5 Replies Latest reply on Jan 25, 2010 3:20 PM by nealeh

    elements 8: burning project to disc

    reef Rafting Level 1

      with elements 8, having finished a video project I want to burn to a DVD+R disc. So go to share. Select disc. Select under Burn to: Folder(4.7GB). Then select burn. It goes to Encoding menu 1 of 1. Fine. Then shows Ëncoding Media"  But it then instead of burning to the disc stores anoter copy on the hard drive. (When I check the discs properties theres nothing on it.) and no activity has happened to cd drive.

      So then I have to go to user menu on computer and select file and choose burn. This (after 20 minutes) shows a file burnt. But I put it into DVD player and its not recognised. Great.

      I then use the cyberlink programme on comp to open and watch project file which works. But I need it to play automatically on a DVD player.

      The video camera is a can legria HF20.

      Cheers. Phil

        • 1. Re: elements 8: burning project to disc
          Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

          I'm not clear on the workaround you're describing. Are you saying you're burning to a folder on your hard drive rather than directly to a DVD disc? And, if so, what program are you using to burn your disc?

           

          If not, try selecting the option to burn to a folder on your hard drive. And, if the burn is successful, check to see if the program has created a VIDEO_TS folder that includes several VOB files.

           

          BTW, what operating system are you using? Is it by any chance the 64-bit version of Windows 7?

          • 2. Re: elements 8: burning project to disc
            reef Rafting Level 1

            Hi.

            The computers an i7 925 with windows 7, 64 bit.

            The file is in User > My Documents >

            Open it. It has

                      OpenDVD

                      VIDEO_ TS

            when I open (video_TS) it has 5 files

            Video_TS.BUP

            VIDEO_TS

            VTS_01_0.BUP etc etc

             

            I just noticed that the icons next to 3 of these are the cyberlink power dvd icon.

            The computer came with Nero and cyberlink. I read in another forum that these programmes hook the dvd drive and have to be removed?

            The programme Im using to burn to disc is just the User section option to Burn.

            will have to wait to tomorrow to save directly to hard drive as an option. Midnight here.

            Cheers

            Is it having TS files that is the reason it wont play in a standard dvd player?

            • 3. Re: elements 8: burning project to disc
              the_wine_snob Level 9

              Hello, and welcome to the forum.

               

              What you probably read was that "certain modules" in Roxio, or Nero, will "hook" the burner. This is true, if those particular modules are installed with other parts of the programs. For Roxio, the module is DLA, and for Nero, it's InCD. These are packet -writing modules and will turn the burner into a virtual HDD (Hard Disk Drive) in the eyes of the OS, thus allowing one to Drag-n-Drop files to a blank DVD/CD, just like it was HDD. These modules load at boot-up, and basically tell the OS that the burner is a HDD. When Adobe programs attempt to burn to a disc, they cannot find any burners, as the OS is now displaying them as HDD's. There are a couple of ways to handle this:

               

              1.) Uninstall these modules - usually, it is easier to do a complete uninstall of the full product, and then do a Custom Install, of just what one needs, omitting either the DLA, or InCD module. It was once the default for these programs to install everything, UNLESS a Custom Install was chosen. Many have reported that this has been changed with later versions, and now to get the modules, plus others, one MUST do the Custom Install. The last version of Nero that I did install was not that way, but newer versions' installers could well be different. This will mean that Adobe programs can see and access the burner(s), with no problem, but that one will not have the Drag-n-Drop function of packet-writing.

               

              2.) If one does want Drag-n-Drop, then the Adobe products will not be able to work with the burner(s), but other programs can. One such burning utility is the free ImgBurn. It looks beyond what the OS is reporting and knows that, say D:\ is really a burner, regardless of how it has been hooked by DLA, or InCD. One would just use the Adobe program to Burn to Folder. This Folder will be the full DVD-Video VIDEO_TS folder with the necessary files (mostly INF, BUP and VOB's) inside. It will be located on the user's HDD, where the Adobe program was directed to write it. Then, one would use ImgBurn (or another burning utility, like Nero, or Roxio, or CyberLink) to do the physical Burn to blank media in the burner. [Adobe Encore will also write an ISO (Image file), that can be handled by ImgBurn (or other utiltiy) to create the VIDEO_TS folder, or as an archive file. Some other Adobe programs cannot write to an ISO.]

               

              Just having Roxio, or Nero, is not a sign that the packet-writing modules ARE installed, though they might be. It is just these modules that get in the way - not the rest of the program suite. *

               

              There is a FAQ Entry from the Adobe Encore Forum, that is very good in explaining various software, etc., that can get in the way of using any Adobe program to burn to disc.

               

              Some people wonder why, when the Burn to Folder and open up that folder, some of the files have an icon for programs like CyberLink's PowerDVD. Well, the reason for that is that these file types are registered with the OS for that, or a similar DVD software player. To play a DVD on your computer, you need to have such a software player installed. When you do that installation, it will register certain file types with the OS. If one has their multi-drive set to AutoPlay, then the OS will see these registered file types, and immediately launch that DVD software player, assuming that you will want to play the DVD-Video material. The reason that no Adobe program is registered is that none is a DVD software player - they are editors, or authoring programs, not players.

               

              Here are some useful links to articles on the structure of the VOB files inside of the VIDEO_TS folder, and also on which brands of blank media are the best to use:

              http://forums.adobe.com/thread/464549?tstart=0

               

              http://forums.adobe.com/thread/524569?tstart=0

               

              Hope that this helps,

               

              Hunt

               

              * There are some other modules in Roxio and Nero, that can get in the way, though in a different way. These suites usually include little utilities that will monitor certain folders and folder types, looking for files that might need to be burned to disc. These are often referred to as "sniffers," or "watchers." They try to take the guesswork out of burning to disc, but sap resources, and constantly monitor any folder, that it "thinks" might be used to burn a DVD, surveying each and every file that is written to those folders. I find these modules pretty useless, as I know what I want to do with my folders and the files inside, and also remove/do not install these. Many have reported system crashes, or program hangs, when these modules spring into action. At the very least, they use computer resources that could be better invested in editing, or authoring.

              • 4. Re: elements 8: burning project to disc
                Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

                Meantime, it sounds as though Premiere Elements is successfully creating your DVD files.

                 

                Have you used Nero to burn the VIDEO_TS folder as a playable DVD? That should be all there is to creating a DVD.

                 

                (The fact that you're seeing a logo from your DVD player software on your VOB files is not a sign of a problem, by the way. That just means that it's your default program for playing DVD files.)

                • 5. Re: elements 8: burning project to disc
                  nealeh Level 5

                  reef Rafting wrote:


                  when I open (video_TS) it has 5 files

                  Video_TS.BUP

                  VIDEO_TS

                  VTS_01_0.BUP etc etc


                  The programme Im using to burn to disc is just the User section option to Burn.


                  Is it having TS files that is the reason it wont play in a standard dvd player?

                  OK - several points to make here:

                  1. The existence of the VIDEO_TS folder under 'My Documents' shows the project has been saved to the hard drive .
                  2. Just copying the files to a DVD using 'user section option to burn' will not make a DVD playable on DVD players.
                  3. To make a playable DVD in Nero use the StartSmart, select the make a video DVD (can't quite recall the exact description) and point it at your VIDEO_TS Folder. Or you can use ImgBurn.
                  4. The TS folder is the one required to play it in a standard DVD player - it's the way you are copying it that is wrong. See point 3.

                   

                  Hope this helps,

                   

                  Cheers,
                  --
                  Neale
                  Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children