6 Replies Latest reply: Oct 1, 2009 9:27 AM by Mike Wickham RSS

    How do you place a blank line between a line of text and an anchored frame?

    zeppm Community Member

      I use unstructured Frame 8.  In my document I have text that runs very close to the screen capture below it. I want a blank line between the text and anchored frame.  How do you do this, besides cutting the frame, pushing Enter, then pasting?

       

      Thanks!

        • 1. Re: How do you place a blank line between a line of text and an anchored frame?
          Art_Campbell Community Member

          If you want a real blank line, just insert an empty Body para tag.

           

          If what you really want is white space, drag the bottom of the anchored frame down to the baseline of the next line of text to expand the frame.

          If you want to automate it, you can create a white graphic box that's the depth of one line, say 14 points, and import it into the anchored frame at the bottom, under your real graphic. And you could group your real graphic and the spacer if you wanted.

           

          Art

          • 2. Re: How do you place a blank line between a line of text and an anchored frame?
            zeppm Community Member

            My lines of text have anchors on the bottom right of my paragraphs or lines.  When I press Enter and try to put in the blank line, the cursor skips past the frame.  I'm afraid with the white box solution I would end up with something not precise, as this is a hand exercise, and I'm not a good judge of that.  The graphic box idea is too complicated and time consuming, as I have a tight deadline right now.

             

            Any other ideas?

             

            Thanks!

            • 3. Re: How do you place a blank line between a line of text and an anchored frame?
              Art_Campbell Community Member

              OK, to start over, it's a better FM practice to use a special Anchor para tag to hold frames (and tables), so they aren't attached to lines of text. If you constructed your document that way, so that only the anchor of the anchored frame was in the Anchor paragraph, you could simply set the Space Below in the Anchor paragraph tag to give you the extra white space below the anchored frame.

               

              But you're also not understanding the white box suggestion. The "White Box" I'm suggesting couldn't be more precise. Go into Photoshop, Illusrator, SnagIt Editor, Paintshop Pro or another graphic tool of your choice and create an empty white graphic that's 11 -- or 12, or 13 points -- whatever your leading size is -- high; width doesn't matter. Import it into the anchored frame by reference and move it to the bottom of the frame under the existing graphic and group it with it.

              • 4. Re: How do you place a blank line between a line of text and an anchored frame?
                Arnis Gubins CommunityMVP

                The best way to control these sorts of things is to have a special paragraph that holds nothing but the the anchors for anchored frames and tables. That way you can control the spacings above and below.

                 

                To get the anchored frames out of the current paragraphs if they are, as you say, all anchored at the end of the paragraph is to place the cursor just before the anchor (make sure that you have the Text Symbols turned on in the View menu and use a high magnification - 200% or more). Then hit the Enter key. The anchor should now drop down to a separate paragraph. An alternate way (and perhaps easier way of you have a lot of of these to fix),  to quickly get at the anchored frame anchors, is to use the Find /Change and look for "Anchored Frame" in the Find line drop down list. When you get to an anchor, hit the LEFT-arrow key to move just before the anchor and then hit the Enter key.

                 

                Now apply your new anchor paratag to this paragraph and adjust the Spacing Above/Below and the Line Spacing entries to get the desired whitespace around your graphic. Make sure that you do an Update All on the properties for the anchor paratag so that all other anchored frames will have the same white space. Now repeat using the Find to adjust all of your anchored frames.

                • 5. Re: How do you place a blank line between a line of text and an anchored frame?
                  Reviewer1066 Community Member

                  If pressing Enter at the end of the line causes the blank line to appear AFTER the anchored frame, then press Ctrl+Z to undo and press the left arrow key to move the cursor BEFORE the anchored frame marker. Then press Enter. The problem is getting the insertion point before the marker.

                   

                  Or, select the anchored frame, cut it, press Enter to get the blank line, and paste the anchored frame from the clipboard.

                   

                  If you are starting from scratch, simply get in the habit of creating the blank line before importing the graphic. Art's suggestion is to give this blank line a special paragraph tag so that you know it is to be used only to hang an anchored frame, or table if you want to do that also.

                   

                  Van

                  • 6. Re: How do you place a blank line between a line of text and an anchored frame?
                    Mike Wickham Community Member

                    An added tip when you create an Anchor paragraph tag to hold anchors.

                    Uncheck the "Fixed" checkbox on the Basic tab of the Paragraph Designer and

                    set anchoring position to "At Insertion Point." If you leave the Fixed

                    checkbox checked, the anchored frame may overlap text above.