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    Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4

    Musti_HW Level 1

      Hi,

       

      I use Premiere Pro CS4, PhotoShop CS4, and Encore CS4.

       

      I' like build a low-budget PC. I have listed my selected components to build this computer based on i7-920 CPU. Can you please check whether they are a good choose, and hey can work together well?

       

      Some people say that i7-860 CPU is better than i7-920. But there are different opinions about this topic. I am a little bit confused. How about with Xeon 5506 CPU and a related dual core CPU motherboard? I need your suggestions. Thanks...


      Here are my choices

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      Case: Cooler Master CM 690 Pure

      Power Supply: Corsair HX 650W ATX 2.2

      Motherboard: ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution, X58 (triple PC3-10667U DDR3)

      Processor:
      Intel Core i7-920, 4x 2.67GHz

      Processor Cooling Fan:
      Zalman CNPS 10X Extreme (Sockel 775/1156/1366/754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3)

      Memory: Corsair XMS3 Dominator DIMM Kit 6GB PC3-12800U CL8-8-8-24 (DDR3-1600)

      Graphic/Video Card: NVIDIA QuadroFX 580, GeForce 9500 GT, 512MB GDDR3

      Hard Disk: 2 x Western Digital VelociRaptor 150GB, SATA II (as SATA RAID 1)

       

      Blue-ray Driver: LiteOn DH-4B1S, SATA

       

      Operating System: Windows 7, Ultimate Edition, 64bit

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      Best Regards

      Musti

        • 1. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
          Harm Millaard Level 7

          There is no use for two video cards. I would opt for an ATI HD 4xxx or nVidia GTX 2xx card and forget about a Quadro.

           

          The Revolution is more expensive than the DeLuxe V2 or WS Pro. When on a budget, what is the value added?

           

          Zalman would not be my first choice for CPU cooler. Either the Noctua NH-U12P or the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme would have my preference.

           

          Don't you want to edit? Get at least 3 additional large 7200 disks and don't use a raid1 on them.

           

          For memory go for 2 kits to bring up your memory to 12 GB. You may not need DDR3-1600 memory unless you want to over clock beyond 3.6 GHz. If you don't want to go that far, DDR-1333 is enough.

           

          Have a look at this: How to get the best from a PC? Some guides...

          and pay special attention to the section in the PC Buying guide about PSU requirements. Is 650 W enough for your configuration, possibly with a push-pull CPU cooler and the additional memory, hard disks, fans, etc.?

          • 2. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
            Harm Millaard Level 7

            Forgot to answer your other question about the Xeon 5506. It is severly crippled, no HT, half the cache of higher end CPU's so IMO a strict no go.

             

            The i7-860 and the i7-920 are about equal in performance. However the P55 chipset and the i7-8xx architecture have some drawbacks. See this article: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/489329

            • 3. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
              Musti_HW Level 1

              Hello Harm,

               

              thank you for your detailed feedback. Here are my notices:

               

              > I would opt for an ATI HD 4xxx or nVidia GTX 2xx card and forget about a Quadro.

              OK, in this case my tendency is GTX 2xxx. But which one exactly can you suggest? How big should be memory on graphic interface?

               

              > The Revolution is more expensive than the DeLuxe V2 or WS Pro. When on a budget, what is the value added?

              I chosen Revolution because WS Pro was not/is not listed on the home page of ASUS, and I thought ASUS will not continue with this product (http://www.asus.de/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=179). If that is not the case, I prefer also WS Pro.

               

              > Zalman would not be my first choice for CPU cooler.

              Is there any special reason for it? I prefered Zalman because, as I read tests, it is quite. How about with the loudness of Noctua NH-U12P or the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme?

               

              > Don't you want to edit? Get at least 3 additional large 7200 disks and don't use a raid1 on them.

              Sure :-). I listed you only the OS hard disks. My storage configuration is as follow:

              - 2 x 150 GB SATA II, 10000 hard disk for OS (RAID 1).

