18 Replies Latest reply on Jan 11, 2010 8:12 PM by jackscon joseph

    Failure on DVD Burn at 95%

    AYDY87

      A couple of months ago I switched my video editing from Pinnacle Studio 12 to Adobe Premiere Elements 8 (version 8.0 (M192 - 9/29/2009) because the Premiere Elements demo copy I downloaded appeared to work properly and be more robust than Pinnacle. Now that I have paid for the real product, I find that I am running into frustrations. First, I had to switch video cards (much thanks to "The Wine Snob" and Steve Grisetti for their part in helping me isolate and correct this issue).

       

      Now I find that more often than not, I cannot get a DVD to burn to completion. Recently, I have created a 80 minute "clip" that happens to be video only (no audio as it is a series of video camera captures of old 8mm movie film). When I select "Share" then Disc, set to DVD and accept all default settings and click "Burn", the program processes 95% of the way and then spits out a ruined disc containing no data. It then proceeds to count to 96% and hangs. According to the task manager it is still consuming about 50% of the CPU resource and about 1/2 GB of RAM, but is not responsive to any action other than termination through task manager.

       

      I have virtually dedicated this machine's entire functionality to this program:

      The machine in question is a Dell GX280 with

        4GB RAM

        Windows XP professional 2002 (SP3)

      The "My computer" General tab lists it as being a Pentium 4 3.00Ghz processor with 3GB of RAM (I'm led to understand that even though I physically have 4GB present, XP can only "see" 3GB of it.

      My video card is now and MSI R4350 ATI card with 512 MB of RAM.

      I have two disk drives in this machine. C: is where the program is installed. It's a 465GB drive with 147GB free. D: is a 372GB drive with 181GB free, I have done my best to make D: the "work drive". All "scratch Disks" under Edit,Preferences, Scratch Disks are set to D:\Video-work. I have defragmented these drives and I have tried to "clear the cache" by holding down the shift key while starting the program.

       

      I followed instructions I found in the forum to reduce additional background programs by going into Start, Run, msconfig, and turning off all Non-window services services except "Flexnet" and I have turned of virtually all listings in the startup window except two. One ties to my video card (CLIStart) and the other a Pinnacle utility (PCLECoInst) which I still use occasionally.

       

        I have made sure that all OS updates have been updated and installed and checked to make sure that I had any and all updates for Premiere.

       

      I have rebooted the machine and gone directly into Premeire Elements and tried to burn my disc through "share" and continue to get this freeze at 95%. It seems to me that I should have plenty of machine resource and that I've gotten all conflicting programming out of the way and yet I continue to struggle with this thing. I'm getting very frustrated with ruining numerous DVD's and taking all this time to do what seems like it should be a very basic function.

       

      I'd like to think that Adobe is able to put a product on the market that is not this fragile.

       

      Can ANYONE tell me what I'm doing wrong? I really need to be able to count on this program and after paying good money for it, I believe I'm entitled to have something that works.

       

      Sorry for the frustrated tone, but I'm really sick of fighting with this.

       

      Any and all help would be GREATLY appreciated.

       

      Thanks- Dan

        • 1. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
          the_wine_snob Level 9

          Dan,

           

          Thanks for the comprehensive post. You have already done many things, that I would normally recommend. Also, you furnished info on your I/O (HDD's), and that would have one place that I would have looked.Good post!

           

          Now, let's run a test. Instead of Burning to a Disc, choose Burn to Folder. I'd locate this on your D:\, as it has enough free space, and will keep the OS and programs running smoothly on C:\. What I am trying to determine here is whether it's something with the burner, the media, or with the Transcoding process, writing your Project to MPEG-2.

           

          If this test is successful, you'll have a VIDEO_TS folder with the necessary files inside. We'll then play this in a software player, just to check it. From that point, one could use the freeware burning app, ImgBurn to do the physical Burn. Now, this should not be necessary, but would give you a workaround, until the problem is solved.

           

          Depending on the results of the Burn to Folder test, we can look into various aspects of the program, the Project and possibly the system, though I doubt that the computer will be part of the issue.

           

          Good luck, and we'll be looking for the results of the test.

           

          Hunt

          • 2. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
            AYDY87 Level 1

            This sounds clear and reasonable. I won't be able to look at the issue until later this eve, but I will follow your instructions and let you know what happens.

             

            I can't tell you how much I appreciate your guidance.

