26 Replies Latest reply on Oct 4, 2007 1:29 PM by Newsgroup_User

    Keyword metatag <making it automatic>

    SyKeSnr1 Level 1
      Hello,

      I have a question concerning keyword metatags that might concern anyone who has to create a large e-commerce site. Like other websites I have a lot of product-detail pages generated by the same detail.php page. For this reason, and because products come and go very often I need a way of making the keyword metatag for all these detail pages automated.

      To do this I was thinking of inserting the description variable ( <?php echo $row_Recordset1['Description']; ?>) into the keyword meta tag as such: <meta name="keywords" content="<?php echo $row_Recordset1['Description']; ?>" />. However, I still need to make some automated adjustments then for every page:
      1. every space " " needs to be converted to ", " to seperate the words
      2. more importantly, unimportant words like "the" etc need not to be inputted and deleted from the keyword metatag.

      How is it possible to do this?

      Kind regards.
        • 1. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
          SyKeSnr1 Level 1
          quote:

          Originally posted by: SyKeSnr1
          Hello,

          I have a question concerning keyword metatags that might concern anyone who has to create a large e-commerce site. Like other websites I have a lot of product-detail pages generated by the same detail.php page. For this reason, and because products come and go very often I need a way of making the keyword metatag for all these detail pages automated.

          To do this I was thinking of inserting the description variable ( <?php echo $row_Recordset1['Description']; ?>) into the keyword meta tag as such: <meta name="keywords" content="<?php echo $row_Recordset1['Description']; ?>" />. However, I still need to make some automated adjustments then for every page:
          1. every space " " needs to be converted to ", " to seperate the words
          2. more importantly, unimportant words like "the" etc need not to be inputted and deleted from the keyword metatag.

          How is it possible to do this?

          Kind regards.


          forgot to mention the third and fourth thing necesarry:
          3. it needs to delete words that are double (so if the word flashlight appears twice in the description the second one should be deleted)
          4. After 20 keywords (optimum for searchengines i read) the descriptions variable should stop inputing words)
          • 2. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
            Level 7
            Is am wondering if this isn't a giant waste of time since most important
            Search Engines apparently ignore meta tag keywords anyway.


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            • 3. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
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              It is indeed.

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              "E Michael Brandt" <michael@valleywebdesigns.com> wrote in message
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              > Is am wondering if this isn't a giant waste of time since most important
              > Search Engines apparently ignore meta tag keywords anyway.
              >
              >
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              • 4. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                Level 7
                > 1. every space " " needs to be converted to ", " to seperate the words

                Why?

                > 2. more importantly, unimportant words like "the" etc need not to be
                > inputted
                > and deleted from the keyword metatag.

                At this point, I'd punt and forget the keyword metatag.

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                "SyKeSnr1" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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                > Hello,
                >
                > I have a question concerning keyword metatags that might concern anyone
                > who
                > has to create a large e-commerce site. Like other websites I have a lot of
                > product-detail pages generated by the same detail.php page. For this
                > reason,
                > and because products come and go very often I need a way of making the
                > keyword
                > metatag for all these detail pages automated.
                >
                > To do this I was thinking of inserting the description variable ( <?php
                > echo
                > $row_Recordset1['Description']; ?>) into the keyword meta tag as such:
                > <meta
                > name="keywords" content="<?php echo $row_Recordset1['Description']; ?>"
                > />.
                > However, I still need to make some automated adjustments then for every
                > page:
                > 1. every space " " needs to be converted to ", " to seperate the words
                > 2. more importantly, unimportant words like "the" etc need not to be
                > inputted
                > and deleted from the keyword metatag.
                >
                > How is it possible to do this?
                >
                > Kind regards.
                >


                • 5. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                  SyKeSnr1 Level 1
                  quote:

                  Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
                  > 1. every space " " needs to be converted to ", " to seperate the words

                  Why?

                  > 2. more importantly, unimportant words like "the" etc need not to be
                  > inputted
                  > and deleted from the keyword metatag.

                  At this point, I'd punt and forget the keyword metatag.

