8 Replies Latest reply on Oct 24, 2009 6:20 PM by Jim_Simon

    Please define OS, Project, & Media Drives

    Paul R Stark Level 1

      I would like to know more about exactly what kind of files go on each of these 3 drives.

       

      OS & progams - Does this include all programs, including all the Adobe CS4 Master Collection apps, MS Office, etc?

       

      Project/Scratch - Are these the files being worked on prior to encoding to DVD, Flash or whatever?

       

      Media - Are these the encoded files, the ones that have been finished and are output to final form? Is this drive internal or are we talking about a portable drive media drive that can be used with OnLocation CS4?

       

      Backup - What should be backed up and where should it be backed up? Once a project is encoded/finished, will simply storing in on the Project drive impede performance as long as the drive is not too full? If so, this would allow the E drive to be used as a backup drive (a budget motivated measure).

       

      Thx.

        • 1. Re: Please define OS, Project, & Media Drives
          Harm Millaard Level 7
          OS & progams - Does this include all programs, including all the Adobe CS4 Master Collection apps, MS Office, etc?


          Yes

           

          Project/Scratch - Are these the files being worked on prior to encoding to DVD, Flash or whatever?


          Yes

           

          Media - Are these the encoded files, the ones that have been finished and are output to final form? Is this drive internal or are we talking about a portable drive media drive that can be used with OnLocation CS4?


          No, these are the source files. Exported files should best be located on a separate disk. If you use OnLocation, you have to copy these to an internal disk or use a portable 7200 eSATA external disk for OL.

           

          Backup - What should be backed up and where should it be backed up? Once a project is encoded/finished, will simply storing in on the Project drive impede performance as long as the drive is not too full? If so, this would allow the E drive to be used as a backup drive (a budget motivated measure).

           

          With 1 TB sizes at less than $ 100, this is a poor excuse. Backup project files. Media can be recaptured, unless you only have OL as a source.

          • 2. Re: Please define OS, Project, & Media Drives
            Jim_Simon Level 8

            OS & progams - Does this include all programs, including all the Adobe CS4 Master Collection apps, MS Office, etc?

             

            Yes, but leave out Office.  Only install what you need to edit.  Use another computer for other tasks, including email and Internet browsing.

             

            Project/Scratch - Are these the files being worked on prior to encoding to DVD, Flash or whatever?

             

            No.  This is where the project files are stored.  Like Word creates .doc files, Premiere creates its own files.

             

            Media - Are these the encoded files, the ones that have been finished and are output to final form?

             

            No, this is where you store the original media files being worked on.  Large, internal drives are best.  You can also export your finished files to this drive, but performance will be improved if you add a fourth Export drive.

             

            Backup - What should be backed up and where should it be backed up?

             

            Project files should be backed up.  Scratch files need not be.  Put this on a physically different hard drive.  (I use my C: drive.  Online backups or external drives are also useful for this purpose.)

            • 3. Re: Please define OS, Project, & Media Drives
              Harm Millaard Level 7
              No.  This is where the project files are stored.  Like Word creates .doc files, Premiere creates its own files.

               

              Incorrect. Scratch files were conveniently left out of your answer. Of course project files are on the project disk, duhh.

               

              The OP asked

               

              Project/Scratch - Are these the files being worked on prior to encoding to DVD, Flash or whatever?

               

              and the only correct answer is yes.

               

              Oh, when are you finally going to run the PPBM test or are you ashamed of the results?

               

              When you always give hardware advise, it seems no more than reasonable to be able to see the validity of your advise in benchmark numbers.

              • 4. Re: Please define OS, Project, & Media Drives
                Jim_Simon Level 8
                Scratch files were conveniently left out of your answer.

                 

                They are included in the "files Premiere creates".

                 

                The OP asked

                 

                Project/Scratch - Are these the files being worked on prior to encoding to DVD, Flash or whatever?

                 

                I read that to mean "captured media", in which case the answer would be no.  Perhaps we should get a clarification.

                • 5. Re: Please define OS, Project, & Media Drives
                  Paul R Stark Level 1
                  OS & progams - Does this include all programs, including all the Adobe CS4 Master Collection apps, MS Office, etc?

                  Since you did not exclude them, Mr. Millaard, I presume you do not object to having MS Office & other non-Adobe apps on the C drive.

                   

                  Project/Scratch - Are these the files being worked on prior to encoding to DVD, Flash or whatever?

                  What I meant was what I think is meant by "captured media", the footage videotaped to an external drive using OnLocation.

                   

                  If I understand correctly, this is the progression my projects should take:

                   

                  1. Videotape to an External Drive using OnLocation
                  2. Copy OnLocation files (aka Source files or Captured Media) to the Media Drive
                  3. Edit the OnLocation files on the Media Drive using Premiere Pro, Soundbooth, AfterEffects, Photoshop, etc. The files are saved here and remain here until they are ready for export.
                  4. Export (encode to Flash, DVD, etc.) the finished Premiere Pro file to the Projects Drive (in the absence of a 4th drive)
                  5. Backup the Premiere Pro projects file to the C Drive, an External Backup Drive, or a 4th Drive.
                  6. Where do we save and backup the Captured Media/Source Files?

                   

                  I still do not understand what Premiere Scrach files are. Are these the temporary files created by Premiere when in a new project is created? Do they have to be deleted from the Media Drive after the project is exported?

                  • 6. Re: Please define OS, Project, & Media Drives
                    Jim_Simon Level 8

                    Yes to points 1 thru 5.

                     

                    6.  Where do we save and backup the Captured Media/Source Files?

                       

                      If you're not shooting on tape, use a hard drive you can put on a shelf.  Or if there's not much footage, a data disk - DVD or Blu-ray.

                       

                      Are [scratch files] the temporary files created by Premiere when in a new project is created? Do they have to be deleted from the Media Drive after the project is exported?

                       

                      These are things like conformed audio, peak and indexing files.  Premiere creates them automatically for it's own internal use.  If they ever get deleted, Premiere will simply recreate them when needed.  They do not need to be archived.

                      • 7. Re: Please define OS, Project, & Media Drives
                        Paul R Stark Level 1

                        Thanks, Jim. You've been very gracious and helpful.