            I'll keep you advised.

            Dan

            • 3. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
              AYDY87 Level 1

              OK... I have more info about this. The following is a chronology from the file burn session you suggested. Columns are as follows:

               

              Time - System clock

              Elapsed - Time elapsed from start of analysis

              % Comp - Percent complete as reported by Premiere Elements

              CPU Use - As reported by Windows task manager

              Mem Use - As reported by Windows task manager

              Program Phase - As reported by Premiere Elements

              Test directory - VIDEO_TS if it exists

              File TimeStamp - Time stamp on the files in VIDEO_TS

               

              Time     Elapsed     % Comp     CPU Use     Mem Use     Program Phase     Test directory     File TimeStamp
              8:42                                   
              8:46     0:04     4%     97%     468,872     Encoding Media     Empty     
              8:50     0:08     11%     94%     469,360     Encoding Media     Empty     
              8:55     0:13     21%     98%     470,684     Encoding Media     Empty     
              9:00     0:18     30%     98%     530,544     Encoding Media     Empty     
              9:05     0:23     35%     94%     534,768     Encoding Media     Empty     
              9:10     0:28     45%     98%     534,796     Encoding Media     Empty     
              9:15     0:33     54%     98%     534,812     Encoding Media     Empty     
              9:20     0:38     61%     97%     534,840     Encoding Media     Empty     
              9:25     0:43     67%     98%     537,552     Encoding Media     Empty     
              9:30     0:48     74%     95%     541,052     Encoding Media     Empty     
              9:35     0:53     82%     93%     541,524     Encoding Media     Empty     
              9:40     0:58     89%     95%     541,524     Encoding Media     Empty     
              9:45     1:03     95%     98%     541,524     Encoding Media     Empty     
              9:47     1:05     96%     80%     442,588     Encoding Media     Empty     
              9:48     1:06     95%     76%     451,216     Compiling Media     Empty     
              9:50     1:08     95%     80%     452,556     Compiling Media     Empty     
              9:55     1:13     95%     80%     466,032     Compiling Media     Empty

               

              At this point the following files were created in the VIDEO_TS folder - Originally their time stamp was 9:55. After 9 minutes it changed to 10:04.

               

              D:\Test\20091229_204250\VIDEO_TS>dir
              Volume in drive D is Work Volume
              Volume Serial Number is 5C00-99C3

              Directory of D:\Test\20091229_204250\VIDEO_TS

              12/29/2009  09:55 PM    <DIR>          .
              12/29/2009  09:55 PM    <DIR>          ..
              12/29/2009  10:04 PM             6,144 VIDEO_TS.BUP
              12/29/2009  10:04 PM             6,144 VIDEO_TS.IFO
              12/29/2009  10:04 PM            55,296 VTS_01_0.BUP
              12/29/2009  10:04 PM            55,296 VTS_01_0.IFO
              12/29/2009  10:04 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_01_1.VOB
              12/29/2009  10:04 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_01_2.VOB
              12/29/2009  10:04 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_01_3.VOB
              12/29/2009  10:04 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_01_4.VOB
              12/29/2009  10:04 PM       312,125,440 VTS_01_5.VOB
                             9 File(s)  4,607,084,544 bytes
                             2 Dir(s)  189,865,172,992 bytes free

               

              The chronology continues...

              9:56     1:14     95%     77%     501,780     Compiling Media     VIDEO_TS     9:55
              10:00     1:18     95%     78%     508,412     Compiling Media     VIDEO_TS     9:55
              10:05     1:23     95%     50%     455,756     Compiling Media     VIDEO_TS     10:04
              10:10     1:28     95%     48%     455,756     Compiling Media     VIDEO_TS     10:04
              10:15     1:33     96%     48%     455,756     Compiling Media     VIDEO_TS     10:04
              10:20     1:38     96%     48%     453,944     Compiling Media     VIDEO_TS     10:04
              10:25     1:43     96%     49%     453,944     Compiling Media     VIDEO_TS     10:04
              10:30     1:48     96%     49%     453,040     Compiling Media     VIDEO_TS     10:04
              10:35     1:53     96%     49%     452,132     Compiling Media     VIDEO_TS     10:04
              10:40     1:58     96%     49%     451,228     Compiling Media     VIDEO_TS     10:04
              10:54     2:12     56%     47%     446,692     Burning to Folder     VIDEO_TS     10:04
              11:06     2:24     58%     50%     442,168     Burning to Folder     VIDEO_TS     10:04
              11:09     2:27     100%     0%     467,156     Burn Complete     VIDEO_TS     10:04

               

               

              This is where it finally stopped. To my way of seeing it, the timing was odd. The files were created while the program said it was compiling media. At the point where it said it was burning to folder, nothing appeared to change at all. There are also points where the percent complete goes backwards. The file times never did change from 10:04. It's getting a little late this evening, but I'll try what you suggested tomorrow in transferring these VOB files to a DVD and hope for the best. As you mention, long term, this is not an acceptabvle solution. If it helps pinpoint the real problem, then no problem.