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                  "SyKeSnr1" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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                  > Hello,
                  >
                  > I have a question concerning keyword metatags that might concern anyone
                  > who
                  > has to create a large e-commerce site. Like other websites I have a lot of
                  > product-detail pages generated by the same detail.php page. For this
                  > reason,
                  > and because products come and go very often I need a way of making the
                  > keyword
                  > metatag for all these detail pages automated.
                  >
                  > To do this I was thinking of inserting the description variable ( <?php
                  > echo
                  > $row_Recordset1['Description']; ?>) into the keyword meta tag as such:
                  > <meta
                  > name="keywords" content="<?php echo $row_Recordset1['Description']; ?>"
                  > />.
                  > However, I still need to make some automated adjustments then for every
                  > page:
                  > 1. every space " " needs to be converted to ", " to seperate the words
                  > 2. more importantly, unimportant words like "the" etc need not to be
                  > inputted
                  > and deleted from the keyword metatag.
                  >
                  > How is it possible to do this?
                  >
                  > Kind regards.
                  >





                  Well, this is not what i understood. Keyword metatags are very important in combination with the keywords I reasearched which would give me maximum traffic with minimal keyword competition. I got this information of dan thies, a seo guru or something. So i really do want to imput these options, can anybody give me any pointers on that?
                  • 6. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                    Level 7
                    Don't mistake the use of keywords in your page content and your semantic
                    markup with the use of the keyword metatag. A poorly built page with a
                    keyword metatag will get no benefit from the keyword metatag. A well built
                    page with a keyword metatag will get unmeasurable benefit from the keyword
                    metatag. So, why use them at all?

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                    "SyKeSnr1" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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                    >
                    quote:

                    Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
                    > > 1. every space " " needs to be converted to ", " to seperate the words
                    >
                    > Why?
                    >
                    > > 2. more importantly, unimportant words like "the" etc need not to be
                    > > inputted
                    > > and deleted from the keyword metatag.
                    >
                    > At this point, I'd punt and forget the keyword metatag.
                    >
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                    > "SyKeSnr1" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
                    > news:fdtnkb$nj3$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                    > > Hello,
                    > >
                    > > I have a question concerning keyword metatags that might concern anyone
                    > > who
                    > > has to create a large e-commerce site. Like other websites I have a lot
                    > > of
                    > > product-detail pages generated by the same detail.php page. For this
                    > > reason,
                    > > and because products come and go very often I need a way of making the
                    > > keyword
                    > > metatag for all these detail pages automated.
                    > >
                    > > To do this I was thinking of inserting the description variable ( <?php
                    > > echo
                    > > $row_Recordset1['Description']; ?>) into the keyword meta tag as such:
                    > > <meta
                    > > name="keywords" content="<?php echo $row_Recordset1['Description']; ?>"
                    > > />.
                    > > However, I still need to make some automated adjustments then for every
                    > > page:
                    > > 1. every space " " needs to be converted to ", " to seperate the words
                    > > 2. more importantly, unimportant words like "the" etc need not to be
                    > > inputted
                    > > and deleted from the keyword metatag.
                    > >
                    > > How is it possible to do this?
                    > >
                    > > Kind regards.
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                    >

                    >
                    > Well, this is not what i understood. Keyword metatags are very important
                    > in
                    > combination with the keywords I reasearched which would give me maximum
                    > traffic
                    > with minimal keyword competition. I got this information of dan thies, a
                    > seo
                    > guru or something. So i really do want to imput these options, can anybody
                    > give
                    > me any pointers on that?
                    >
                    >


                    • 7. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                      SyKeSnr1 Level 1
                      quote:

                      A well built page with a keyword metatag will get unmeasurable benefit from the keyword
                      metatag. So, why use them at all?



                      eh...thats why....

                      So I really need somthing that will strike out all the double words from the keywords metatag and that sticks to the limit of 20 words...
                      • 8. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                        Level 7
                        SyKeSnr1 wrote:
                        >
                        quote:

                        A well built page with a keyword metatag will get unmeasurable benefit from
                        > the keyword
                        > metatag. So, why use them at all?
                        >

                        >
                        > eh...thats why....
                        >
                        > So I really need somthing that will strike out all the double words from the
                        > keywords metatag and that sticks to the limit of 20 words...
                        >

                        What Murray means by 'unmeasureable' is the keyword metatag is of so
                        small importance theses days to search engines as for it to play any
                        significant part in the ranking of your page............so just forget
                        the keyword metatag and make sure the text on the pages in the rest of
                        your site is well composed.

