match perfectly.

                   

                  Then, when edited, you can Export to about any logical Frame Size you want. What is your intended delivery scheme, BTW - maybe I just missed it.

                   

                  Also, I have also not thought that any reply was rude, or that you were being lazy. I'm just throwing out suggestions for other discussions on FRAPS and similar programs with use with PrPro. If you have not seen THIS ONE, might be worth a read.

                   

                  Good luck,

                   

                  Hunt

                  • 6. Re: How to change source resolution?
                    jaso232 Community Member

                    Is getting closer, however I'm not looking to create a DVD.

                    My purpose: Combine the Fraps files, edit, add effects, and export it back out in Premiere Pro, then compress with VirtualDub and sending it to my friends over AIM/MSN or direct file sharing services.

                     

                    I am not looking to become professional at Premiere either, I guess I'm more of a  Photoshop/Flash person, just looking for an answer to a quick problem on Premiere.

                     

                    http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/Xuerion/Untitled-3.jpghttp://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/Xuerion/Untitled2-1.jpg

                     

                    I believe that this is the problem, I hope I am on the right track at lesat. I would like to know how to get another codec option or make it so that I can extend my capture beyond 720x480, the output comes out 1280x1024, but the video itself is still cut to 720x480, and made bigger to fix 1280x1024.

                     

                    And I'm sorry Harm, but I still don't see the files you're talking about, all I see is the online tutorials and articles on this website, and I have watched them, that is what I spent this morning doing, and I do not see how to change the source format away from 720x480, is there a huge PDF readme somewhere that I am missing, because that is what I thought you meant by manual.

                     

                    Edit: Just clarifying, I am not capturing from another device, I have all the videos, imagine that Fraps isn't there either, I got 3 AVI video files that are originally 1280x1024, and I want to keep it that way when I export it back out, and export settings is not the problem.

                     

                     

                    Thanks

                    • 7. Re: How to change source resolution?
                      the_wine_snob Community Member

                      In your Project Settings, use Desktop Project 1280 x 1024. You can set your FPS (Frames per Second) there too. What is the Frame Rate of the FRAPS Capture? It should be Progressive, I would assume.

                       

                      The Export settings will be determined in AME (Adobe Media Encoder) when you go to Export. I do not believe that Capture settings will make any difference. As for the Export, you can choose the Frame Size and then a format/CODEC that VirtualDub will ingest.

                       

                      Good luck,

                       

                      Hunt

                      • 8. Re: How to change source resolution?
                        jaso232 Community Member

                        The video I Frapped is at 60 FPS, and it is Progressive.

                         

                        "In your Project Settings, use Desktop Project 1280 x 1024." This is closer to my problem, I cannot find that kind of settings. I looked under all the settings I can find, there is no Desktop Project 1280 x 1024, is there some kind of prerequisite to get that option?

                         

                        What I did: Project Tab on Menu Bar > Project Settings > General, I have looked under all the options (Under video there is timecode, feet + frames, frames), audio samples/miliseconds, and only DV under capture format.

                         

                         

                         

                        I highly doubt it is the export setting problem, as in my first screenshot, the export setting is at 1280x1024, just the source resolution shows 720x480, and only the timeline is 720x480, rest of the videos I imported are still 1280x1024, just that when I put them in the timeline under a sequence. In the sequence setting, under video preview, there is still only Microsoft AVI DV NTSC, no other options.

                         

                        When I export it in 1280x1024, it shows that size, but the video is only 720x480, meaning the rest is cut off and all I see is a cropped version of the video, enlarged to 1280x1024, that is the problem I am having =(

                         

                         

                        Thanks for your time

                         

                         

                        Edit: I believe we are on the right track, I have read earlier today about changing project settings to the same FPS and resolution as my source videos, but I cannot find such options, which I believe is my problem.

                        • 9. Re: How to change source resolution?
                          the_wine_snob Community Member

                          These are screen-caps from PrPro 2.0, but they should be very similar:

                           

                          PrPro_DeskTop_01.jpg

                          Getting started with Desktop in the Custom Settings Tab

                           

                          PrPro_Desktop_02.jpg

                           

                          Settings in Desktop Mode.

                           

                          Hope that these help and good luck,

                           

                          Hunt

                          • 10. Re: How to change source resolution?
                            Harm Millaard Community Member

                            Here are the settings in CS4:

                             

                            14-07-2009 00-48-58.jpg

                            • 11. Re: How to change source resolution?
                              jaso232 Community Member

                              Thanks so much to both of you for your time and explanations! That is it! It must be in a new sequence, can't change existing. I knew the solution would make me feel stupid =) Thanks a lot for your help.

                              • 12. Re: How to change source resolution?
                                the_wine_snob Community Member

                                Glad that you got it going. Back in pre-CS4 days, you would have had to create a new Project with the Desktop Presets and Settings. As of CS4, you can do it via a New Sequence - makes things a bit easier.

                                 

                                Also, with so many possible Settings for so very much, it can be difficult to find just the one that you need.

                                 

                                Good luck,

                                 

                                Hunt