              - 1 x 500 GB SATA II 7200 hard disk for pagesys file, temps, cache, etc. How about with Adobe CS4 cache files? Is it ok to store them on this HD? Can I separate the Adobe cache files from the project data files?

              - 1 x  2 TB SATA II 7200 harddisk for Adobe CS4 data storage.

              I think Western Digital is not a bad choice, isn't it?

               

              > You may not need DDR3-1600 memory unless you want to over clock beyond 3.6 GHz.

              I am not sure at this moment, perhapt I need over clocking.

               

              > Is 650 W enough for your configuration...

              I think at this moment yes, perhaps I should investigate for 750 W or 850 W. I'll use also DVB-T interface on this PC.

               

              What about with my PC case choice? Is it ok? Or you prefer other one?

              How about with Xeon and i7-860 processors? You listed the disadvantages of i7-860 CPU in your article (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/433549). As I understood correctly, you prefer i7-9xx CPUs in the PC, don't you?

               

              Unfortunatelly, the hardware components are much more expensive in Germany (about 30% more) as in the USA. Because of that I must build a middle-performance PC. Do you know any inexpensive hardware supplier/reseller in any country of European Union?

               

              Best Regards

              Musti

              • 4. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                Harm Millaard Level 7

                I'll reply later tonight, Have to go to a dinner right now.

                • 5. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                  Jim_Simon Level 9
                  my tendency is GTX 2xxx. But which one exactly can you suggest?

                   

                  The cheapest.  The GPU will make little difference with editing.

                   

                  I chosen Revolution

                   

                  The P6T SE is a very usable board, and much cheaper.  If you don't need the features it lacks, consider it.

                   

                  perhaps I should investigate for 750 W or 850 W. I'll use also DVB-T interface on this PC.

                   

                  As a point of interest, I've no issues with an Enermax 600W PS with a config similar to your suggested purchase.

                   

                  - 2 x 150 GB SATA II, 10000 hard disk for OS (RAID 1).

                  - 1 x 500 GB SATA II 7200 hard disk for pagesys file, temps, cache, etc. How about with Adobe CS4 cache files? Is it ok to store them on this HD? Can I separate the Adobe cache files from the project data files?

                  - 1 x  2 TB SATA II 7200 harddisk for Adobe CS4 data storage.

                   

                  My own preference here would be to RAID the 500GB Project drive.  I had one fail on me recently, and thought I'd lost a whole lot of material.  Fortunately, it was only the drive's controller that was having intermittent problems, and I was successful at eventually pulling off all the data.  Point is, rebuilding an OS and reinstalling programs may be less devastating than losing everything on your Project drive.

                   

                  And yes, Scratch files are fine on the Project drive.

                  • 6. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                    Harm Millaard Level 7
                    But which one exactly can you suggest? How big should be memory on graphic interface?

                     

                    All cards with at least 512 MB are good. If you lean towards nVidia I would look at the GTX 260 or 275. Anything above that is a waste of money for the performance gain you get.

                     

                    Is there any special reason for it? I prefered Zalman because, as I read tests, it is quite. How about with the loudness of Noctua NH-U12P or the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme?

                     

                    My reasoning is that I want a CPU cooler to COOL and the consistent two top performers are the Noctua and Thermalright. Zalman often comes out of a lot of tests as a mediocre performer. I don't look at the noise of the fans, but I think that the differences are pretty small. The Noctua has the advantage of push-pull setup.

                     

                    Your case is OK, but that is mostly a very personal choice. I like Lian Li very much, but that is not in the budget category.

                     

                    In Germany www.alternate.de may be a good place to start for competitive pricing. In the Netherlands I use the Pricewatch on http://tweakers.net to find the best prices. Google and you will find similar sites in Germany.

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                    • 7. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                      Musti_HW Level 1

                      Hello Harm,

                       

                      thank you again.

                      The information and tips are very helpful for me.

                      If I have any question later, I think, I can contact you in forum.

                       

                      Best Regards and Greetings from Munich

                      Musti

                      • 8. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                        Musti_HW Level 1

                        Hi Jim,

                         

                        thank you for your suggestions.