                        As far as I see theres no point in using php to try and alternate the
                        keyword metatag on your details page because the spider will only search
                        the original details page. How can it search something which has not yet
                        been generated until the correct details page has been call for? It can
                        only search pages that EXIST in the site.

                        I would just make sure that the content on the non-details pages
                        described what the site is all about.
                        • 9. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                          Level 7
                          On 03 Oct 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Osgood wrote:

                          > What Murray means by 'unmeasureable' is the keyword metatag is of so
                          > small importance theses days to search engines as for it to play any
                          > significant part in the ranking of your page............so just
                          > forget the keyword metatag and make sure the text on the pages in
                          > the rest of your site is well composed.
                          >
                          > As far as I see theres no point in using php to try and alternate
                          > the keyword metatag on your details page because the spider will
                          > only search the original details page. How can it search something
                          > which has not yet been generated until the correct details page has
                          > been call for? It can only search pages that EXIST in the site.

                          But the pages do exist. Consider this link:

                          <a href="products.php?prodID=1">Product 1</a>

                          Can you follow it using a browser? Sure. When you get there, what
                          will be on the page? If it's done right, information about Product 1.

                          Search engines are equally capable of following that link. So whether
                          the page is generated on-the-fly, or if it exists as 0s and 1s in
                          magnetic medium on a hard drive somewhere, IT EXISTS ON THE SITE.

                          To the OP: Ignore the keyword meta. But make an effort to get a (very
                          brief) description into the Title tag, and maybe a slightly longer one
                          into the description meta.

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                          • 10. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                            Level 7
                            Joe Makowiec wrote:
                            > On 03 Oct 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Osgood wrote:
                            >
                            >> What Murray means by 'unmeasureable' is the keyword metatag is of so
                            >> small importance theses days to search engines as for it to play any
                            >> significant part in the ranking of your page............so just
                            >> forget the keyword metatag and make sure the text on the pages in
                            >> the rest of your site is well composed.
                            >>
                            >> As far as I see theres no point in using php to try and alternate
                            >> the keyword metatag on your details page because the spider will
                            >> only search the original details page. How can it search something
                            >> which has not yet been generated until the correct details page has
                            >> been call for? It can only search pages that EXIST in the site.
                            >
                            > But the pages do exist. Consider this link:
                            >
                            > <a href="products.php?prodID=1">Product 1</a>
                            >
                            > Can you follow it using a browser? Sure. When you get there, what
                            > will be on the page? If it's done right, information about Product 1.
                            >
                            > Search engines are equally capable of following that link. So whether
                            > the page is generated on-the-fly, or if it exists as 0s and 1s in
                            > magnetic medium on a hard drive somewhere, IT EXISTS ON THE SITE.


                            Hummm........ interesting interesting.... doesn't the information have
                            to be parsed back to a browser to make it available?

                            I can definitely see where your coming from but I'm not totally
                            convinced a spider can get to this information.





                            • 11. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                              Level 7
                              If you have a series of thumbs each of which links to their corresponding
                              detail page, and that series is generated from a repeating region, then the
                              links exist in plain HTML on the page when it is reveived by the browser.

                              BUT - if you have a series of drop-down lists, and the combination of your
                              selections of those lists is aggregated into a single, dynamically written
                              link, then the link will only exist during run time, and will not be found
                              by the spiders.

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                              "Osgood" <notavailable@thisaddress.com> wrote in message
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                              > Joe Makowiec wrote:
                              >> On 03 Oct 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Osgood wrote:
                              >>
                              >>> What Murray means by 'unmeasureable' is the keyword metatag is of so
                              >>> small importance theses days to search engines as for it to play any
                              >>> significant part in the ranking of your page............so just
                              >>> forget the keyword metatag and make sure the text on the pages in
                              >>> the rest of your site is well composed.
                              >>>
                              >>> As far as I see theres no point in using php to try and alternate
                              >>> the keyword metatag on your details page because the spider will
                              >>> only search the original details page. How can it search something
                              >>> which has not yet been generated until the correct details page has
                              >>> been call for? It can only search pages that EXIST in the site.
                              >>
                              >> But the pages do exist. Consider this link:
                              >>
                              >> <a href="products.php?prodID=1">Product 1</a>
                              >>
                              >> Can you follow it using a browser? Sure. When you get there, what will
                              >> be on the page? If it's done right, information about Product 1.
                              >>
                              >> Search engines are equally capable of following that link. So whether
                              >> the page is generated on-the-fly, or if it exists as 0s and 1s in
                              >> magnetic medium on a hard drive somewhere, IT EXISTS ON THE SITE.
                              >
                              >
                              > Hummm........ interesting interesting.... doesn't the information have to
                              > be parsed back to a browser to make it available?
                              >
                              > I can definitely see where your coming from but I'm not totally convinced
                              > a spider can get to this information.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >


                              • 12. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                SyKeSnr1 Level 1
                                quote:

                                Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
                                If you have a series of thumbs each of which links to their corresponding
                                detail page, and that series is generated from a repeating region, then the
                                links exist in plain HTML on the page when it is reveived by the browser.

                                BUT - if you have a series of drop-down lists, and the combination of your
                                selections of those lists is aggregated into a single, dynamically written
                                link, then the link will only exist during run time, and will not be found
                                by the spiders.

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                                "Osgood" <notavailable@thisaddress.com> wrote in message
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                                > Joe Makowiec wrote:
                                >> On 03 Oct 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Osgood wrote:
                                >>
                                >>> What Murray means by 'unmeasureable' is the keyword metatag is of so
                                >>> small importance theses days to search engines as for it to play any
                                >>> significant part in the ranking of your page............so just
                                >>> forget the keyword metatag and make sure the text on the pages in
                                >>> the rest of your site is well composed.
                                >>>
                                >>> As far as I see theres no point in using php to try and alternate
                                >>> the keyword metatag on your details page because the spider will
                                >>> only search the original details page. How can it search something
                                >>> which has not yet been generated until the correct details page has
                                >>> been call for? It can only search pages that EXIST in the site.
                                >>
                                >> But the pages do exist. Consider this link:
                                >>
                                >> <a href="products.php?prodID=1">Product 1</a>
                                >>
                                >> Can you follow it using a browser? Sure. When you get there, what will
                                >> be on the page? If it's done right, information about Product 1.
                                >>
                                >> Search engines are equally capable of following that link. So whether
                                >> the page is generated on-the-fly, or if it exists as 0s and 1s in
                                >> magnetic medium on a hard drive somewhere, IT EXISTS ON THE SITE.
                                >
                                >
                                > Hummm........ interesting interesting.... doesn't the information have to
                                > be parsed back to a browser to make it available?
                                >
                                > I can definitely see where your coming from but I'm not totally convinced
                                > a spider can get to this information.
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >





                                could you tell me in more detail how to put up such a thing? Also, the only thing i whish to do is filetr out certain words and cap it of at 20 words. The keywords now already show up correctly on each page bij inserting variables from my mysql database in the metatag. So if capping of and filtering is possible by some php code then that would be very helpful as well...
                                • 13. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                  Level 7
                                  On 03 Oct 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Osgood wrote:

                                  > Hummm........ interesting interesting.... doesn't the information have
                                  > to be parsed back to a browser to make it available?
                                  >
                                  > I can definitely see where your coming from but I'm not totally
                                  > convinced a spider can get to this information.

                                  If a browser can get to it (sans javascript), then a bot can get to it.

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                                  • 14. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                    Level 7
                                    Joe Makowiec wrote:
                                    > On 03 Oct 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Osgood wrote:
                                    >
                                    >> Hummm........ interesting interesting.... doesn't the information have
                                    >> to be parsed back to a browser to make it available?
                                    >>
                                    >> I can definitely see where your coming from but I'm not totally
                                    >> convinced a spider can get to this information.
                                    >
                                    > If a browser can get to it (sans javascript), then a bot can get to it.
                                    >

                                    I'm still unconvinced that a spider can understand how to interpret a
                                    variable in the url link, retrieve information from a database and read it.