               

              Any thoughts so far?

               

              Again - Thanks.

               

              Dan

              • 4. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                AYDY87 Level 1

                Hmmm. This didn't print in the nice clean columns I hoped for. I have this data in Excel (tab or comma delimited as needed) if it's too hard to deal with. Just let me know.

                 

                Thanks- Dan

                • 5. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                  Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

                  Hunt's first suggestion is the best:

                   

                  If you're failing at 95%, the most likely issue is an interface between the program and your DVD burner.

                   

                  Try setting the program to burn your DVD files to a folder on your hard drive rather than directly to a disc and see if that resolves your problem.

                  • 6. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                    AYDY87 Level 1

                    Hunt and Steve (and anyone else with ideas),

                     

                    I guess I wouldn't be that surprised to find out the burner was involved, but I did run the test that Hunt suggested. I tried to provide a listing of the results and they were pretty messy - I think there were some non-printable characters that messed up the format so I'm going to try again.

                     

                    This is what happeneed when I told the program to burn to file:

                    Basically the program sat and "encoded media" for 1 hour, 5 minutes, eventually reported that it was 96% complete. It then stepped back a percentage point to 95% complete and began "compiling media". After doing that for about 7 minutes, the folder "20091229_204250\VIDEO_TS" appeared in my D:\Test directory. and was populated with a good number of ".VOB" files (see below). The timestamp on these was originally 9:55, but then changed to 10:04 nine minutes later. From that point through completion of this entire process, the contents of "20091229_204250\VIDEO_TS" did not change in any way I could find.

                     

                    The program continuted to report that it was "Compiling Media" for another 45 minutes or so.and the percent complete sat mostly at 95%, but rose to 96% about 1/2 way through this 45 minute interval.

                     

                    To me, this then got really weird as the percent complete dropped to 56% as the program reported that it was now "burning to folder" (even though it had apparently finished that 45 minutes earlier), stayed at this point for another 15 minutes and then finally stated "Burn Complete".

                     

                    As mentioned - the detail is below if you really want to dig through it.

                     

                    I THINK I may have ended up with files that can be burned into a DVD - I still need to try that part and haven't had the time, what with a couple other issues. Of course, I don't want to have to jump through these hoops to do this and I'm confident there's a realistic solution and I continue to be grateful to you folks for stepping in and helping inexperienced folks like me.

                     

                    I still think that whatever it did was weird and would be curious to get your reactions to my "chronology". If you have any ideas on how I might evaluate the health of the relationship between the program and my DVD burner, I'd be thankful for that as well.

                     

                    So - there you go. Have I said thanks yet? (Yikes)

                     

                    Hope you all are having a great Christmas and New Years.

                     

                    Dan

                     

                     

                    Columns:
                    Time - System clock
                    Elapsed - Time elapsed from start of analysis
                    % Comp - Percent complete as reported by Premiere Elements
                    CPU Use - As reported by Windows task manager
                    Mem Use - As reported by Windows task manager
                    Program Phase - As reported by Premiere Elements
                    Test directory - VIDEO_TS if it exists
                    File TimeStamp - Time stamp on the files in VIDEO_TS

                     

                    8:42                                  
                    8:46  0:04   4% 97%  468,872 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    8:50  0:08  11% 94%  469,360 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    8:55  0:13  21% 98%  470,684 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    9:00  0:18  30% 98%  530,544 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    9:05  0:23  35% 94%  534,768 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    9:10  0:28  45% 98%  534,796 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    9:15  0:33  54% 98%  534,812 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    9:20  0:38  61% 97%  534,840 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    9:25  0:43  67% 98%  537,552 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    9:30  0:48  74% 95%  541,052 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    9:35  0:53  82% 93%  541,524 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    9:40  0:58  89% 95%  541,524 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    9:45  1:03  95% 98%  541,524 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    9:47  1:05  96% 80%  442,588 Encoding Media    Empty    
                    9:48  1:06  95% 76%  451,216 Compiling Media   Empty    
                    9:50  1:08  95% 80%  452,556 Compiling Media   Empty    
                    9:55  1:13  95% 80%  466,032 Compiling Media   Empty


                    At this point the following files were created in the VIDEO_TS folder - Originally their time stamp was 9:55. After 9 minutes it changed to 10:04.