                         

                        > The P6T SE is a very usable board, and much cheaper.

                        There is no SAS ports ans SL or CrossFireX support on P6T SE. I'd like investigate for 3-4 years, because of that I prefer a motherboard with more features. I will buy P6T6 WS Professional.

                         

                        > I've no issues with an Enermax 600W PS with a config similar to your suggested purchase.

                        Yes, you're right. I think it is enough for me a PSU with 650 W.

                         

                        > My own preference here would be to RAID the 500GB Project drive.

                        Backup is a very important issue. At this moment, I have only an archive hard disk for old project data. I must have a better backup concept against data lost. If I realize it, I prefer RAID 1 for project drive.

                         

                        > And yes, Scratch files are fine on the Project drive.

                        You mean, I should not save Scratch files on other drive than project files?

                         

                        Best Regards

                        Musti

                        • 9. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                          Musti_HW Level 1

                          Hi Hamm,

                           

                          I have now my component choices for my self-build computer.

                          Please give your last suggestions for them. I need your help in video interface choice.

                           

                           

                          Here are my choices

                          --------------------------------------------------

                          Case: Cooler Master CM 690 Pure


                          Power Supply: Corsair HX 750W ATX 2.3 (CMPSU-750HX)


                          Motherboard: ASUS P6T WS Professional


                          Processor: Intel Core i7-920


                          Processor Cooling Fan: Noctua NH-U12P SE1366


                          Memory: OCZ Platinum Low-Voltage DIMM Kit 12GB PC3-12800U CL7-7-7-24 (DDR3-1600) (OCZ3P1600LV12GS)


                          Graphic/Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 275 AMP! Edition, 896MB GDDR3 (ZT-275E3KB-FCP) OR Sapphire Toxic Radeon HD 4890 GameStar Edition, 1024MB GDDR5, full retail (11150-07-50R)


                          Hard Disk: for OS: 1 x Western Digital VelociRaptor 150GB, SATA II, for pagefilesys/temps/etc: 1 x Western Digital Caviar Black 1000GB, SATA II (WD1001FALS), for Adobe project data: 2 x Western Digital Caviar Black 2000GB, SATA II (WD2001FASS) (as SATA RAID 1)


                          Blue-ray Driver: LiteOn DH-4B1S, SATA, black, retail (10C)


                          Operating System: Windows 7, Ultimate Edition, 64 bit

                           

                          --------------------------------------------------

                           

                           

                          Best Regards

                          Musti

                          • 10. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                            Harm Millaard Level 7

                            Looks good!

                             

                            With regards to the video card, both are great choices. I think your choice can easily be based on availablility, price and personal preference. Whichever you choose, you can't go wrong.

                             

                            Pagefile and temps I would put in the first WD Caviar Black disk, not on your C drive.

                             

                            Do you need the extras in Win7 Ultimate or would Pro suffice?

                            • 11. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                              Musti_HW Level 1

                              Hi Harm,

                               

                              > Pagefile and temps I would put in the first WD Caviar Black disk, not on your C drive.

                              Sure. I will configure for each hard disk only one partition as follow:

                              Partition C: for OS > Western Digital VelociRaptor, 150 GB

                              Partition D: for pagefilesys/temps/etc > Western Digital Caviar Black 1000GB

                              Partition E: for Adobe project data >  2 x Western Digital Caviar Black 2000GB (RAID 1)

                               

                              > Do you need the extras in Win7 Ultimate or would Pro suffice?

                              The main reason is the multiple language support.

                               

                              Best Regards

                              Musti

                              • 12. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                Harm Millaard Level 7

                                Musti,

                                 

                                Vielleicht ist diese Stelle interessant: http://www.preisvergleich.de/category/index/id/1746/name/Komponenten

                                 

                                28-08-2009 21-47-48.jpg

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                                • 13. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                  INTYME1985

                                  "There is no use for two video cards. I would opt for an ATI HD 4xxx or nVidia GTX 2xx card and forget about a Quadro."