                                    I can see it can get this far:

                                    <a href="products.php</a>

                                    but I don't see it being able to understand this

                                    ?prodID=1">
                                    • 15. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                      Level 7
                                      On 03 Oct 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Osgood wrote:

                                      > I'm still unconvinced that a spider can understand how to interpret
                                      > a variable in the url link, retrieve information from a database and
                                      > read it.
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > I can see it can get this far:
                                      >
                                      > <a href="products.php</a>
                                      >
                                      > but I don't see it being able to understand this
                                      >
                                      > ?prodID=1">

                                      Here's a recent log entry (today, actually) showing Googlebot visiting
                                      a page drawn from a database:

                                      66.249.66.18 - - [03/Oct/2007:07:32:52 -0400] "GET /pictures.php?game=73 HTTP/1.1" 200 12818 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; + http://www.google.com/bot.html)"

                                      For the record: 66.249.66.18 Canonical name: crawl-66-249-66-18.googlebot.com

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                                      • 16. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                        Level 7
                                        Joe Makowiec wrote:
                                        > On 03 Oct 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Osgood wrote:
                                        >
                                        >> I'm still unconvinced that a spider can understand how to interpret
                                        >> a variable in the url link, retrieve information from a database and
                                        >> read it.
                                        >>
                                        >>
                                        >> I can see it can get this far:
                                        >>
                                        >> <a href="products.php</a>
                                        >>
                                        >> but I don't see it being able to understand this
                                        >>
                                        >> ?prodID=1">
                                        >
                                        > Here's a recent log entry (today, actually) showing Googlebot visiting
                                        > a page drawn from a database:
                                        >
                                        > 66.249.66.18 - - [03/Oct/2007:07:32:52 -0400] "GET /pictures.php?game=73 HTTP/1.1" 200 12818 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; + http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
                                        >
                                        > For the record: 66.249.66.18 Canonical name: crawl-66-249-66-18.googlebot.com
                                        >

                                        I've convinced myself now by doing a few searches.....I guess this
                                        wouldn't be No.2 in the ranking unless the spider was able to get to the
                                        information

                                        www.woolworths.co.uk/web/jsp/browse/index.jsp?cat=cat50004
                                        • 17. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                          Level 7
                                          Osgood wrote:

                                          > I've convinced myself now by doing a few searches.....I guess this
                                          > wouldn't be No.2 in the ranking unless the spider was able to get to the
                                          > information
                                          >
                                          > www.woolworths.co.uk/web/jsp/browse/index.jsp?cat=cat50004


                                          That should be 'spider wasn't' not 'was'
                                          • 18. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                            Level 7
                                            .oO(Osgood)

                                            >Joe Makowiec wrote:
                                            >>
                                            >> If a browser can get to it (sans javascript), then a bot can get to it.
                                            >
                                            >I'm still unconvinced that a spider can understand how to interpret a
                                            >variable in the url link, retrieve information from a database and read it.

                                            The spider doesn't have to interpret anything. It just has to follow a
                                            URL like any other user agent. And a URL is a URL, it absolutely doesn't
                                            matter if it contains a query string or not.

                                            >I can see it can get this far:
                                            >
                                            ><a href="products.php</a>
                                            >
                                            >but I don't see it being able to understand this
                                            >
                                            >?prodID=1">

                                            The _server_ has to understand this, not the client.

                                            Micha
                                            • 19. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                              Level 7
                                              On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:46:10 +0100, Osgood
                                              <notavailable@thisaddress.com> wrote:


                                              >I can see it can get this far:
                                              >
                                              ><a href="products.php</a>
                                              >
                                              >but I don't see it being able to understand this
                                              >
                                              >?prodID=1">


                                              common Os -

                                              the server does the work and sends it out to the browser as an html
                                              page ?????????????

                                              and if it is client side like Javascript - a software company the
                                              likes of Google etc can surely do that simple programming job ??

                                              --

                                              ~Malcolm N....
                                              ~
                                              • 20. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                                Level 7


                                                > the server does the work and sends it out to the browser as an html
                                                > page ?????????????

                                                productpage.php is a php script on the server.
                                                When the script is passed a variable such as
                                                productpage.php?item=45&color=red
                                                the script does what the php programming in it tells it to do when passed
                                                that information. It assembles the page and sends it out.
                                                In a shopping cart type thing, you can have ONE file on the server that
                                                handles the display of item details and use it to display the details for
                                                thousands of different products. Just change the variable that is passed to
                                                the script in the page.