                    D:\Test\20091229_204250\VIDEO_TS>dir
                    Volume in drive D is Work Volume
                    Volume Serial Number is 5C00-99C3

                    Directory of D:\Test\20091229_204250\VIDEO_TS

                    12/29/2009  09:55 PM    <DIR>          .
                    12/29/2009  09:55 PM    <DIR>          ..
                    12/29/2009  10:04 PM             6,144 VIDEO_TS.BUP
                    12/29/2009  10:04 PM             6,144 VIDEO_TS.IFO
                    12/29/2009  10:04 PM            55,296 VTS_01_0.BUP
                    12/29/2009  10:04 PM            55,296 VTS_01_0.IFO
                    12/29/2009  10:04 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_01_1.VOB
                    12/29/2009  10:04 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_01_2.VOB
                    12/29/2009  10:04 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_01_3.VOB
                    12/29/2009  10:04 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_01_4.VOB
                    12/29/2009  10:04 PM       312,125,440 VTS_01_5.VOB
                                   9 File(s)  4,607,084,544 bytes
                                   2 Dir(s)  189,865,172,992 bytes free

                     

                    The chronology continues...

                    9:56  1:14  95% 77%  501,780 Compiling Media   VIDEO_TS  9:55
                    10:00  1:18  95% 78%  508,412 Compiling Media   VIDEO_TS  9:55
                    10:05  1:23  95% 50%  455,756 Compiling Media   VIDEO_TS 10:04
                    10:10  1:28  95% 48%  455,756 Compiling Media   VIDEO_TS 10:04
                    10:15  1:33  96% 48%  455,756 Compiling Media   VIDEO_TS 10:04
                    10:20  1:38  96% 48%  453,944 Compiling Media   VIDEO_TS 10:04
                    10:25  1:43  96% 49%  453,944 Compiling Media   VIDEO_TS 10:04
                    10:30  1:48  96% 49%  453,040 Compiling Media   VIDEO_TS 10:04
                    10:35  1:53  96% 49%  452,132 Compiling Media   VIDEO_TS 10:04
                    10:40  1:58  96% 49%  451,228 Compiling Media   VIDEO_TS 10:04
                    10:54  2:12  56% 47%  446,692 Burning to Folder VIDEO_TS 10:04
                    11:06  2:24  58% 50%  442,168 Burning to Folder VIDEO_TS 10:04
                    11:09  2:27 100%  0%  467,156 Burn Complete     VIDEO_TS 10:04

                    • 7. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                      Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

                      Forgive me if you've already said this, but there's so much information here that it's a dig to get to the essential.

                       

                      What type of camcorder is this video coming from and how did you get it into your computer?

                      • 8. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                        the_wine_snob Level 9

                        Thanks for testing and reporting. Now, when you have the opportunity, please do one of two things:

                         

                        1.) use ImgBurn to physically burn that VIDEO_TS folder and all files to a blank disc. Play in a PC w/ software DVD player, or set-top player.

                         

                        2.) use a software DVD program to test play the files in the VIDEO_TS folder.

                         

                        Report on the outcome of either/both of those.

                         

                        Now, the progress bar and its percentages are reflective of the various processes that are being performed. Don't confuse those numbers related to the total project. First, the program must sort out your Project, its navigation, test whether it is 100% DVD compliant, order the Project's Assets, Transcode all Assets to MPEG-2 muxed data stream, after handling all the navigational aspect, then break up the MPEG-2 to fit into the VOB structure, check everything again, write the initial structure to the HDD, then write the VOB files, and finally check one more time. It's really pretty involved.

                         

                        Depending on the speed of one's machine, the Assets, the settings for Transcoding and the navigation, these can take some time to complete.

                         

                        Hope that this helps, good luck and Happy New Year!

                         

                        Hunt

                        • 9. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                          AYDY87 Level 1

                          Steve - Sorry to bury you under so much info. I'm a tech support guy where I work and am generally starved for details when I work with a client. Hence I sometimes go a little overboard.