                                   

                                  Pardon my interruption....  Can I run 3 monitors with one card?

                                   

                                  Thanks for all the great advice too!

                                   

                                  JM

                                  • 14. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                    Jim_Simon Level 9

                                    The only card I know of with three monitor capabilities was the Matrox Parahelia, which I don't believe is still available.  (But even if it were, it's such old technology I'd skip it anyway.)

                                    • 16. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                      INTYME1985 Level 1

                                      right on, thanks...  I came surfing this forum to research my next computer purchase..   3 monitors is the objective..

                                      • 17. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                        Jim_Simon Level 9

                                        You can always use 2 cards.

                                        • 18. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                          Paul R Stark Level 1

                                          Dear Mr. Millard,

                                           

                                           

                                          I have seen your comments in various forums, including your comments on the VideoGuys DIY7 build. I would be very much appreciative if you could offer your analysis and recommendations on the following configuration I intend to build, my first, based upon the DIY7 build.

                                           

                                           

                                          MoBo - Asus P6T Deluxe V2

                                           

                                           

                                          CPU - Intel Core i7 920 (Are there different ones? Is there a particular one I must get?)

                                           

                                           

                                          Memory - Corsair XMS3 12GB PC12800 DDR3 - 6x2048MB (I anticipate you will recommend DDR3-10600-1333)

                                           

                                           

                                          Hard Drives:

                                          Boot Drive - Western Digital WD3200AAJS 320GB SATA2 7200rpm 8MB

                                          Video Storage - Western Digital WD3200AAJS 320GB SATA2 7200rpm 8MB

                                          (I don't know how many and I don't know which ones. I also don't know about the necessity of a RAID 0).

                                           

                                           

                                          Case - Cooler Master Centurion 534

                                           

                                           

                                           

                                           

                                          Power - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W

                                           

                                           

                                          DVD+/-RW - Need a recommendation. I do not anticipate any Blu-Ray needs for my work.

                                           

                                           

                                          GPU - NVIDIA FX 1800 by PNY. This is an expensive card. I anticipate you will direct me to the ATI HD48xx or nVidia GTX2xx. However, I will be using Premiere Pro, After Effects, SoundBooth, and Encore, one or more dynamically linked at various times.

                                           

                                           

                                          Cooling - I am quite ignorant here. I hope the Power Supply will be adequate for the case, but I suspect there is a cooling device I should also get for the CPU that perhaps does not come with the CPU. I anticipate you will recommend the Noctua NH-U12P or the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme. However, I do not expect to overclock, unless you recommend it.

                                           

                                           

                                          Monitor - Not sure how critical this is, but I would like to spend no more than $150.

                                           

                                           

                                          OS - Windows 7 64-bit, but not sure which one. Ultimate?

                                           

                                           

                                          Note: I own the CS4 Master Collection. I am brand new to video editing and PC building, but have good aptitude for both. We are producing a multi-DVD curriculum and it has to be good. We will also be publishing videos on the web and intend to do many more productions in the future. Steep learning curve for me, but the benefit for those we are trying to help should be quite significant (we're a non-profit).

                                           

                                           

                                          I am extremely grateful to you and others who offer so much valuable info on this site to those of us who are in desperate need of it.

                                           

                                           

                                          Paul

                                          • 19. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                            Bill Gehrke Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                            Paul R Stark wrote:

                                             


                                             

                                             

                                            CPU - Intel Core i7 920 (Are there different ones? Is there a particular one I must get?)

                                             

                                             


                                            Here is a good price on the Intel i7 920

                                            • 20. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                              John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                              That is a good price IF you are near a Microcenter store for the "in store pickup only" feature

                                              • 21. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                Paul R Stark Level 1

                                                Good catch. I hadn't noticed that. What's the next best option you are aware of?

                                                 

                                                Thx.

                                                • 22. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                  Musti_HW Level 1

                                                  Hi Bill,

                                                   

                                                  unfortunately, Micro Center does not ship to Germany. Does anybody know any shop in the USA with good prices which will ship to other countries?