                                                >
                                                > and if it is client side like Javascript - a software company the
                                                > likes of Google etc can surely do that simple programming job ??

                                                JavaScript??
                                                yes, they could. Although there would be thousands of ways a custom
                                                JavaScript could do something client side.

                                                But---- google has every reason to totally IGNORE client-side JavaScript. It
                                                can be used to mask/disguise/trick the viewer. And they do ignore it,
                                                AFAIK. it would make no sense for google's bots to execute JS.

                                                --
                                                Alan
                                                Adobe Community Expert, dreamweaver

                                                http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/



                                                • 21. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                                  Level 7
                                                  > Hummm........ interesting interesting.... doesn't the information have
                                                  > to be parsed back to a browser to make it available?
                                                  >
                                                  > I can definitely see where your coming from but I'm not totally
                                                  > convinced a spider can get to this information.

                                                  An example, search for gy9,5 in google, the 5th entry should for AC
                                                  Lighting Online Shop, a site I finished a couple of weeks ago. Google
                                                  has found the search term in the title which is dynamically created.

                                                  I am getting many hits from Google going directly to the dynamic product
                                                  page.

                                                  Steve
                                                  • 22. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                                    Level 7
                                                    Dooza wrote:
                                                    >> Hummm........ interesting interesting.... doesn't the information have
                                                    >> to be parsed back to a browser to make it available?
                                                    >>
                                                    >> I can definitely see where your coming from but I'm not totally
                                                    >> convinced a spider can get to this information.
                                                    >
                                                    > An example, search for gy9,5 in google, the 5th entry should for AC
                                                    > Lighting Online Shop, a site I finished a couple of weeks ago. Google
                                                    > has found the search term in the title which is dynamically created.
                                                    >
                                                    > I am getting many hits from Google going directly to the dynamic product
                                                    > page.
                                                    >
                                                    > Steve

                                                    I just finished reading the entire thread and found you have already
                                                    seen the light ;)

                                                    Steve
                                                    • 23. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                                      Level 7
                                                      Dooza wrote:

                                                      > I just finished reading the entire thread and found you have already
                                                      > seen the light ;)
                                                      >
                                                      > Steve


                                                      Yeah....I generally take a lot of convincing.
                                                      • 24. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                                        Level 7
                                                        Osgood wrote:
                                                        > Dooza wrote:
                                                        >
                                                        >> I just finished reading the entire thread and found you have already
                                                        >> seen the light ;)
                                                        >>
                                                        >> Steve
                                                        >
                                                        >
                                                        > Yeah....I generally take a lot of convincing.

                                                        I thought like you did until I started seeing referals in my stats going
                                                        to my dynamic pages. I should have realised before as I have found
                                                        search results for forum pages many times, and they are all dynamic.

                                                        Steve
                                                        • 25. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                                          Level 7
                                                          On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:00:38 -0400, Alan
                                                          <please_dont_mail_me@example.com> wrote:


                                                          >
                                                          >JavaScript??
                                                          >yes, they could. Although there would be thousands of ways a custom
                                                          >JavaScript could do something client side.
                                                          >
                                                          >But---- google has every reason to totally IGNORE client-side JavaScript. It
                                                          >can be used to mask/disguise/trick the viewer. And they do ignore it,
                                                          >AFAIK. it would make no sense for google's bots to execute JS.

                                                          Oh yes totally agree - they can choose to ignore it - or treat it with
                                                          contempt - as you say someone may be using JavaScript to deceive - and
                                                          so Google could choose to black list the site.

                                                          All I meant is Google can run the JS file if they choose to - who
                                                          knows if they really do.
                                                          --

                                                          ~Malcolm N....
                                                          ~
                                                          • 26. Re: Keyword metatag &lt;making it automatic&gt;
                                                            Level 7
                                                            On 04 Oct 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Malcolm N_ wrote:

                                                            > All I meant is Google can run the JS file if they choose to - who
                                                            > knows if they really do.

                                                            If you want to find out, all you have to do is look at server logs to see
                                                            if Googlebot requests external javascript (generally .js) files. To the
                                                            best of my knowledge, it doesn't.

                                                            --
                                                            Joe Makowiec
                                                            http://makowiec.net/
                                                            Email: http://makowiec.net/contact.php