                           

                          The camera is a Sony Handycam DCR-DVD105. It's a mid/lower line camcorder that writes to the 1.4GB DVD's. I have it set to record mode "SP" and the disks are formatted in "Video" rather than "VR" mode as most programs like Pinnacle and Premeire don't seem to handle those disks very gracefully (Whole other issue).

                           

                          Getting the data into my computer was a matter of taking the 1.4GB disk out of the camera (again - formatted "Video"), putting it into the computer's DVD drive and then in Premiere I selected "File","Get Media From","DVD (Camcorder or PC DVD Drive)". The import appeared to go pretty smoothly. My shots were then available to me in the "Organize" screen. Creating the scene I wanted was also pretty smooth. I just need to figure out why I'm regularly trashing the target DVD's.

                           

                          Something I really should have mentioned earlier - I did get one copy of this video to burn one time and it ran to completion - no error, no hang. Not sure what I did differently, but I seem to have used up my luck. I need more copies though and that has not gone well. The burner by the way is the one that came with the Dell GX280. Device Manager reports it as being an "Optiarc DVD RW AD-7220A".

                           

                          Also - I was able to get Pinnacle Studio 12 to write to this DVD burner. I've been getting away from using Pinnacle as I run into Video/Audio sync problems, frame dropping, program crashing if I did any significant editing, etc. and frankly, I like Premeire better. I did recently transfer an old BetaMax tape into Pinnacle and got very usable output from this DVD burner,

                           

                           

                          Hunt - I will do the things you suggest and will report back. Considering a few "Honey-do's" and the holiday, it may be a day or so.

                           

                          Thanks all.

                           

                          Dan

                          • 10. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                            the_wine_snob Level 9

                            Two comments: when you have the camera's miniDVD disc in the drive, be sure to copy those files over to the HDD, and then Get Media from that location.

                             

                            Next, the Optiarc multi-drives are thought to be quite good. They are the product of a joint-venture by NEC and Sony, and seem to perform very well. Even on laptops, with all sorts of environmental attacks, and trekking about into and out of cases, they get high marks.

                             

                            Now, if what you want is to just burn additional copies of your good, completed DVD, you can use a utility, like ImgBurn, to Duplicate Disc. Nero, and Roxio both usually have a similar utility for doing the same.

                             

                            Good luck,

                             

                            Hunt

                            • 11. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                              Kodebuster Level 3

                              "The camera is a Sony Handycam DCR-DVD105"

                               

                              Dan, I have the Sony DCR-DVD305, which is a similiar camera to yours (with just a few extra features, but they are basically the same).

                               

                              To avoid grief or aggravation, I strongly recommend that you try not to work with PE with the existing VOB files.

                               

                              I've been down this path and have found PE to become unstable with any number of strange issues when dealing with large VOB files.

                               

                              For best results convert the VOB's to DV-AVI, then import the AVI files into PE for editing.

                               

                              Barring any issues with your system, or software setup, once converted to DV-AVI, your editing experience will increase dramatically.

                               

                              You can use Prism to convert from VOB to DV-AVI, which can be found here under the Adobe FAQ's:

                               

                              http://forums.adobe.com/thread/415317?tstart=0

                              • 12. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                                AYDY87 Level 1

                                This information sounds like pure gold. Just out of curiosity, do you know if the same program accepts the .VRO files created by formatting these disks in "VR" mode? I'm struggling with that as well.

                                 

                                I do want to try Hunt's suggestion of burning the files I have already created, but I will absolutely use your method on future efforts.

                                 

                                I hope all of you folks have even the slightest inking of what a great service you provide. I'd be drowning in this issue if you all weren't nudging me in the right direction. Much gratitude.

                                 

                                I've got a rough couple of days ahead of me time-wise, but the first chance I get, I'll do these things and report back on my findings

                                 

                                Dan.

                                • 13. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                                  Kodebuster Level 3

                                  "Just out of curiosity, do you know if the same program accepts the .VRO files created by formatting these disks in "VR" mode? I'm struggling with that as well"

                                   

                                  The only benefit of VR Mode to my knowledge is that it is in a format that allows you to edit and delete scenes using the facilities built into the Camera.

                                   

                                  If I recall correctly, when you finalize a disk with the VR mode, and try using the disc with your PC, the PC would not recognize the format, making it useless on a PC.