                                                   

                                                  Best Regards

                                                  Cicek

                                                  • 23. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                    Jim_Simon Level 9

                                                    Video Storage - Western Digital WD3200AAJS 320GB SATA2 7200rpm 8MB

                                                     

                                                    That's awfully small for a Media drive.  I'd double that at least, maybe even quadruple it. (In capacity, not number of drives).

                                                     

                                                    Regarding the number of drives, add at least a third good size drive for Projects/Scratch.

                                                     

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    DVD+/-RW - Need a recommendation.

                                                     

                                                    I currently use the Optiarc 7200S with Falcon Pro media, and I routinely produce DVDs with fewer errors than many Hollywood disks I own.  Not a one in 400+ has ever come back or generated a client complaint.  The current model number is now the 7240S.

                                                     

                                                    I anticipate you will direct me to the ATI HD48xx. However, I will be using Premiere Pro, After Effects, SoundBooth, and Encore, one or more dynamically linked at various times.

                                                     

                                                    Save your money and stick with that anticipated recommendation.  Running multiple apps won't stress the card, it'll stress the memory, for which you have a very good 12GB.

                                                    • 24. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                      Harm Millaard Level 7

                                                      I would look not only at lager disks in capacity, but also with 32 MB cache, not with only 8 MB.

                                                      • 25. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                        Paul R Stark Level 1

                                                        Thank you Jim and Harm.

                                                         

                                                        Will this card be adequate and compatible with my planned configuration?

                                                        MSI ATI Radeon HD4850 OC 1GB DDR3 2DVI PCI-Express Video Card

                                                        • 26. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                          Jim_Simon Level 9

                                                          It'll be more than sufficient.

                                                          • 27. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                            Paul R Stark Level 1

                                                            Thank you, Jim.

                                                             

                                                            To start off with, how about the following hard drive setup:

                                                             

                                                            OS - Western Digital WD5001AALS 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB Intellipower Hard Drive

                                                             

                                                            Media - Seagate ST3750528AS 750GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB Hard Drive

                                                             

                                                            Projects/Scratch - Seagate ST3750528AS 750GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB Hard Drive

                                                             

                                                            This is based primarily on current pricing vs. capacity considerations (can't find a 32mb OS drive under 500gb).

                                                            • 28. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                              Jim_Simon Level 9

                                                              (can't find a 32mb OS drive under 500gb).

                                                               

                                                              I personally wouldn't worry too much about that for the System drive.  500 GB is a lot of wasted space, as this drive should ideally be used only for the OS and Programs.  I currently use a 75 GB drive and have room left over.  If there's one chepaer and smaller, go with it.

                                                               

                                                              You should be fine with the Seagates.  They're very fast drives.  Harm's not a big fan, preferring WDs.  My experience has led me to the opposite view.  I'd never buy another WD again, but have had no issues with my Seagate 7200.11 drive.  Your 7200.12 drives are even better.

                                                              • 29. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                                Paul R Stark Level 1

                                                                Okay, then I'll be happy to go with a very small OS drive, even if it's only an 8mb cache, and save lots of $.

                                                                 

                                                                Thx.

                                                                • 30. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                                  Harm Millaard Level 7
                                                                  Harm's not a big fan,

                                                                   

                                                                  which is not surprising with failure rates for 7200.11 models over 70%, I think.

                                                                   

                                                                  It appears the 7200.12 have finally improved in terms of reliability.

                                                                   

                                                                  For a boot disk I prefer a Velociraptor, but that does not fit the 'low-budget' question. Given the price difference between the 320GB/8MB WD and the Seagate 7200.12 500GB/32MB of € 3 for a single disk it is IMO a simple choice. You have the advantage of a very low fill rate and maximum speeds.

                                                                  • 31. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                                    Paul R Stark Level 1

                                                                    Here is what I hope is my final configuration for my first editing workstation. I would greatly appreciate any and all comments as to whether all parts are compatible so that the assembled workstation will be properly operational and reliable for some time.

