Exactly how did you mange to paste the text as a pdf image?
Cannot reproduce this here on an original MacPro running 10.6 but it was not a problem in 10.5.8 either.
What applications are you trying to paste the text into?
I select the text (click and drag) in Illustrator, copy (command C) and paste into, say, an email message (command V). The pasted text is an image:
This is a jpg of some test text I pasted into Mail. The original was a PDF but they won't let me load a PDF here. Interestingly, when i paste the same text into Firefox, Safari, Photoshop, InDesign, Microsoft Word or TextWrangler it comes out as text. In TextEdit if I paste using "Past and Match Style" it's editable text. Regular paste makes it a PDF. Unfortunately this doesn't work in Mail, where it's always a PDF. Mail's the one I'm most concerned about since that's often where I want to paste the text!
This makes me think it's a System or app specific problem.
I'm not the only one with this problem:
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Into an e-mail yes into another application like ID or Photoshop it
Into Microsoft Word or Power point it works fine into text edit ti
works fine int the Mac Mail application no it does not work that way.
In Entourage it works fine.
In mac mail it does not work fine.
Interesting. Thanks for that, Wade. I was all set to blame Illustrator but now I'm thinking it must be the way Mail handles the clipboard. Rather annoying.
now I'm thinking it must be the way Mail handles the clipboard. Rather annoying.
Actually quite normal. Gill Sans is not a web-safe font, since it is not a font that comes as a default operating system font on Windows or Linux. The same would apply to many other fonts. Only Arial/ Helvetica, Times/Times New Roman, Courier and 2 or 3 otehrs more exist on any computer in this world or are used based on substitution rules when a reader opens a mail or HTML page and does not have the source font. Therefore I think it is quite logical that, assuming a mail program offers this comfort, it would render any non-standard font to an image to retain appearance. If you will, it's acting too smart. I'm sure, however, this feature can be turned off in Apple Mail (I'm not using it, so I have no clue where to look).
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The problem appeared with CS3 and was successfully transfer to CS4.
One thing you can do is to copy the text and paste it on "TextEdit" (free application that comes with any Mac). And from there, Copy the text and Paste it to any software/document you want.
I hope this helps!
Well, yes and no. I understand what you mean but whenever I'm copying text to a Mail message it's not crucial for me to retain the appearance. I'm usually try to shortcut some typing (especially for long sections of text) or asking a client about a line of text that appears in an illustration I'm working on. In these cases I would much rather include editable text than an uneditable PDF.
Also, Mail seems to be the only app that I've encountered so far that doesn't give me an option when pasting the text, which would be the really smart thing to do. Even if I compose the message in Plain Text it still does it.
According to Mail help these are the options:
Here are ways to paste text:
■ To paste text so that it retains its original format, choose Edit > Paste.
■ To paste text so that its format matches adjacent text, choose Edit > “Paste and Match Style.”
■ To paste text with a single quote bar to the left of the text, choose Edit > Paste as Quotation.
Tried them all, none work. There doesn't seem to be any preference setting either. I know there are work-arounds (paste to another app, copy and paste to Mail) but you'd think there'd be a simpler option within Mail itself. Maybe there is. I'll post it if I find out what it is.
Thanks, Skullmaker. I was afraid of that. I think there are a few copy/paste utilties that might do the same thing as well. I might give a couple of those a try. I used to use SideNote — that might do the trick.
iChat has the same issue, it really messes with my work flow! I use Mac Mail and iChat to communicate with my clients and others in my studio. Big pain! If anyone knows how to fix this please post!
In your Preferences in AI, what boxes are checked in File Handling and Clipboard?
Nothing is checked in File Handling preference, that was first place I looked. I unchecked PDF but that's for "Clipboard on Quit"..
I have both the PDF and AICB boxes checked. I can paste text from AI into both new messages in Apple Mail, Lotus Notes and Microsoft Entourage.
I checked both boxes and it's still pasting a PDF into my Mac Mail, Text Edit and iChat when I copy and paste text from Illustrator. I have CS4 by the way.. Any other ideas? I'm out of them..
In the Mail format menu, go to Make Plain Text. The text pasted from Illustrator can then be edited but not formatted. Best I can find. Even in rich text mode Illy text is editable in the header.
That's it! It worked. Thank you!
Now how do I fix it in iChat? There doesn't seem to be a plain text setting..
"Paste and Match Style" seems to be the best solution for iChat.
The problem was not the ability to paste, but the ability to edit. The OP was right, if you paste text copied from AI into Mail when it's set to rich text, then attempt to edit, the whole paste is selected, and all you can do is delete, deselect, or double click, which opens it as a PDF.
They are correct and the only to seemingly get the text into mail is to open it as a pdf in acrobat then select the text in Acrobat ad then paste it into Mail.
The question here is this a bug. How do you define a bug at first i said ni as how would this interfere with AI's workflow but if you were proofing text via e-mail you might need to have it editable on both ends.So even if this as designed it is still a bug.