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1. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
Gustavo Del Vechio Oct 22, 2009 10:44 AM (in response to nados)Yes, for sure....There are 3 ways to do it on Illustrator...
A combination of mesh and envelope is very good.
A combination of symbol and mapping 3D surfaces achieve too
A way you are trying, configurating lights could reach too.
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Tell me if you know how to use mesh, envelope I explain you the first technique
Tell me if you know how to use symbols I tell you te second
Waiting
Gustavo
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2. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
nados Oct 22, 2009 10:59 AM (in response to Gustavo Del Vechio)I started playing around with symbols but could not get it applied to the correct surface. It keeped appling the symbol to fill which is off. Maybe i created the band incorrectly possibly messing me up when trying to apply effects.
I have not played around with mesh and envelope yet.
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3. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
PrepressPro1 Oct 22, 2009 11:11 AM (in response to nados)Here is a simple chrome tutorial.
http://www.creativemom.net/2009/01/30/how-to-create-chrome-letters-in-adobe-illustrator/
Illustrator has a lot of chrome and metal grads to use. Perhaps make a swash with a chrome grad create a symbol and map to your 3D object. Then add additional highlights with mesh.
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4. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
nados Oct 22, 2009 11:22 AM (in response to PrepressPro1)ok,
i'll try it asap and post the results.
thanks.
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5. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
Skullmaker Oct 22, 2009 12:06 PM (in response to nados)Hello Nados,
Please go here to post #13 and post #21
http://forums.adobe.com/message/2030214#2030214
I hope this helps!
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6. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
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7. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
Jacob Bugge Oct 23, 2009 5:17 AM (in response to nados)Nados,
But i can't seem to get rid of the seam line ...
You might consider forging the band instead of welding rolled parts.
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8. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
nados Oct 23, 2009 6:14 AM (in response to Jacob Bugge)I'm not familar with the terminology: Forge/Weld but i'll figure it out. However, i would be simpler if i could just slide the map along the surface to hide the seam.
thanks
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9. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
PrepressPro1 Oct 23, 2009 7:17 AM (in response to nados)Not sure but I think Jacob was kidding. Making metallurgy references to a 3D computer modeling project.
How did you get rid of the seams? Did you do the current metal look with the lighting in the 3D effect or did you map a grad symbol? Inquiring minds want to know.
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10. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
Jacob Bugge Oct 23, 2009 7:30 AM (in response to nados)nados,
I am still with 10, but it looks like something that could be done with normal gradients on the different surfaces, possibly after Object>Expand Appearance.
And what PrepressPro said.
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11. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
nados Oct 23, 2009 8:02 AM (in response to Jacob Bugge)Making metallurgy references to a 3D computer modeling project.
I could do it in Lightwave 3D but i wanted the band to stay a vector image.
Did you do the current metal look with the lighting in the 3D effect or did you map a grad symbol?
Map a grad symbol.
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12. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
Wade_Zimmerman Oct 23, 2009 8:20 AM (in response to nados)It would be good if you marked this answered, even though you really answered this yourself, since it comes up often and it would really be excellent if you had more screen shots.
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13. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
nados Oct 23, 2009 8:38 AM (in response to Wade_Zimmerman)Screen shots of what?
Yes, the original question about how to create a chrome effect on the object as answered - by Gustavo Del Vechio:
A combination of symbol and mapping 3D surfaces achieve too
with confirmation by PrePressPro1:
Perhaps make a swash with a chrome grad create a symbol and map to your 3D object.
The links provided did not give me what i needed but i was able to find a tutorial on a site that did based on what Gustavo Del Vechio and PrepressPro1 suggested about maps and symboles.
However, the problem with the seam still remains.
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14. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
Michael Riordan Oct 23, 2009 8:38 AM (in response to nados)Another way of getting the metallic look you are after is to play with the lighting controls in the 3D window. I found that by adding lots of lights, at low intensity and bringing the ambient light down to under 10, I could get lots of light/dark/light combinations which are after all what makes metal shiny. I've also found it is sometimes useful to invert my normal way of thinking and create a black object and shade it with white. Here's a screen capture that shows a vector 3d object with no mapping, lots of lights, white shading. be sure to bring down the highlight size in addition to bringing down the ambient light.
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15. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
PrepressPro1 Oct 23, 2009 8:40 AM (in response to Michael Riordan)Awesome screen shot and suggestion. Thanks for posting!
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16. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
nados Oct 23, 2009 8:43 AM (in response to Michael Riordan)I did play with a few lights after creating the band with the revolve and extrude tools but didn't get too far and i didn't think of placing a lot of lights on it.
I'll try it.
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17. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
Wade_Zimmerman Oct 23, 2009 8:44 AM (in response to Michael Riordan)Well michael really nailed it well.
Terrific.
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18. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
nados Oct 23, 2009 10:13 AM (in response to Wade_Zimmerman)Ok....
Using Michael Riordan's idea, this is the best i could come up with in a hour of playing around. It looks nearly as good as the one in my earlier post except that i couldn't sharp white highlights as i did with the black highlights. I also discovered that i could delete some of the lights (and maybe even a few more) without altering the the overall look of the highlights. But still, not bad!
However, I just couldn't get any light on the front face of the band with the objects orientation. So... I used a mapped steel gradient symbol on the front face.
Thanks for the idea Michael.
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19. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
JETalmage Oct 24, 2009 10:08 AM (in response to nados) -
20. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
Wade_Zimmerman Oct 24, 2009 10:40 AM (in response to JETalmage)Actually compared to what you would get with Illustrator that looks
really dinky.
That really has a very fake look to it I don't like the amateur
quality about it t all.
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21. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
JETalmage Oct 24, 2009 12:10 PM (in response to Wade_Zimmerman)Can you not read?
It wasn't offered as comparison to anything and everything that can be done in Illustrator.
It wasn't even offered as comparison to anything and everything that can be done in Xtreme (which is just as considerable).
It was expressly offered as comparison to the result of an hour spent dinking around with Illustrator's 3D Effect by nados in an attempt to get something that is now quick & commonplace in other programs out of Illustrator's 3D Effect rendering capabilities.
JET
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22. Re: creating a chrome effect on metal band.
Wade_Zimmerman Oct 24, 2009 4:06 PM (in response to JETalmage)It was expressly offered as comparison to the result of an hour spent dinking around with Illustrator's 3D Effect by nados in an attempt to get something that is now quick & commonplace in other programs out of Illustrator's 3D Effect rendering capabilities.
JET
I think you make the point quite clearly here it is not about what is quick and common lace that counts but the quality of what can be achieved.
Yes you might be able to do it quick in a program that has a commonplace feature to do it with but if the result is lacking because this easy and common place feature is implemented in such a way that the final result is lacking in quality then it is less than nothing.
The very same criticism which can apply to Illustrator sometimes, applies to these other programs.
The question then is sure you can do it, but would you want to?
From the result you showed and from what I see from what I can do in Illustrator I would say I would rather do without that commonplace feature if that is what the result would be.
Would you not agree?