                                                                     

                                                                    Motherboard
                                                                    Asus P6TSE LGA1366/ Intel X58/ DDR3/ CrossFireX/ A&GbE/ ATX
                                                                    $215.00
                                                                    ProcessorIntel Core i7 2.66GHz (which one?)
                                                                    $290.00
                                                                    RAMOCZ Platinum 12GB DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) $230.00
                                                                    Boot Drive
                                                                    Western Digital WD5001AALS 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB Intellipower Hard Drive
                                                                    $60.00
                                                                    Projects/Scratch
                                                                    Seagate ST3750528AS 750GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB Hard Drive
                                                                    $70.00
                                                                    Media
                                                                    Seagate ST3750528AS 750GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB Hard Drive
                                                                    $70.00
                                                                    Case
                                                                    Cooler Master Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP No PS ATX Mid Tower Case (Black)
                                                                    $48.00
                                                                    Power SupplyCORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W$110.00
                                                                    DVD+/-RWSony Optiarc AD-7240S-0B 24X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW SATA Drive$28.00
                                                                    Graphics Card
                                                                    MSI ATI Radeon HD4850 OC 1GB DDR3 2DVI PCI-Express Video Card
                                                                    $116.00
                                                                    Processor Cooling FanNot sure I need this since don't intend to overclock
                                                                    OSWindows 7 Pro$30.00
                                                                    $1,267.00

                                                                     

                                                                    Thanks everyone.

                                                                     

                                                                    By the way, I welcome any picky recommendations on parts and pricing.

                                                                    • 32. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                                      Jim_Simon Level 9

                                                                      which is not surprising with failure rates for 7200.11 models over 70%, I think.

                                                                       

                                                                      Now, now.  The problems with the .11 series can't really be called 'failures' as no data was actually lost from the firmware error.  And the new firmware did resolve the issue.  (And personally, I'm skeptical of that 70% figure.)

                                                                      • 33. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                                        Jim_Simon Level 9

                                                                        Overall I expect your system will perform very nicely, Paul.

                                                                        • 34. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                                          Harm Millaard Level 7
                                                                          (And personally, I'm skeptical of that 70% figure.)

                                                                           

                                                                          You should try it in a 7 disk iSCSI NAS array, that is in a perpetual state of rebuilding, where 5 disks needed to be replaced. That is over 71%.

                                                                          • 35. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                                            Bill Gehrke Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                                            I did have one 7200.11 out of my nine 7200.11 drives go bad.  But I just went out and bought three new  7200.12 drives that are working great.

                                                                            • 36. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                                              Jim_Simon Level 9

                                                                              That is over 71%.

                                                                               

                                                                              For you, not the world.  In Bill's case it was only 11%.  In my case it was 0%.

                                                                               

                                                                              Using just us three, that's a 27% average.  I suspect that number would drop further if we counted all .11 drives in use.

                                                                              • 37. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                                                John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                                                Several (3-4) years ago I bought two WD 250Gig drives... both failed within 90 days

                                                                                 

                                                                                While MY experience with that size drive was 100% failure (I don't remember the model #'s) I have not had early WD failures before or since

                                                                                 

                                                                                I have had other drives fail... but only after 5-6-7 years of constant service, which I do not find unusual (and is the reason I make full backup several times a year, with file backups as needed for important files)

                                                                                • 38. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                                                  Paul R Stark Level 1

                                                                                  Need a substitute case suggestion for Cooler Master Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP No PS ATX Mid Tower Case (Black).

                                                                                   

                                                                                  How about this one:

                                                                                   

                                                                                  COOLER MASTER RC-330-KKN1-GP Elite 330 Mid Tower Case (Black) Retail
                                                                                  (RoHS Certified) w/o Power Supply

                                                                                   

                                                                                  Is it comparable? Is there a better suggestion in the same price range?

                                                                                  • 39. Re: Low-budget Performance PC for Adobe CS4
                                                                                    Joker B

                                                                                    Thx fr the tip! I just built a new system & saved about $100 below my eggspected online price

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