1) DirectSelect the baseline, and the baseline only (so that no Bounding Box shows);
2) Effect>Path>Outline Object;
3) Apply gradient;
Can't seem to get it to work though, the gradient still applies to the whole word.
This will work in CS3 right?
It works in 10, so it should.
When the type is selected, the Appearance palette (in 10) says:
You are sure you 1) DirectSelected the Type (actually, you may drag across it)?
When you 2) Effect>Path>Outline Object, you should see a slight thickening of the letters.
Will someone with a newer version, preferably CS3 or CS4, please try and see whether the method still works or you actually have a downgrade?
As mentioned in another thread, I have an upload issue. When it is over, I can post an image of the individual letter gradients.
Ya I'm following those same steps.
I see the slight thickening of the letter when the outline object effect is applied.
But when I select the type, and try to apply a gradient via the swatches pallete, nothing happens. I can apply a color fill, but not a gradient.
My mistake, totally. I'm sorry. Wrong thread.
But since I'm here, I'll tell you what gives me this result.
Write Text, add gradient fill, you might not see it, but it is applied.
Expand your text, and then you get individual gradient on each one.
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Once the text is expanded, it's not longer editable.
The solution offered here before is a valid one:
Use the Selection tool to select the text (it's an object)
Apply the Effect: Path > Outline Object (it's an efect that's reversible and allows text edition)
The appearance panel shows the effect. (Just make sure there is no added fill, as it would apply to the object, each and every letter.)
Select each character with the Text Tool, to apply now a different fill with a different gradient or colour.
Back to the Appearance panel, with the selection tool, the Type object will not show any fill. Fills are applied at the characters level (selected with the text tool) and i's possible to use gradients just because they have been previously "effect- outlined".
Which version? Hopefully one of the latest.
As I said in another recent thread: DS Jackie Reid would have said: This is seriously strange.
And the restrictive use of DirectSelecting is not even necessary: as Federico says, Selecting is enough.
Do you stick to the steps of the method with nothing added? I have thought that maybe some additional step may cause its non working.
Jacob's method works perfectly for me in AI 10 and 12 (CS2). I would modify his instructions slightly, however.
As Frederico has suggested, there is no need to "DirectSelect" the text object. For one thing, you don't get the bounding box when you use the direct selection tool. Also, "baseline" means something very specific in typography, so just ignore that. You can just select the text object with the regular selection tool (black arrow) before applying the path effect.
Here, I have applied the method (using the default gradient) to a text object in AI 12, then edited the text after the gradient was applied, demonstrating that we do indeed have live text:
All really appreciate all this help, dudes, but it's just not working for me. Frustrating...
The only thing I can thing of is that maybe it's a CS3 thing? I don't have the opportunity to test in a different version of illustrator unfortunately
Here's the steps I'm going through.
1. Type tool - create some point text
2. Select Text with Black Arrow Tool
3. Choose Effect > Path > Outline Object
4. Click on a gradient
5. Click on gradient repeatedly, tear out hair, scream, etc.
I've tried selecting letters individually with the type tool and that was a no go
Haven't the slightest idea why this isn't working for you. Have you quit Illustrator, maybe trashed preferences, then tried in a fresh document?
Two other things about the Outline Object technique, one interesting, one useful:
1. The gradient can only be adjusted in the gradient panel; the onboard annotator will not appear when you make the gradient tool active.
2. The real power of Jacob's technique is that, once the gradient is applied and visible, you can change the color, direction, style of each individual character's gradient. Select an individual glyph with the text tool. Now adjust the gradient in the gradient panel to your heart's content.
I'm not able to get this to work in CS3 either. Can anyone else confirm that they can? CS4?
4. Click on a gradient
Where are you clicking... exactly?
Reset CS3 preferences, no change to CS3 behavior
I've tried clicking on gradient swatches in the swatches pallete and on the large gradient thumbnail in the gradient pallete
I've even tried dragging a gradient swatch onto the selected text
OK. Going back over your appearance palette screen captures, I see that your type has a gradient fill attribute even before you apply the path effect. I have no idea how you get that, but it could be messing things up.
Try with a clean slate. New document... set type with black fill, no stroke... go immediately to selection tool... apply path effect... etc.
Just tested in CS4 - it works there. CS3, it does not work.
This has gotta be a CS3 bug. An irritating one at that.
Thanks for all the help though.
Well, confirmed here too. It doesn't work in CS3, so yeah, you'd have to convert it to oultines.
I have CS3 and it does not work either.
Sorry, Prepresspro1. That is not the effect the OP is trying to achieve. Please reread the title of the topic and the posts themselves carefully.
Yeah, I the one who should be sorry. I should have read the OP more closely. If I come up with anything which will actually help I will post.
The method described in post #1 used to work in conjunction with almost any vector effect. That means it's not specifically the Outline Object effect that does the trick.
So, CS 3 users might want to try another vector effect such as the Roughen effect or one of the Warp effects before applying the gradient. If that won't work either, then there is something basically broken in Illustrator 13.
Seems that's the case. It still won't apply the gradient (as specified) with a roughened, warped, outlined text object.
Just a thought for a very non-technical work-around - which is deeply disatisfying from the point of view of what should be possible, and
may be completely inappropriate if you have a lot of text:
You could create each letter as a separate piece of type then align them all and apply the fill to each one.
but I think that would be just about as difficult as converting the text to outlines