When you scale down from HDV to SD you will always lose quality. Try Dan Isaac's method. And search for the tutorial from Jeff Bellune.
Thanks Harm for the suggestions,
but the problem is not in scaling.
The problem is in Premiere Exporting.
If I scale and export the same video in After Effects than I get a cris and clean image quality video.
But not so with Premiere. You can try it for your self.
Here are my samples:
Sample 1 - a frame from a DVD compressed with Premiere Pro CS4
Sample 2 - a frame from a DVD compressed with After Effects CS4
You can see the difference in the eyes. The after effects export is much more clean and crisp. Be aware that this is a DVD frame, so the video is already compressed. You would get a much more noticebale difference with a uncompressed video.
Is there anybody to confirm this problem?
1 person found this helpful
In the first scenario, the issue is likely operator error. A progressive Uncompressed output will naturally look better than an interlaced PAL output, or any of the other options you mentioned. You're basically not judging apples against apples here.
I don't work with HDV, so I'll leave others to comment on that one.
The difference between your two pictures is clear.
Can you detail the steps you took when exporting from AE into Encore, when exporting from PR to Encore and the transcoding settings used in all applications? What settings did you use with exporting with which codecs and encoding settings?
Thanks Jim and Harm!
Jim, I exported the animation in the 1. scenario as a progressive video. There was no interlacing and I still got bad results with Premiere.
Harm, I gathered for you fresh uncompressed image exports from Premiere and After Effects.
Sample 1 - Uncompressed Tiff from Premiere CS4
Sample 2 - Uncompressed Tiff from After Effects CS4
I don't think Encore has anything to do with this problem. Because the DVD (.m2v files) wasn't transcoded with Encore but with Premire and AE.
Anyway here are the DVD settings:
1. Premiere settings for the DVD:
PAL High Quality
Tv Standard: PAL
Frame W: 720
Frame H: 576
Pixel: 4:3 (1.09)
CBR: 8 MB
2. After Effects settings for the DVD:
Are exactly the same as Premieres. Fields are also Lower.
The video in AE was exported via Render Queue.
I still don't think that this is a issue of codecs. From my point of view it's still more likely that Premiere has an export bug.
Please try it out and let me know.
1 person found this helpful
I will try to replicate your problem, which is clearly visible, but maybe there is an easy way out:
In PR there is a fold out menu setting in the AME settings that allows you to use Maximum Render Quality.
Check that box and try again. I suspect that AE uses that as a default, in PR you have to check it.
Jim, I exported the animation in the 1. scenario as a progressive video.
From AE yes, but if you're using PAL presets and exports in Premiere, you have interlacing by default.
I tried not using a Preset and manualy selected a progressive (no fields) sequence and you were right, this way the image quality from PR is better and it looks like it's the same as in AE. I was a little shocked
And Harm, even though I don't have the Maximum Render Quality option (I don't know why) I tried out different options envolving form Jims suggestion and I think you guys just helped me to find the solution:
The HDV is a Upper field video with 1.333 pixel aspect ratio.
If you want to get the best video quality in PAL resolution with scaled HDV footage out of PR you need to first use a Progressive Sequence and export it as Progressive video. If you use a sequence with lower or upper fields you get worse image quality even though you export it as Progressive. This is some interesting stuff.
This option is true only for a PAL resolution export. If you export the HDV footage directly to HDV you naturally get the best quality with Upper fields, since this is the input field.
Jim and Harm Thanks again.
You just stopped me from switching to FinalCut to soon
Saved another one from moving to 'the dark side'.