Very cool Jim - thanks.
give me the details (via private message if you wish) and I can try to replicate for a Mac.
I'll give it a try.
I posted a link to this thread in PrE, just in case. I'll also play with these, to see if with maybe a file extension change, they can work there too.
PS - sometime back, a user on the Muvipix forum was working with Kramer's Fades, but was having some issues. I do not recall what those were, but it seems that in their case, the source footage's Contrast made a big difference. If I can find that discussion, I'll run it past you, in case you can benefit from that.
There is definitely a visible difference between key frame interpolations. Trouble is, no settings I try in Premiere will exactly duplicate the results of Andrew's AE preset. This could be some program weirdness, or simply my own ignorance. (I reeeeally don't understand the whole Keyframe Velocity thing.)
I'll keep playing.
As a starting point, maybe look at Continuous Bezier.
Just a thought,
PS - again, thanks!
After some more playing, I was unable to exactly reproduce Andrew's effect. It's close, but not exact.
However, I've decided I actually prefer the look of the Linear keyframed effect, so I've stopped playing.
I checked in AE, Andrew Kramer used BEZIER keyframe interpolation for all keyframes.Maybe not perfect but I am really happy now with this preset.Much better than simply "Dissolve in" or going to AE just to fade in one clip.
Once again, thanx Jim, good idea.
First: Thanks to Jim for bringing film fade into Premiere.
Second: For those who don't have After Effects or Premiere CS4 (or only have PPro CS4 for MAC), here's a starting point, the *direct* translation (AE to PPro) on what Andrew Cramer did in AE:
1. Apply the effects Levels and Tint to the clip you want to fade in.
2. Figure out how long time you want the fade to be.
3. At the time you want the fade to end, set keyframes, without changing any settings, for the following: Opacity (an effect that's always there), under Levels: "(RGB) Black Input Level" and "(RGB) White Input Level", and finally, under Tint: the "Amount to Tint".
4. Go to the start of the clip and set the following values:
For Opacity: 0%
For "(RGB) Black Input Level": 186
For "(RGB) White Input Level": 54
For "Amount to Tint": 35
5. Select all keyframes (at least start and end for each effect), right click on the last one and select Continuous Beziere.
For Fade Out, just set keyframes (unchanged values) for where you want the fade to start, and then put in the above values for where you want it to end (reverse procedure you may call it).
Now, I tested this in PPro 1.5, and one thing I noticed was that Tint doesn't have the same impact in PPro as in AE. Maybe I should try the same thing in PPro CS3, but not right now.
I wonder if maybe Dennis could do a test or two to see if the Tint effect works the same way in AE and PPro.
Anyway, as stated, the procedure above is a starting point.
PS! One could always play with the keyframe handles in order to make the speed-curves as one wants.
For CS4 on W7 the tint is the same in Pro as in AE. The impact depends on the image.
A few year ago Aharon Rabinowitz did an AE turorial for the Cow on a film flash transition which is very easy to customize for Pro.
For CS4 on W7 the tint is the same in Pro as in AE.
You mean the settings, or the appearance? I could not match the settings for Tint and Opacity between the programs. (Failing those, I never tried for Levels.)
For example, the Opacity at frame 2 of the fade in would be 1% on AE and something else in Premiere. Frame 3 would be 4% in AE and again different in Premiere. Nothing I did with keyframes in Premiere would exactly match the AE settings.
I meant appearance.
In the past I tried several 'effects' for AE in Pro and never got the settings the same. But then again Pro is no AE, but with some tweeking you can get very close.
Of course I tried with exactly the same footage in AE and PPro, It could be that AE and PPro have two different ways to mix effects though, and it could be that CS4 "all of a sudden" has gotten it all right now. I don't know...
Have you tried it Ann? A to B...
EDIT: Meaning the Tint effect of course (and also in mix with other effects).
Something funny is in play here, and I did some more testing this morning.
As you said, Tint is (or at least seems to be) the same in PPro and AE. But, applying Cramer's preset in AE and then switching Tint off and on gives a pretty big difference, much more than in PPro after building the fade there.
A strange thing (and what made me believe in differences between AE and PPro ) is that if I changed the order of the Level and Tint effects in AE (using Cramer's preset), and then back to the original order (Level first), then switching the Tint effect off and on gave the same results as in PPro (much less difference between Tint on and off).
Does it work in CS5?
Where do I put the file?
It does. Unzip, and double-click the .PRFPSET file; it will be added to Premiere in a "Fades" folder.
I double-click the .prfpset file, and
Premiere starts up.
However, I don't see a "Fades" folder anywhere.
Where would I find this "Fades" folder?
Well, since they're presets, they're in the presets folder. You could also search for "fade."
Rightclick on the word Presets in the Effects window.
Thank you. Double-clicking the file didn't do the trick.
Importing it did.
Jim! You just saved my bacon! I started researching how to do this myself, and low and behold, you already did it! Saving me a gajillion hours and headache going back and forth into AE for this.
I made this 6 presets fade in and fade out from black or White with two filters Camera Blur and ProcAmp:
01. Black fade in
02. Black fade out
03. Black fade in and out
04. White fade in
05. White fade out
06. White fade in and out
I hope to join