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1. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
Captiv8r Jan 12, 2010 9:24 AM (in response to yjia70)Hi there
For starters, you should read the Before you post topic as it is intended to help you.
As for your issue, I'm thinking that you might work around it by using the Advanced Actions and Variables feature of Captivate 4 to manipulate the score.
Cheers... Rick
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2. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
yjia70 Jan 12, 2010 9:50 AM (in response to Captiv8r)Sorry about the duplicate posting.Won't do it again.
Actually, I am using the Variables/Advanced actions feature to branch out the lesson. I need the name of an internal system variable that tracks user points from answering questions correctly on the questions slides as well on regular slides. cpQuizInfoPointsscored isn't the one I'm looking for, and I tried a couple of other system variables from the pull-down list. None seems to do the job. I was hoping someone more familiar with system variables in Captivate 4 can help me with that.
Anyway, thanks for your suggestion.
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3. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
Captiv8r Jan 12, 2010 12:51 PM (in response to yjia70)Hi again
Are you able to manipulate the cpQuizInfoPointsscored variable?
My thought is that perhaps you could manipulate variables using Advanced Actions to ensure the Click Boxes used are somehow added to the variable.
Cheers... Rick
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4. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
yjia70 Jan 13, 2010 5:10 AM (in response to Captiv8r)cpQuizInfoPointsscored won't work. I'm thinking maybe I should use a custom variable to store student scores. I'll let you know if I can get it to work.
Thanks.
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5. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
rmeyer233 Feb 10, 2010 3:26 PM (in response to yjia70)Were you ever able to get anything working here? I've run into the exact same problem and I'm hoping I don't have to do everything with Advanced Actions, but will if I have to.
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6. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
yjia70 Feb 10, 2010 6:41 PM (in response to rmeyer233)Yes, I created a custom variable to store user points and it worked.
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7. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
bazi Feb 25, 2010 6:35 PM (in response to yjia70)were you able to pass the custom variable to your lms?
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8. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
Lilybiri Feb 25, 2010 11:50 PM (in response to bazi)Hello,
The score on the score slide will be correct, includes the points scored by the Question slides as well as the points attached to interactive objects. This score will be passed to the LMS. I'm pretty sure because I have uploaded quite a lot of mixed assessments like that on our LMS, which is Blackboard based.
Lilybiri
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9. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
bazi Feb 26, 2010 9:28 AM (in response to Lilybiri)How do you tell cp to use the custom variable instead of the system built in variable?
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10. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
Lilybiri Feb 26, 2010 11:28 AM (in response to bazi)Hello,
You do not have to tell CP to give the right score, the one mentioned on the score slide include all scored things (just as you can see it in the Advanced Interaction view). You certainly had the experience that the system variable cpQuizInfoPointsscored only totals the result of the Question slide scores, but the one on the score slide (never got to know which system variable it is) totals not only the scores of the Question slides but also all the scores of interactive objects. I have checked it several times: compared the score passed to the LMS with the score mentioned on the score slide. But I did only use our LMS.
Lilybiri
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11. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
bazi Feb 26, 2010 11:56 AM (in response to Lilybiri)Thank you Lilybiri. I iwll test to see if this works with my LMS. Also I forgot to mention that I was looking to pass percent completed and not points scored. I don't know if this works the same as points. Basically Im trying to solve my issue posted here http://forums.adobe.com/thread/585397?tstart=0
thanks
B
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12. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
Lilybiri Feb 26, 2010 12:15 PM (in response to bazi)Hi again,
Ask myself always to pass the percentage, avoids having to calculate it myself
But first I really tested it out to be sure that all the scores were totalled in the passed score (and calculated percentage).
Hope it works for you too,
Lilybiri
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13. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
bazi Feb 26, 2010 12:49 PM (in response to Lilybiri)yes but my scenerio doesnt allow the proper percentage to be passed due to the nature of design of the quiz. Basically i need to give the users 2 attempts to answer a question with a different incorrect feedback message....but my questions are simulation based so I can't use the built in quesiton slides (that would be to easy). So the only way I could get the multiple incorrect feedback to work was using multiple click boxes with different messages inccorect messages for each (incorrect try again , incorrect see course # ) the only problem is that if a user get the question right the first time the second click box doesn't get tallied and the quiz is scored incorrectly which throws off the % correct. I really need a way to implement this scenerio and get the proper % correct sent to the lms.
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14. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
bh_s Jun 28, 2011 3:26 AM (in response to Captiv8r)CP4
Hi,
I'm trying to update the cpQuizInfoPointsscored variable using advanced actions...but no luck. Can anyone help?
Basically I'm building a quiz where some slides are quiz slides and some are normal slides where I build a question. For example a normal slide asks the user to type in some answers into 2 text boxes.I store these in variables.I want to put a 'Done' button which will have the advanced action with the logic
if var1="x" and var2="y" then
add 5 to the cpQuizInfoPointsscored
...I just can't figure out how to add 5 to the cpQuizInfoPointsscored variable...
I would really appreciate help on this...
I need to pass these scores to an LMS.
Thanks
SB
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15. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
Lilybiri Jun 28, 2011 3:37 AM (in response to bh_s)Hello,
Have mentioned this so many times, so sorry that the Search function is down. NO, it is not possible to change this system variable by an advanced action, a lot of those Quizzing System variables are READ ONLY.
The only way to add points to the score is either by using Question slides, or by using interactive objects and attaching the points to those in the Properties panel, Reporting Accordion. For your example, you'll have to put points to the TEB's.Lilybiri
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bh_s Jun 28, 2011 3:59 AM (in response to Lilybiri)Thanks a lot. I've been struggling with this for a while.
And sorry about you having to repeat this answer. I did spend time going
through the forums. Even read your blog, then found that in this thread
someone talks of manipulating this quiz variable. That made me wonder if it
could be done.
Thanks again for the prompt reply.
Regards,
SB
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17. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
bh_s Jun 28, 2011 5:03 AM (in response to Lilybiri)Hi,
It's working fine with scoreable TEBs. Thanks.
Another query ...On another slide I want to add a button like 'Done'. A
click on that should add to the score only if some other condition is met
for example
On click Done
if name='xyz' and 'another condition'
then treat it as success and add to score
else
treat it as failure
Is it possible to implement something like this? I would really really
appreciate your help.
I'm actually trying to create a 'match the following' and I am able to
create a normal non scoring slide for this using variables to track what is
matched with what. The problem is I can't manage to make it scoring.
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18. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
Lilybiri Jun 28, 2011 6:16 AM (in response to bh_s)Hello,
Since weeks I'm trying to find time to prepare a blog post about reporting to a LMS with custom questions, but never seem to find time. It is a bit complicated because of some reasons:
- Quizzing variables are read only
- You cannot have a negative score attached to an object or Question slide
- All score registrated in the Advanced Interaction view will be added to the total score.
The use case you described would be one of the examples I want to describe. Since it is a white/black situation, try out this work flow:
- create 2 buttons 'Done1' and 'Done2' that are looking identical, hide them both
- attach a score of 0 points to Done1 and X points to Done2: both scores will be added to the total score, but since one of them is 0, no problem
- create a conditional advanced action as you described; you can add points to a user variable as well but to add it to the Total Score that will be reported to the LMS
- show the proper button: Done1 if the condition was not met, Done2 if it was OK.
- the user will click the button, and the score will be added to the Total score
Hope this makes sense?
Lilybiri
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19. Re: cpQuizInfoPointsscored
bh_s Jun 28, 2011 7:19 AM (in response to Lilybiri)Thanks Lilybiri, you just solved my problem. And I really appreciate your
quick response.
Regards,
SB