                                   

                                  (As you can tell, I don't use the VR mode at all, and stick with the VOB's, but religiously convert to DV-AVI for hassle free editing).

                                   

                                  If you use the supplied Sony software (Picture Package) to download video from your Camera to PC, (it will convert to Mpeg during transfer). It also has usefull software that allows you to cut unwanted scenes and save a resultant Mpeg file. You can then take the Mpeg file and use Prism to convert to DV-AVI.

                                   

                                  The end goal is to get either the Mpeg, or VOB files into the AVI format, this should take you to the promised land...

                                  • 14. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                                    AYDY87 Level 1

                                    Hunt - I think your ImgBurn is going to be the ticket to get me out of my current mess. Looks like I'm getting good disks. As I move forward with this, I'm going to try Kodebuster's suggestion of importing my VOB files via DV-AVI. I'm hoping that this will not introduce any loss of video/audio sync problems. I'm assuming from his confidence in the product that things like that are minimal if they exist at all.

                                     

                                    I'm continuing to work towards and "end to end" process with minimal extra moving parts, but it looks like I'm either going to have DV-AVI on the front end or ImgBurn on the back. Either wat, I'm happy to be able to get a finished product.

                                    • 15. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                                      the_wine_snob Level 9
                                      As I move forward with this, I'm going to try Kodebuster's suggestion of importing my VOB files via DV-AVI. I'm hoping that this will not introduce any loss of video/audio sync problems. I'm assuming from his confidence in the product that things like that are minimal if they exist at all.

                                       

                                      The one quality issue will have come, when the camera introduces the first MPEG-2 compression, and then you must recompress to MPEG-2 a second time.

                                       

                                      Converting the MPEG-2's, enclosed in the VOB container will not harm quality, any more than it has already been degraded, and will allow one to edit much more smoothly.

                                       

                                      It's the double MPEG compression that does the damage. Still, many find even the double compression to be just fine. The acceptance will be in the eye of the beholder.

                                       

                                      Good luck,

                                       

                                      Hunt

                                      • 16. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                                        Kodebuster Level 3

                                        As far as a degrade in quality, I'm in agreement with Hunt.

                                         

                                        With this brand of Sony camera, I've used both approaches as posted above --->> Sony Software transfer to PC as Mpeg, and VOB's straight off of the Mini-Disk, then a convert of either Mpeg or VOB to DV-AVI (via Prism or a similiar program to convert to DV-AVI, like Windows Movie Maker).

                                         

                                        In both cases my old eyes saw no noticeable difference in quality from the original to the converted, then the final output using PE.

                                         

                                        I'm sure we're taking a slight hit along the way, but for me it is acceptable (and I rather have hassle free editing with DV-AVI, rather then a small bump in quality that comes with trying to edit Mpeg or VOB's natively and all the heartache that goes with it).

                                         

                                        I've used PE1, PE4, and now PE7, and I can tell you from experience that PE does not act nice with large Mpeg or VOB files from this Sony Camera.

                                         

                                        What good is editing natively from this Camera for best quality, if every time you try to edit and produce a video project, the application goes off the deep end...

                                        • 17. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                                          the_wine_snob Level 9

                                          The areas to check most closely for degradation will be in scenes with a lot of movement, either the camera, or the subject. Look at the edges of the subjects on the screen. Depending on the subject matter, one might never pick up on the second-generation MPEG-2 Transcoding. Get a lot of rapid pans, or subjects with fast motion, and the edges seem to smear, or stair-step and break up a bit. Actually, even with original source footage in DV-AVI, some of this can be seen, when going to DVD-Video - just much less of it.

                                           

                                          I have to edit footage that has been previously Transcoded to MPEG-2, for DVD-Video, and it normally looks pretty good. I can usually pick up which footage has undergone the the double compression, but often a client cannot (or maybe will not tell me, as I have asked for material prior to that MPEG-2 compression, and have told them of the problems? ).

                                           

                                          Good luck, and unfortunately, there is not much that can be done in post-production to "cure" this. Smart Rendering (for footage that has not been altered in any way), is as close as one can get.

                                           

                                          Hunt

                                          • 18. Re: Failure on DVD Burn at 95%
                                            jackscon joseph Level 1

                                            Premiere elements has some issues using  longduration VOB files. Please convert these files to MPEG then burn a DVD. I think most of issues would be resolved.